Linux-Misc Digest #437, Volume #20 Mon, 31 May 99 18:13:14 EDT
Contents:
cdrecord error (RLopez6836)
Re: netscape: fonts too small (Ed Young)
Re: How do I compile ncurses? (Michael Powe)
Linux as a Voice Mail System ("Austin Wilson")
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Martin Dieringer)
Re: XWindows Server ("Jeff Grossman")
Re: word processing, what to use? (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: More questions ("theoddone33")
Re: Does this OS exist? (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Linux: now or never (Tom Christiansen)
Re: You can earn $50,000 40686 (Why?)
Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested (Chris Hedley)
Re: word processing, what to use? (Tom Christiansen)
Re: Procmail (Michael Powe)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RLopez6836)
Subject: cdrecord error
Date: 31 May 1999 17:19:41 GMT
I have a memorex 1622 cdrw. I am trying to use cdrecord but I get errors. When
I try to burn a disc I get the error "function not implemented, shmget failed".
I think this is a system call failing. What could be the problem? I know my rw
is scsibus0, target 1, lun 0, and some commands work like scanbus. Also, when I
run xcdroast I am able to copy pure data cds directly to cdr with quick copy
but nothing else works (same error message).
Thanks,
-Mark
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape: fonts too small
Date: 31 May 1999 17:19:24 GMT
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am using high resolution Sony monitors that are set up for flicker
>
> free performance at a resolution of 1280x1024.
>
> Since the monitors are only 15" monitors, netscape fonts appear too small,
>
> even when I change the font sizes in the preferences to 24.0 .
>
> The version of netscape is the one that came with Red Hat 5.1 (probably 4.5)
>
> It would be nice if you can select a font size of for example 40.0 or 50.0.
>
> These sizes might look ridiculous on some monitors but not on a 15"
>
> monitor doing 1280x1024.
>
> Unfortunately, as is the case with many Linux users, I am not the system
>
> administrator and thus cannot change the resolution that these monitors
>
> are using (sigh).
You can manipulate the text size on netscape's user interface by adding the
following line to .Xdefaults in your home directory:
netscape-communicator*fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*--14-100-*
use xlsfonts to pick out a "real" font (replace 14 and 100 to suit yourself). I
actually had to go smaller than the default.
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Subject: Re: How do I compile ncurses?
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 13:33:07 -0700
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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Fanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> Hi, I'm new at this and have got a question.
Chris> How do I compile ncurses?
You may find useful information here:
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
mp
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Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: "Austin Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux as a Voice Mail System
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 06:39:20 +1000
Hi
Is it possible to use Linux as a voice mail system?
What I would like to do is use a Linux box to answer a phone line and take
voice mail messages for a number of people. It must then send a message to
the particular person's Windows box, notifying them that they have a
message. Then the person must then be able to listen to the message on
their Windows box.
Does a system like this exist?
Regards
Austin
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From: Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 31 May 1999 22:08:19 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Dieringer
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > > Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > > > please someone send me or post /usr/include/stdio.h here.
> >> > > > I don't have access to a linux system
> >> > > I'd be completely satisfied with the definition of FILE
> >> > The datatype and purpose of '_cnt' would serve the purpose.
> >> > The linux version does NOT matter at all.
> >> Where can I download it? Is there a source tree somewhere?
> >no, linux isn't open source. they won't show you stdio.h -
>
> You seem to be engaged in a long conversation with yourself here, and
> tha lack of knowledge show. Why don;t you go looking-- like on the net--
> for linux source. eg www.kernel.org
oh yes thank you! I forgot that linux is really THE kernel and
probably the only one in the world...?
anbody has it untarred? I just need about 20 lines of code, not
a bunch of 10MB
martin
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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: XWindows Server
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:24:23 -0700
I could not get the MicroImages one to work for me. How did you get it to
work?
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Frank Waarsenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> MicroImages offer a free X-server. Not very flashy, but working fine for
me.
> Have a look at http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/mix.cgi
>
> Frank
>
>
> Jim Orfanakos wrote:
>
> > There is a shareware product called X-Win32. It works great. The only
> > limitation is that only one session per sub-net can run at a time, and
only
> > for two hours at a time. Once you pay, the limitations are lifted.
> >
> > Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I want to run Xwindows from a telnet session under Windows98. What is
a
> > > good Xwindows Server? And how do I make it work? I am running Redhat
> > 6.0.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: word processing, what to use?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:52:12 GMT
In our last episode (Sat, 29 May 1999 19:42:32 GMT),
the artist formerly known as David Frye said:
I relly hate to get into a terminology debate, but:
>vi and emacs are both excellent _word processors_. WordPerfect, MS Word,
>etc are not word processors, but desktop publishing tools(and very weak at
>that).
Vi and emacs are text editors. WordPerfect and MS Word are word
processors. Groff, TeX and Interleaf are desktop publishing tools.
>A word processor processes _words_. Words are _text_.
Words aren't text, though they are often represented as such. However,
text is most definitely not words.
A text editor edits text, generally ASCII text. Text includes but is
hardly limited to the following kinds of documents:
email messages
usenet postings
generic formatted text documents
marked up text documents (e.g. HTML, roff, LaTeX)
program source code (e.g. C, Jacva, Perl, sh scripts)
configuration files (e.g. .bashrc, .exrc, sendmail.conf, hosts)
ASCII art
I would guess that only a very small percentage of overall text editor use
involves the creation of documents which will ever be printed. Probably a
majority of documents created with text editors are meant to be read by
computer programs, not humans.
A good text editor will provide effective and powerful ways to manipulate
text (entering, changing, deleting, copying and transforming arbitrary
sections of text). A text editor will generally only work with files in
plain text format. A text editor allows the user to directly edit the
actual contents of a file, not a visual representation of a more complex
underlying structure.
A word processor is designed principally to create documents for printing
and being read in printed form. As such, they are generally designed to
facilitate the use of things like paragraph indentation and alignment, line
spacing, page numbering, spell checking, fonts, footnotes, layouts and so
forth. Generally, word processors have extremely poor text manipulation
features as compared with good text editors. In fact, it is usually more
efficient to enter the textual content of a large document in a text editor
and import it into a word processor for formatting than it is to enter the
text directly into the word processor itself.
Word processors will typically work with a document format that is not
human-understandable and which contains many formatting codes that aren't
seen by the user. Compare this to something like HTML, which does
essentially the same thing, except that users who edit the HTML source
using a text editor will see and be able to modify the formatting codes
directly instead of modifying a graphical or textual representation of the
source text with the formatting codes applied. It would be difficult to
edit an MS Word document with a text editor because it uses so many
nonprinting codes and is not meant to be understood by humans.
>A Desktop Publishing program processess words, graphics, fonts, and
>provides layout capabilities often found in advanced Page Layout programs.
When word processing and desktop publishing both began, there was a world
of difference between the two. Word processors were generally designed to
output documents on line or dot matrix printers, and lacked many advanced
formatting features. However, over time, word processors have come to
include many of the features of a desktop publishing system. But they are
still a long way from being real desktop publishing software. I don't know
of anyone who would actually try to prepare a publication-quality document
destined to be printed and bound using MS Word or Word Perfect! They are
just not up to the task. A desktop publishing system will allow a document
to be structured into chapters, sections, subsections and so forth. Each
paragraph, heading, subheading, blockquote and so forth will be tagged as
an individual element. There should be no inline presentational formatting
-- that should be taken care of by stylesheets which are external to the
document, and which dictate the formatting, flow and other rules for
different elements in the document (e.g. anything marked as a chapter
heading will begin on the next available righthand page, will be underlined
and printed in 18pt bold Times Roman). Word processors like Word and
WordPerfect for Windows or Linux provide some of this functionality, but in
not so nearly a sophisticated way as a proper desktop publishing system,
and generally speaking, people do not use them (or know how or even know
these features exist), instead using these kinds of tools to create
formatting inline, generate hard page breaks, and do other things that are
huge publishing no-nos. Word processors are generally more appropriate for
writing business letters, newsletters of small organizations, undergraduate
papers and other small documents that don't have a large complex structure
and which probably won't be released in several editions.
>If you prefer a Desktop Publishing program, go with StarOffice, or
>WordPerfect.
I'll use groff, thanks very much. (For an example of a book that was
typeset using troff and probably edited using vi, see "Learning the vi
editor" by Linda Lamb, published by O'Reilly and Associates.)
>If you prefer something in between, go with Lyx or Klyx.
LyX, IIRC, generates LaTeX source, which is really a very good markup
language for publishing (for an example of a book produced in LaTeX, see
"The Art of Computer Programming", v. 1-3 by Donald E. Knuth, published by
Addison Wesley.)
>If you prefere a _word processor_, go with either vi or emacs.
I never do prefer word processors, but I use vi to edit a lot of email,
usenet postings, source code, config files, man pages, HTML documents and
other things I could never do effectively if at all with a word processor.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:49:37 -0700
Besides putting as "rvplayer %"? I don't see rvplayerplugin.so anywhere.
I use RH5.2+NC4.08. Anyway, I have /usr/lib/netscape/plugin as empty
subdirectory while /usr/lib/netscape/java/classes has couple of files. Are
you sure you've tried this, not using yourWin95+NC4.6?
Mircea wrote:
> To use the RP as plugin, you must put the rvplayerplugin.so and the java
> classes in your $HOME/.netscape/plugins directory, not in
> /usr/local/netscape/plugins.
>
> MST
>
> Michael Powe wrote:
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Is it possible to use RealPlayer for a plugin in Netscrape in linux?
> > I tried to follow the instructions for setting it up but they are not
> > accurate, as they seem to be written for an earlier version of NS.
> > However, I did put the class files & the .so file in the "plugins"
> > directory as the directions indicate.
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From: "theoddone33" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More questions
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:59:01 -0500
Great, thanks. I figured out why squake wouldn't run. I had to type
"./squake" to get anything to run. A major annoyance, but I'll deal with it
until I figure out how to get the current dir in the path.
--
theoddone33
"Brevity is the soul of wit"
AGQ2 Configs Page:
http://www.quakefiles.com/agq2configs/
My homepage:
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/2541/
To email, descramble the pig latin
Robert Heller wrote in message <7issme$db0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> "theoddone33" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Sun, 30 May 1999 20:13:17 -0500, wrote :
>
>"> Can anyone tell me how to list the files that are included in an rpm? I
>"> didn't notice it in the man page. I just installed the Voodoo 2 drivers
>"> rpm, and I'm trying to get the module to work, but I've got to solve
some
>"> issues before I get everything all working. Specifically, it doesn't
detect
>"> ncurses, so I can't do a "make menuconfig" to compile the kernel. Also,
is
>"> there any way to get squake to run on a glibc system?
>
>Under 'QUERY OPTIONS':
>
> -p <package_file>
> Query an (uninstalled) package <package_file>. The
> <package_file> may be specified as an ftp style
> URL, in which case the package header will be down-
> loaded and queried. See FTP OPTIONS for information
> on RPM's built in ftp support.
>and
>
> -l List files in package.
>
>So:
>
> rpm -qlp foo.rpm
>
>for an uninstalled rpm and
>
> rpm -ql packagename
>
>for an installed rpm
>
>
>">
>"> --
>"> theoddone33
>"> "Brevity is the soul of wit"
>"> AGQ2 Configs Page:
>"> http://www.quakefiles.com/agq2configs/
>"> My homepage:
>"> http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/2541/
>"> To email, descramble the pig latin
>">
>">
>">
>">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
> \/
>Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Does this OS exist?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:52:10 GMT
In our last episode (30 May 1999 03:29:31 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Bill Unruh said:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>]> Didn't know where to post this question...
>]> Does there exist an OS with these characteristics?
>]> - completely 32-bit
>]> - runs in protected mode
>]> - single user
>]> - singletasking
>]> - single processor
>]> - command line interface
>]> The closest that fits the above are DOS (but not 32-bit/protected mode)
>]> and Minix (but not singletasking or single user). Any others I have
>]> missed?
>
>How aout Linux? You do not have to run multiple programs.
I think you pretty much do. I'm the only person logged on right now, and
I'm not doing anything other than composing a news article, and yet:
ps ax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:02 init [2]
2 ? SW 0:00 (kflushd)
3 ? SW< 0:00 (kswapd)
12 ? S 0:03 update
95 ? S 0:00 /sbin/syslogd
97 ? S 0:00 /sbin/klogd
104 ? S 0:00 /sbin/kerneld
110 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
114 S0 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 -t ms -l "a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\32
138 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
149 5 S 0:00 (getty)
150 6 S 0:00 (getty)
867 4 S 0:00 (getty)
3011 2 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3012 3 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
5620 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
108 ? S 0:00 (portmap)
135 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
1570 ? S 0:00 /usr/local/wp8/shbin10/wpexc
2079 1 S 0:00 -bash
21043 1 S 0:00 slrn --spool
21044 1 S 0:00 vi -c so ~/.vimrc-slrn /home/william/.followup
21051 1 S 0:00 /bin/bash -c (ps ax) >/tmp/voa21044 2>&1
21052 1 R 0:00 ps ax
There are a lot of live processes, many of which would be running even if
nobody was logged in.
I can only assume that the reason one might explicitly want a system
without multitasking capability is to eliminate the performance hit caused
by scheduling and context switching. Of course, I'm not sure why you would
want a single tasking, single user OS that runs in protected mode -- that
doesn't really make any sense to me. Unless I'm missing something
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux: now or never
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 31 May 1999 15:03:28 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier) writes:
:I really hope he was right and that, as an experienced Linux user,
:you'll put some energy in making Linux more "user comprehensible" NOW.
Linux was not created for the non-techy end-user. In fact, not only is
that user largely irrelevant to Linux development, the more you take that
user into account, the more you risk compromising your other goals --
unless you are exceedingly and uncommonly careful.
Windows was designed to keep the idiots away from Unix so we could hack
in peace. Let's not break that.
--tom
--
X-Windows: Don't get frustrated without it.
--Jamie Zawinski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Why?)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.tcl,comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: You can earn $50,000 40686
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday, 31 May 1999 03:38:24 -0600, "MONEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> THE PROGRAM
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
> INCREDIBLE $0 to $50,000 in 90 days!!!
>
>Dear Friend,
>
>You can earn $50,000 or more in next the 90 days sending e-mail. Seem
>impossible? Read on for details.>>
And you, Mr. Big Money maker, are spamming.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Hedley)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested
Date: 31 May 1999 21:09:30 GMT
In article <7irqfh$1e3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Hedley) writes:
> In article <928022076.21358@localhost>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> more /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates
>
> Ta, I'll take a look at that and give feedback after I've played around
> with it.
I've compiled that in and it's definitely made a difference, which has
narrowed the gap to the point where any discernible difference in
performance is now in the realms of user-perception, so if I want to
take this any further I'll have to run proper timing to get any
meaningful results.
The concise version of that overly long sentance is "thanks, it worked!"
Chris.
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: word processing, what to use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 31 May 1999 15:12:57 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) writes:
:I don't know of anyone who would actually try to prepare a
:publication-quality document destined to be printed and bound using MS
:Word or Word Perfect! They are just not up to the task.
Funny you should mention that. Just the other day some folks went
completely incredulous on me they challenged me on my completely honest
statement that I've never used anything from micro~1 in my life.
They said, "So, how do you write your books?" To which I answered,
"In vi and troff, of course." They went nearly catatonic with disbelief.
--tom
--
Life is an RPG, run by an idiot,
Full of badly designed mechanics,
Signifying nothing.
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Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Procmail
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 14:16:04 -0700
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[posted and mailed]
>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jeff> Hello, I am trying to set-up Procmail on a Redhat 6.0 system
Jeff> to filter out my incoming mail. Here is a copy of my
Jeff> .procmailrc file, but it does not seem to work. And, I just
Jeff> noticed in my sendmail log file, it keeps saying "suspicious
Jeff> rc file /home/jeff/.procmailrc". Could anybody shed some
Jeff> light on this problem?
VERBOSE=off
MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail/jeff
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log
:0:
* ^Subject:.*linux
Mailing_Lists
Your MAILDIR setting is wrong. Read the manpage. It's recommended
that you set VERBOSE on so you can see the messages in your log file.
MAILDIR should be the directory in which procmail looks for the mail
folders into which it will sort the mail.
The man pages for procmail, procmailrc and procmailex are completely
useful. Also, for serious pursuit of the procmail expertise, there is
a mailing list. Subscribe at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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