Linux-Misc Digest #427, Volume #20               Mon, 31 May 99 04:13:25 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy (brian moore)
  YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  6954 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can Access 97 db be queried with UnixODBC? (Fezzzza)
  Re: Miro PCTV pro and kwintv (Jens Sorensen)
  IP env variable ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy (brian moore)
  Re: car mp3 player (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Installing Staroffice from SuSE 6.1 (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Cut and Paste between Windows (Jim Richardson)
  FDD Tape Drive--The Saga Continues (Adam J)
  Re: File system for NT and Linux ("SuperPete")
  hda timeouts? (Ken Williams)
  Re: netscape: fonts too small (Fred Kuipers)
  Re: Execute java .class file under 2.2.9? (Ken Williams)
  file does/doesn't exist - aka inode question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: netscape: fonts too small (Lucien)
  view windows help files ? (Joachim Paulini)
  Re: Procmail Question (Paul Anderson)
  Re: XWindows Server (David Watson)
  Re: Background Jobs ("Jeff Grossman")
  Re: Offline news (newbie alert) (Michael Perry)
  Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? ("Jeff 
Grossman")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy
Date: 31 May 1999 01:33:38 GMT

On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:58:42 -0700, 
 Clayton Lenderbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,,
> 
> Im wondering about anyones {pos,neg}ative experiences with the 
> following list of machines that I could buy:
> 
> packard bell synera model mu955, k62-333, (or mu850, cyrix mII-300)
> 
> acer aspire model 1878R k62-333 (or 3060R k62-350) (or 6070R pII-350)
> 
> ibm aptiva e5d (pII-400, 2xDVD)

I think you'll be better served if you avoid all three of the above and
buy a system from one of the usual Linux hardware vendors such as
Penguin Computing, VA Research or ASL.  Most of the Linux vendors (and
certainly the three above) use much better components than you'll find
from the typical mass-market PC.

A crappy motherboard can drag your whole system down, so can a crappy
disk drive or video card.  Part of the 'niche' that most of the Linux
hardware vendors are shooting for is users that want a good performing
system, and they use parts that make it possible.

> (notes)
> i want to triple-boot,linux/winnt/other. if win98 pre-exists, does
> it "fight" about linux/winnt coming onto the disk?

No, but every MS OS will try to wipe out any previous OS.  (Win98 will
try to remove NT, NT will try to remove 95, and both will try to remove
Linux...  Linux behaves and gets along fine with the other two.)

There are HOWTO's on how to install all three on a system, though.  The
easy part is that Linux goes last (since it won't muck with prior
configurations): the hard part is a sort of dance of death with the
other two to make them happy.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.os2,soc.culture.argentina
Subject: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  6954
Date: 31 May 1999 02:04:55 GMT


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fezzzza)
Subject: Re: Can Access 97 db be queried with UnixODBC?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:11:14 GMT

I can query a my Linux Sql server using PostgreSQL from access 97 or
VB6 with a windows ODBC is this the sort of thing you want to do ? 




On Sat, 29 May 1999 20:29:22 -0400, "Joseph P. Frazee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Can Access 97 db be queried with UnixODBC?
>
>Just wondering if anyone has tried this before I dig-in and start reading?
>
>I must eventually query an Access db.
>I must authenticate with Kerberos.
>
>I know I'm using two not very friendly-to-each other systems. I think
>querying in Unix might be easier and better than using Win Kerberos.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joseph P. Frazee
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>


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From: Jens Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Miro PCTV pro and kwintv
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:50:12 GMT

Ronald Loef wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I tried to install the bttv and used kwintv with my Miro PCTV.
>
> I do get static (snow), but while tuning nothing happens. When I reboot my
> computer after using Windoze (and TV) the channel is "locked" on the last
> viewed channel in Windoze. And it comes without any sound...
>
> What can I do to get the tuner part and the sound working??
>
> Thanks,
>   Ronald

Got the same problem. Please let me know if you solve it. Im out of ideas. I
got a WinPCI TV card.
Jens



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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IP env variable
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:59:47 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    I run RH 6.0 at home on a AMDk6-2.  I have the netcfg setup so it
will connect to my ISP during bootup.  Things work great.  I'd like to
have an environmental variable set (IPADDR ) with my dynamic IP address
as the value.  Anyone help me here?  I'm get not sure where to add a
line of code to grab it in all these network start-up scripts.   if-up,
perhaps?

Josh


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy
Date: 31 May 1999 03:44:58 GMT

On 31 May 1999 01:48:57 GMT, 
 Justin B Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> brian moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:58:42 -0700, 
> >  Clayton Lenderbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello All,,
> >> 
> >> Im wondering about anyones {pos,neg}ative experiences with the 
> >> following list of machines that I could buy:
> >> 
> >> packard bell synera model mu955, k62-333, (or mu850, cyrix mII-300)
> >> 
> >> acer aspire model 1878R k62-333 (or 3060R k62-350) (or 6070R pII-350)
> >> 
> >> ibm aptiva e5d (pII-400, 2xDVD)
> > 
> 
> I would stay as far a way from any machine made by Packard Bell or Acer! I
> don't know much about the IBM Aptive you mentioned. 

Or have plenty of fire insurance. :)

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: 31 May 1999 03:11:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 25 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: if you know what Voltage and current requirements you have, let me know
>: and I'll paw through their app-notes at work and see if they have a simple
>: to build solution. 
>:  (I assume you need +12V, +5V and -5V, but the current draw makes a diff.
>: you could check the ratings of whatever was the original powersupply. 
>: Absent that avenue, an educate guess :)
>
>Chances are that you can ditch the -5V and the -12V, they are
>virtually unused nowadays.  A typical 200W power supply has the
>following maximum current draws.  The voltage of the power supply
>should not drift more than +-5%.
>
>       -5v     .3A
>       -12v    .3A
>       +12v     8A
>       +5v      20A    
>

For a car mp3 player, with presumably limited cards. (no modem, etc)
it would seem that a 200w supply would be way overkill.
 If you used a laptop style hd, then power consumption could go down
even further.
 The +12 and +5 would be simple enough from the car's power system, but 
shielded and with back emf diode on the input side. (there is a large 
voltage spike that occurs after the ignition is shut off. Which can
damage componants.)
 The -5v and -12v would be doable with one of maxims chips, I think the
MAX635 or MAX738 would work. They need a small number of discretes to
set upp the charge pump, but are simple to build with. 
`
-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Installing Staroffice from SuSE 6.1
Date: 31 May 1999 03:11:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 29 May 1999 12:38:10 +0800, 
 For Sale, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>Hi,
>
>After we installed SuSE 6.1 and StarOffice OEM that is bundled with it,
>when we run sosetup, it ask for some sort of #.  Where do we get it from?
>
>Thanks
>
>


possibly it is the number from the front of the manual registration card.
-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste between Windows
Date: 31 May 1999 03:11:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 29 May 1999 12:44:01 +0800, 
 For Sale, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>Hi,
>
>I have installed SuSE 6.1, using XBF driver for the i740.  I have a
>2 button microsoft PS/2 mouse.  I can't seem to do cut and paste
>between windows when running KDE.  Once I highlighted test in one
>window, I can press both keys to paste the test in another.  What is
>my alternative?
>
>THanks.
>
>
>

Make sure that you have 3 button emulation enabled. Either add it manually
to the xf86config file. Or use xmsetup (I think that's it) to do it via the
X interface. It sounds like you have no 3button emulation. 
-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam J)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: FDD Tape Drive--The Saga Continues
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:31:45 -0500

Again, thanks for the help.  For all who haven't followed, I have just
installed a colorado 250MB floppy controller tape drive on a P166 running
redhat 5.0.  I have tried to back up to it using tar, and, having gotten
the right switches in the command line, I get this error:

>tar (grandchild): Cannot open archive /dev/ftape: Input/output error
>tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>Broken pipe

I thought that it might be bvecause the tape needs formatting, but using
mkfs yields the same error.  Advice?

Thanks,


Adam J

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From: "SuperPete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: File system for NT and Linux
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:09:32 -0500

How about HPFS?  NT 4 has "undocumented" support for HPFS and Linux supports
it well.

Linux NTFS read-only support works very well, read-write is scary, and it is
definitely there.  To enable it you will have to enable "prompt for
experimental" whatever at the beginning and turn on NTFS read only to be
prompted for RW.

-Pete

Wolfgang Ganzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Hello,
>
>I want to use WinNT 4.0 and Linux to share the same data partition on a
>disk. (size 9GB). The problem is that Linux does not support NTFS in the
>"normal" distribution of the Kernel 2.036. On the other side WinNT does
>not recognize ext2fs from Linux.
>For FAT32 a special driver for WinNT is needed. Also the file attributes
>rwx from Linux ar not supported on the FAT32. This is a problem when
>running shell scripts from FAT32 on Linux.
>
>What would be the best solution to share the large data?
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thank You!
>
>Sincerely
>
>Wolfgang
>
>
>P.S.:Since sometimes I have problems accessing the news-server I would
>be thankfull for a direct e-mail to me.
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: hda timeouts?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:16:46 GMT

I'm trying to tar all the data on my 4 gig SCSI-3 drive to my 4 gig IDE drive 
which is much slower, and I sometimes get the following.

May 30 23:34:02 central kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA 
May 30 23:34:02 central kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete DataRequest } 
May 30 23:34:02 central kernel: hda: DMA disabled 
May 30 23:34:02 central kernel: ide0: reset: success 

Any way to stop it?  Too much data for the ide to handle from the SCSI at one 
time?  It always recovers and keeps going, but its annoying.

THanks.

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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape: fonts too small
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:22:27 GMT

This is not isolated to your monitor... I believe this is prevalent and I have
seen messages on this before.  I saw a solution some time back (copied below)
that I tried, but it didn't work for me (it _may_ for you).  Does anybody have
any other suggestions???

FK

_Add_ this to your .Xdefaults file.
============8<============================

!file:  .Xdefaults
!
! Netscape Resources
!
! These are the fonts used in the outline lists used in Mail, News,
Bookmarks
! and AddressBook windows.
!
Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:\
-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*,\
-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*=BOLD,\
-*-helvetica-medium-o-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*=ITALIC
!
! This changes the font on all the Text/TextField widgets
!
Netscape*XmTextField.fontList:\
-adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*
Netscape*XmText.fontList:\
-adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*

Netscape*dontSaveGeometryPref:  True
Netscape*ignoreGeometryPref:    True
Netscape*defaultCharset:        iso-8859-1

Netscape*documentFonts.xResolution*iso8859-1:   100
Netscape*documentFonts.yResolution*iso8859-1:   100
Netscape*scrollerX*VertScrollBar.width: 20

===================8<=============================================


Neil Zanella wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am using high resolution Sony monitors that are set up for flicker
>
> free performance at a resolution of 1280x1024.
>
> Since the monitors are only 15" monitors, netscape fonts appear too small,
>
> even when I change the font sizes in the preferences to 24.0 .
>
> The version of netscape is the one that came with Red Hat 5.1 (probably 4.5)
>
> It would be nice if you can select a font size of for example 40.0 or 50.0.
>
> These sizes might look ridiculous on some monitors but not on a 15"
>
> monitor doing 1280x1024.
>
> Unfortunately, as is the case with many Linux users, I am not the system
>
> administrator and thus cannot change the resolution that these monitors
>
> are using (sigh).
>
> Thanks to all Netscape developers,
>
> Neil Zanella
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: Execute java .class file under 2.2.9?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:11:06 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ken Williams wrote:
>> 
>> I keep getting
>> bash: ./HelloWorld.class: cannot execute binary file
>> 
>> I have not compiled in Kernel support for JAVA binaries (obsolete), but I did
>> compile in Kernel support for MISC binaries.
>> 
>> I tried it with JAVA binaries, but it still doesnt work.
>> 
>> glibc 2.1, kernel 2.2.9, jdk117 v3.
>> 
>> Any idea?
>
>If you're running jdk, type
>$ java HelloWorld
>Make sure java is in your path and that your $CLASSPATH includes "."

Yes, that works fine.  But thats not the point.  THe kernel has support to 
execute java class files like they're execuable, so I don't have to type 
"java".  I want that to happen - which doesn't work under 2.2.9 with jdk 117 
v3.

Anyone?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: file does/doesn't exist - aka inode question
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:35:19 GMT

i'm a linux newbie with a weird problem.  here's my situation:

when I installed linux (redhat 5.2) i did so without knowing that i
had a bad L2 cache.  After installing, i got a lot of signal 11's, and
eventually someone on a newsgroup suggested the cache (rather than the
RAM and overclocked CPU that everyone else mentioned), and that was
the problem - so i disabled it, and stopped getting the signal 11's.
However, before disabling the cache, i had a few major crashes where
the hard disk had inode problems that had to be resolved.  fsck saved
these inodes in tmp directories, and i proceeded to delete them,
assuming they didnt matter since they were no longer pointing to
whatever they were supposed to point to.  since then (and maybe before
then, i'm not sure) i've had a really strange problem with all sorts
of files.  i would copy the file to the hard drive, and it would show
up properly with less and ls, but executables returned an error
message "bash: <filename>: No such file or directory" and a rar'ed
file said there were no files to decompress (while on my win95 box the
same rar file decompressed fine).  to check if the executables really
existed, i tried to make a directory of the same name and got the
error message "mkdir: cannot make directory `<filename>': File
exists".  So, the file probably exists, but it wont execute (but the
executable flag IS set, i made sure of that).  I've tried all sorts of
path-options, specifying the whole path from the root, putting the
directory in the path env variable, and just typing "./filename" from
the directory the file is in, with no luck.  I also tried it with a
statically linked binary, so i know that it's not a problem with my
library files.  Today I came up with the theory that maybe all those
inodes i deleted are causing the problem.  could this be the case?
(what exactly IS an inode?)  and would i have to reformat to fix it,
or is there a utility i could run to rebuild the inode tree?

Thanks a lot for reading this huge message and for any help you could
give!
John

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From: Lucien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape: fonts too small
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:35:27 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Neil Zanella wrote:
...
> netscape fonts appear too small,
> 
> even when I change the font sizes in the preferences to 24.0 .
> 
> The version of netscape is the one that came with Red Hat 5.1 (probably 4.5)
...

I had simular problems after installing a TT-font server.

What helped me out was de/unselecting the feature 'Allow Scaling'
in Edit|Preferences|Appearance|Fonts 

ciao,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim Paulini)
Subject: view windows help files ?
Date: 30 May 1999 17:58:06 GMT

Hi!

I'm looking for a way to view windows help files under Linux.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Joachim



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Procmail Question
Date: 30 May 1999 14:24:22 -0400

"Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>But the .forward is what is calling procmail.  How would procmail do its
>stuff without the command in the .forward file?  Do I not need to .forward
>file to execute procmail?  Will it do it automatically?
>
You have to configure sendmail to use procmail for local delivery.


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From: David Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: XWindows Server
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:28:51 +1200

Jeff Grossman wrote:

> I almost got it running.  I got the log-in screen, but I enter my log-in but
> nothing happens.  It displays the login screen again after a few seconds.
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> Charles Mulks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7iqdi3$ojg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >I want to run Xwindows from a telnet session under Windows98.  What is a
> > >good Xwindows Server?  And how do I make it work?  I am running Redhat
> 6.0.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Jeff
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > take a look at http://www.msu.edu/~mulksc/LinuxHints
> >

There is problem with gdm in the RedHat 6.0 release which stops xdcmp working
properly.

I changed to xdm and no problem.

As root :

cd /etc/X11
rm prefdm
ln -s ../../usr/X11R6/bin/xdm prefdm
/sbin/telinit 3 ; /sbin/telinit 5

cheers
Dave


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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Background Jobs
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:28:49 -0700

Nope, didn't work.  I don't have a man entry for Screen.  Can anybody help
me with this new problem.

Thanks,
Jeff

--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > If I telnet into my Linux box and start a job, and then put it in the
> > background, and log out, when I re-login, how can I get to that job, if
it
> > is still running?  When I type in jobs, it does not do anything.  The
only
> > thing I can figure out is because it is a different session.
>
> yup.  use the 'screen' program instead - man screen should explain it.
>
> --
> Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net  | PGP key
available
> paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5        i586 | at public
servers
> It's all magic.  :-)
>              -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Offline news (newbie alert)
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 05:21:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 30 May 1999 22:46:25 +0100, Richard Brisbourne 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Apologies if this is the wrong group- I've only been at this a month or
>so.
>
>Installed Red Hat 5.2, got ppp working, ploughed my way through the
>intricacies of sendmail and got some apps in.  Decided the last hurdle
>before making Linux the default in LILO was news.
>
>I'm posting from the UK where we pay for local phone calls, so I need to
>read news offline.
>
>I read a few support pages and HOWTOs and downloaded INN 2.2 plus suck,
>as rpms, the idea being to download news from my isp and then read
>locally (I still feel a bit of trepidation about compiling).
>
>The good news:
>I can dial into my isp, and download all the articles I want to my own
>computer.  I can use the -bl option to get suck to call lmove to
>distribute the articles into the directory structure that got set up
>when I added newsgroups to the "active" file.  I now have a nice
>collection of articles, one per file, scattered through that directory
>structure, which I guess is exactly what is supposed to happen so far.
>
>The bad news:
>Although I can wander around the directory structure reading the
>articles one at a time, using any handy text editor, I can't get a
>newsreader to work. (I've tried slrn and trn).
>
>I've set the NNTPSERVER variable to localhost, and have localhost set up
>as a peer in incoming.conf as per the instructions.  And it's also in
>the hosts file, as per instructions.
>
>Trn will happily let me subscribe to anything in inn's active file, but
>insists there are no unread articles.
>
>I can't help thinking I'm missing something stupid, but I've now spent a
>whole wet Sunday on this one, and my brain hurts.  Any ideas anyone?
>
>-- 
>Richard Brisbourne

Howdy!!

I think you should check out leafnode.  I compiled from sources and it does
what you want.  Let me kinda describe what it does.  I use leafnode to
connect to a news server from my laptop and once a day via a crontab it runs
and downloads news to my box.  I can then read, post, respond, whatever I
want whether connected or not.  This is nice because I travel with the
laptop and I can run a fetch to get the latest news and read it on the plane
or wherever.  The wonderful thing about leafnode is that its easy to setup
and use.  You mainly configure, install, make install, edit a config file,
edit a /etc/inetd.conf file to add a line, edit your /etc/hosts.deny, change
the nntpserver variable, run fetch once, subscribe to whatever groups you
want, then run fetch again. I expire articles once a week that meet a
predetermined date length.  I read the news with slrn, netscape, tin, knews,
or whatever...

Does this sound like what you want?  I got it running in 10 minutes.  You
can find it by searching for leafnode at any search site or by visiting
www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml.

Take care.

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:24:03 -0700

Okay, thanks.  I downloaded the Windows side, but I guess I need to go get
the Linux side and load it up.

Thanks,
Jeff

--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Ted Staberow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Jeff,
>
>     You can use VNC or an X server for Windows.  Check out download.com
for
> some free / shareware X servers for Windows.  The X server on your Linux
box
> will not help you here because the server must run on the machine where
the
> application is to appear.  The app (client) runs remotely but the server
runs
> locally.  This seems a bit backwards but it is really not.  Consider that
your
> first network interface is localhost and the client/server relationship
will
> make more sense.  With VNC you will need the Linux and Windows versions.
VNC
> is a good choice for what you intend to do.
>
>
> --
> Ted Staberow
> Prairie Networking, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Grossman wrote:
>
> > I just downloaded this version.  I want to be able to run my X sessions
from
> > my Linux box to my Win98 box.  What do I need?  Can I just use the
built-in
> > Xfree that is part of Redhat for the Linux side, and use this VNC
program
> > for the Win98 side?  And if so, how would I go about setting that up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
> > Ursa_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>



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