Linux-Misc Digest #871, Volume #20 Thu, 1 Jul 99 00:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux? (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: Upgrading to RH6.0 (Adrian Hands)
Corrupted swap partition ?? (Pete Rossi)
FTP using ncftp ("Robert J. Schweikert")
Modem speed ("Robert J. Schweikert")
Re: Oops. Locked out :( (Carl Fink)
Re: An "ls" question (Carl Fink)
Re: How to make numlock key stay on (Michel Catudal)
freeze with blue screen (Janet)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Geoff Winans)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Ashley W Campbell)
Upgrading to RH6.0 ("Robert J. Schweikert")
Re: login question (Magnus Ahltorp)
Re: Somethin Dumb I did. (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Re: Need Iomega Ditto 3200 (3.2G) Tape Drive info (James Moe)
Re: Backspace in Netscape 4.6 (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Setting up a mail server on RH 6.0 (Adrian Hands)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux?
Date: 1 Jul 1999 02:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michel Catudal allegedly wrote:
>David Fox wrote:
>>
>> According to listening tests at
>> http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/summary/index.htm the SB Live has
>> only mediocre fidelity. Certainly not the best.
>>
>
>Their emulation of SB16 is what sucks.
>If ran under winblows it works great and sound good.
Check the site. They DID run it under windows, the performance was still
disappointing...and the digital I/O didn't work very well.
>
>My friend has been unable to get it to work under Linux so to
>say that it is a good choice would be a poor judgment call.
Well...there are drivers, and people have gotten them to work...but it
still would be on my list of recommended cards.
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself
the difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts
that are not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading to RH6.0
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:14:57 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Robert J. Schweikert" wrote:
>
> I downloaded all the files from the ftp.redhat.com/redhat/updates/6.0/i386 directory,
>
> the question is are these the files to upgrade from RH5.1 to 6.0?
>
> Do I just simply install the downloaded RPMS?
>
> What can I expect as far as things breaking and do I have to make any changes to
>LILO?
>
> Anyone have any ideas, insight into this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, no.
The "updates" directory contains .rpms to be applied to RH6.0 - stuff
that was added AFTER the CDs were made.
If you want to upgrade to RH6.0 for cheap, the easiest thing would be to
get the cd from linuxmall.com or cheapbytes.com (about $ 2).
You can download the whole thing from the web, but it's a big download.
After you upgrade, you can use the updates/6.0/i386/*.rpm files you just
downloaded to get RH6.0 up-to-date.
If you DO upgrade to RH6.0...the only hitches I ran into are:
1. ipfwadm is now ipchains (only applicable if you're using your linux
box to firewall your LAN to the internet.)
2. samba thinks RH5.0 is sysv instead of bsd, so you have to un-comment
the bsd line in /etc/smb.conf (only applicable if you're using samba).
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Subject: Corrupted swap partition ??
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Rossi)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 03:06:08 GMT
Is it possible for a Linux swap partition to become corrupted? If it did,
would it become "UN corrupted" or "fix itself" following a reboot?
Consider this possibility...
System is running and suffers a hard power failure.
During the reboot, it is smart enough to see that the regular partitions
were not cleanly unmounted so it runs 'fsck' and... hopefully all is OK.
But... what if the swap partition was being written to when the power
failed? Could it become corrupted? During the reboot, there is no
indication that the validity of the swap area is checked. Would the
reboot fix any problems?
All of this comes from a system that has been acting a bit "funny" ever
since a hard power failure a few weeks ago. System is basically running
OK but some commands/programs are now getting Segmentation Faults at
random times. It all started after the power went out. 'fsck' did not
detect any problems with the other partitions. Memory tests are not
detecting any errors. Trying to figure out where to go from here...
---
Pete Rossi - WA3NNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP using ncftp
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 03:08:06 +0000
While trying to download various files via ftp I ran into many "timeout"
problems which ultimately led me to give up on the download from Linux.
I then downloaded the files using WSFtp from the Windows NT side of my
computer without any timeout or transfer problems. From the same ftp
servers tat previously kicked me off.
Do I have to tweak something in the set-up somewhere or should I be
using a different ftp program or what? Anyone have any ideas on what
could possible going on? It is more than anoying that I have to use
Windoze and then dealing with the stupid DOS filename truncation when I
move the files from the DOS partition to the Linux partition really gets
me going.
Help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem speed
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:48:41 +0000
It appears, I am very certain that my connection to my ISP is a whole
lot slower when using Linux when compared to the Windows NT side of my
computer. Dis I mess up with the set-up or are there any tricks I should
be aware of to speed things up?
Thanks for your help.
--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Oops. Locked out :(
Date: 1 Jul 1999 02:42:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:37:47 -0400 Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>At the LILO prompt enter "linux single" or "linux 1" to boot the system
>into single-user mode. It will put you at the "#" prompt without
>requiring a password.
On my system, it requires the root password. And while I haven't tried it,
won't it still try to put him in the root account's shell?
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: An "ls" question
Date: 1 Jul 1999 02:41:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 01 Jul 1999 01:34:56 +0200 Johannes Nix
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>info is a very conenient terminal-based hypertext system. It is much
>better than man pages to give introductional informations, because it
>is hypertext. Man is really a reference manual, it normally does not
>give any introduction and few examples.
Info is a nearly-useless, impossible-to-learn atrocity.
In other words, we disagree.
I am a computer professional -- programmer, network admin, manual
writer. I once used IBM's JCL without difficulty on a punched-card
system. My first home computer used CP/M.
I find info *impenetrable*.
>For this reason, especially newbies should learn it _first_ ("info
>info"). Most of the GNU software is documented with info, and they put
>_a lot_ effort to make it understandable.
They failed miserably.
You seem to have the common "programmer attitude" that it's okay to
force people to learn *your* way of doing things. Wrong. The first
and absolute requirement for a documentation system must be that the
documentation system *itself* should not require reading any docs.
Think about it.
Why *avoid* using perfectly easy systems?
If the documentation must be hypertext (and there's no good reason
for the "ls" docs to be hypertext), then use something that's
a)Standard
b)Has usable, lean readers available (lynx), or graphical
ones for GUI types.
Obviously I mean HTML, though one could make a case for XML or some
other derivative of SGML.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make numlock key stay on
Date: 30 Jun 1999 21:37:03 -0500
Scott Lanning wrote:
>
> Steve Lawler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Change what where?
>
> If not now when?
> If not me who?
> Yoohoo?
>
> cat >> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
> for mu in /dev/tty[1-9]*; do
> setleds -D +num < $mu
> done
> ^d
I got a good laugh when I saw the post. A few months ago I and a few
others were wondering how to fix the bug in Mandrake 5.3 which would
force the numlock on everytime we'd log on.
I eventually found those few lines of offending code in rc.sysinit and
yanked them out. I also posted a help section on my web site
for those who are also annoyed by the bug.
To each his own I guess ...
--
use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
use Linux for safe and quick internet access
use Winblows to test the latest viruses
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: freeze with blue screen
Date: 30 Jun 1999 20:16:26 -0700
Hi,
I have recently been having a problem with Linux crashing. I don't ever
turn my box off, but occasionally, it will die with just a sort of
blinking blue screen which requires a hard reboot. It doesn't seem to be
caused by an application since it has happened even when nobody is logged
in. The box is also not responsive to pings or any sort of outside
connection; it looks like it just dies. This has happened with kernels
2.2.9 and 2.2.10 (although I ran 2.2.9 happily for quite a while). Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Janet
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From: Geoff Winans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:40:05 -0700
Vincenzo Valvano wrote:
> The customer does not ask for a specific os.
> Generally you have to build the solution, not to sell os.
> When you have to repair your tv-set, normally, you want the job
> done, or do you ask for a specific brand replacements ?
>
No. That is a true point here.
>
>
> > It makes absolutely no difference to me if it needs a diesel-powered
> > network interface or new starch for the floppy drive. If the customer
> > wants it, who cares what it runs on?
I have a technical problem--what kind of Oil do I use on my Deisel powered
NIC? :)
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From: Ashley W Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:44:17 -0400
Are you joking!? They are examples of lousy support from a company too
cheap to shand behind its own products!
I'm afraid, though, that all software is going that way, in the end. It's
very sad.
-Ashley Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Jack Richards wrote:
>
> Stuart Fox wrote in message <7l91fk$489fv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
> >Miguel Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:R6Nd3.96071$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> Your evidence suggests you cannot configure NT properly.
> >> >
> >> > I see comments like this all the time, and I wonder: does NT really
> have
> >> > this much touted "ease of administration" ? I always hear NT advocates
> >> > say "you configured it wrong", but they are incapable of pointing out
> >> > *what* was ( or in the absence of detailed information, what *might
> >have*
> >> > ) been configured incorrectly, which makes one wonder if configuring NT
> >is
> >> > not even a science, but a black art.
> >>
> >> Same question bugs me. When someone has a problem with Unix, the
> responses
> >> say what to fix to make it work. When someone has a problem with NT, the
> >> responses are all stories of mythical NT servers with 12-year uptimes,
> >> coupled with personal insults about administrator incompetence.
> >>
> >> I have never yet received a successful solution to an NT problem in a
> >> newsgroup or from MS tech support. The only working solution always ends
> >up
> >> being to abandon the product being used and try another one (generally an
> >NT
> >> port of a unix-world open source program).
> >
> >Try going to msnews.microsoft.com and posting your problem in one of the
> >newsgroups there. Most people end up being helped.
>
> Exactly. These newsgroups have MVPs, or Most Valuable Professionals, usually
> people who are in a related business, and they are very knowledgeable and in
> contact with MS engineers if necessary.
>
> But most problems are not understanding the proper method or convention, or
> third party problems, rather than actual bugs.
>
> These newsgroups support all MS products and show the way MS is able to
> organize things to help consumers.
>
> Jack
>
>
> <snip>
>
> >Stu
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: "Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrading to RH6.0
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:59:24 +0000
I downloaded all the files from the ftp.redhat.com/redhat/updates/6.0/i386 directory,
the question is are these the files to upgrade from RH5.1 to 6.0?
Do I just simply install the downloaded RPMS?
What can I expect as far as things breaking and do I have to make any changes to LILO?
Anyone have any ideas, insight into this?
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Magnus Ahltorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: login question
Date: 27 Jun 1999 23:09:41 +0200
Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok, here's the question: I'm trying to set up a linux client that has the
> same user base as the workstations on an established network that uses AFS
> and DFS. Instead of keeping the passwords locally and creating local home
> directories, I'd like to authenticate their passwords using one of the
> workstations and mount their DFS directory using samba at the login.
Why do you want to use samba? Use an AFS client instead. There is a
free AFS client called Arla.
> Do I need a specail PAM to perform the login? How do I get the linux
> client to source the server's passwords?
If you are using normal kerberos login (which should be the case), you
can use KTH-KRB (kerberos 4) or Heimdal (kerberos 5) depending on the
kerberos version being used.
Web pages:
KTH-KRB: http://www.pdc.kth.se/kth-krb/
Heimdal: http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/
Arla: http://www.stacken.kth.se/projekt/arla/
Download:
KTH-KRB: ftp://ftp.pdc.kth.se/pub/krb/src/
Heimdal: ftp://ftp.pdc.kth.se/pub/heimdal/src/
Arla: ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/arla/
If you have any additional questions regarding these packages, I'll be
happy to answer them.
/Magnus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Somethin Dumb I did.
Date: 30 Jun 1999 22:41:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I didn't have any trouble installing BeOS. What put me off it permanently was
this: I bought the first Intel release. It installed OK, ran OK. I was
perturbed about them including a crippled compiler, but I figured Fred Fish or
somebody would do a GCC port soon, and besides I at least got the includes and
libraries, which is more than I got with my Amiga. (No compiler there either,
but there were free ones, including GCC.) But then I figured I'd try out their
much-hyped multimedia capabilities. I fired up the included movie player. The
speed, as advertised, was fantastic. But what's this? 256 colors?! Dithered?!
Some of them in grayscale?! Naturally, I sent in a bug report. They sent back
a note basically saying "yeah, we know about that, we changed the video API
between the beta and the release and didn't upgrade the movie player yet, what
do you expect from a first release anyway?" Hell, I expect something I PAID FOR
to work as advertised!
Then, to make matters worse, the next Intel release comes out. All the problems
in the first version are supposed to be fixed. But not only do they NOT give it
to owners of their previous release for free, they CHANGED TO ELF BINARIES (at
least they had the sense to switch to GCC...) and didn't support the old
proprietary binary format anymore! So, instead of buying it, I wiped the Be
partition and moved /usr/local and /home into it!
--
Secretary, Williamsport Area Computer Club <http://www.sunlink.net/wacc>
Member, Susquehanna Valley Amateur Astronomers
<http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2999/svaa.html>
Personal Home Page: http://woodstock.csrlink.net/~jshaffer
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From: James Moe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: Need Iomega Ditto 3200 (3.2G) Tape Drive info
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 03:48:17 GMT
Ron Gibson wrote:
>
> I'm considering getting an Iomega 3200 (3.2 G) floppy connected internal
> tape backup.
>
> What problems might be encountered with a Pentium II system if any.
>
> Other comments are recommended especially on any locations for
> refurbished or closeouts on Travans units (URL or phone number)
>
> Please, I'm not interested in an high end DAT unit or SCSI unit if any
> kind unless I can buy it for $75.
>
After years of using QIC and Travan I would re-think your position.
QIC/Travan is a money pit. The drives are relatively cheap bur the media
is waaay expensive. Each time I get another drive it cannot use the
earlier media; more money down the hole. I was regularly outraged to
have to dump $35 tapes becasue they had a bad block and the backup
programs would not format it because the format is "proprietary."
The only truly decent tape solution I have peronally used is DAT.
It's expensive; and worth every penny for its reliablity, and the media
is cheap.
Recently I got an ORB removable hard drive. $200 for the drive, $30
per 2.2GB disk. I could not retire my tape drives fast enough (except
the DAT)!
So, if you are interested, I happen to have a couple of Iomega Ditto
2GB tape drives, one external parallel port, the other internal
floppy-connected. With tapes...
--
sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email
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Subject: Re: Backspace in Netscape 4.6
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 Jun 1999 23:30:35 -0400
"Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can anyone tell me how I can get the Backspace to work as backspace and
> not "forward delete"?
i had the same problem. this site helped me out
<URL:http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard/keyboardprev.html>
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Setting up a mail server on RH 6.0
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:43:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To get Netscape on Linux working for receiving mail from your own
sendmail - go into edit preferences and select "movemail" instead of
pop3, imap, etc...
Use the POP3 or IMAP setting if you want to get mail from a remote host
(e.g. your ISP).
If you have your "own domain setup" (as Jim says) you want to use the
"movemail" setting on that system. If you get your mail at your ISP you
can either set Netscape to POP3/IMAP or use "fetchmail" to get your
mail from your ISP into your local system and then use NS's "movemail"
setting.
Jim wants his own linux box to serve mail to his various mail clients.
Elm and pine work because he's running them on box that's got sendmail
on it. To use Netscape and outlook on OTHER boxes on his LAN, he needs
to install a POP3 *SERVER* on the linux box.
Sendmail gets mail from
local clients (elm, pine) and
from remote clients (Netscape, Outlook) using a TCP socket
and sends forwards to the destination's sendmail.
Sendmail also accepts incomming mail from remote sendmails.
Sendmail does NOT go out and ask a remote system for incoming mail.
That's what "fetchmail" does.
Sendmail doesn't hold mail waiting for a remote client to come in and
get it.
That's what POP servers are for.
Mark A wrote:
>
> Jim:
>
> I am in the *very* early planning stages of doing something similar. I
> have a LAN at my office, composed mostly of Win95/98 machines. I have a
> cable modem hooked up to my Linux box, and want to use that to retrieve
> the e-mail from the ISP, then act as a mail server for the rest of the
> LAN.
>
> I have seen several "add-on" mail client and server programs listed,
> such as Balsa and Fetchmail. I have not tried any of them, and don't
> really know what I am doing (yet).
>
> Would any of those programs be helpful for you?
>
> Jim Orfanakos wrote:
> >
> > I have setup my Linux RH 6.0 system as a DNS serevr and a DHCP server...now
> > I want to set it up as a mail server. I have another Linux RH 6.0
> > workstation and a WIN 98 workstation that I am testing with.
> >
> > I have my own domain setup, and am testing with sending mail to:
> >
> > 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from any host
> > 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from any host
> > 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] from from any host
> > 4) user from any host
> >
> > Everything works fine if I use ELM or PINE from the Linux workstation or the
> > Linux server.
> >
> > The problem is that Netscape Messenger on the Linux server, Netscape
> > Messenger on the Linux workstation, and Outlook Express on the WIN98
> > workstation cannot establish a connection when sending and receiving mail.
> > Actually....it appears that all will send, but none of them will receive.
> >
> > I suspect the problem is with POP3 / SMTP configuration on the RH 6.0
> > server. Netscape and Outlook Express want a POP3 server for incoming mail,
> > and a SMTP server for outgoing mail. The RH 6.0 Linuxconf tool for setting
> > up a mail server only uses POP for the protocol. There is no separate
> > incoming and separate outgoing protocol configuration, plus from the pull
> > downs, Linuxconf only supports POP, SMTP, or UUCP.
> >
> > I want to set the mail server up so it can server any e-mail client.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Jim, Monika and Sophia Orfanakos
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.orfanakos.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Mark S. Anthony
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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