Linux-Misc Digest #993, Volume #20               Sat, 10 Jul 99 20:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  "find" running after boot - why? (Thomas Ruedas)
  Re: crontab, specify last day of month? (Dr. Stephen S. Kerr)
  Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (Thomas Kochak)
  Re: another newbie...hellp plz ("deny all")
  Re: crontab, specify last day of month? (Paul Smicker)
  Re: Cron entry to run once? (Kristin Aanestad)
  How to make lazy evaluation work in bash? (Siemel Naran)
  Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect) ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
  Re: time of day clock drift (Villy Kruse)
  Re: crontab, specify last day of month? (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: Korn SHell basic problems (NF Stevens)
  Re: Teac CDR56S experiences? ("Robert L. McCormick")
  FIDO Software (Dima Pashko)
  Re: problems with star office 5.1 (Reinhard Karcher)
  Re: "find" running after boot - why? (Thomas Ruedas)
  converting mp3->wav????? (Eric Wyles)
  nfs export of raw device??? (Wade Hampton)
  Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults??? (Bob Nelson)
  Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Odd H. Sandvik)
  Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect) ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
  Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0.  Help!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
  SB16 PnP troubles (Dave Brown)
  Linux and Memory (Jim)
  HELP.  Can only login as root. (Wmjmick)
  Re: SB16 PnP troubles (Eric Wyles)
  Re: Making an ICQ server (Paul Moore)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:22:01 +0200
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "find" running after boot - why?

Hello,
maybe it's a stupid question, but I didn't observe this on my former
Linux installation:
When I start Linux, almost always a quite busy job is automatically
started and working on my HD for several minutes, beginning 1 or 2
minutes after having booted into Linux. top indicates that it is a find
process owned by the user nobody and (not sure) another one owned by
root. I am wondering about it, because that never happened on my former
Linux installation. Why does this happen, and is it necessary or can it
be turned off (I find it a bit disturbing, as it slows down things)? If
it can be turned off, how do I do it? BTW, it doesn't seem to do any
harm.
I'm on a Debian Linux box (kernel 2.0.34).
Thanks for any hints,
Thomas
-- 
============================================
Thomas Ruedas
Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics, 
J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
Feldbergstrasse 47                      D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949               Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
============================================

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Stephen S. Kerr)
Subject: Re: crontab, specify last day of month?
Date: 10 Jul 1999 18:55:43 GMT

Big John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

:    As I understand it, 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Any Century year
: that is evenly divisable by 4, the leap day (Feb 29) is skiped.
: So your solution works till 2004

What I remember (from an exercise in Kernighan and Ritchie), is that years
divisible by 4 and *not* divisble by 100 are leap years, except that years
divisible by 400 are leap years.  So 2000 is a leap year.

I hope this helps.

Stephen Kerr

------------------------------

From: Thomas Kochak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:45:16 -0500

What is ALSA ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use ALSA with Ensoniq PCIaudio, RH6.0 2.2.15-22 kernel (custom compiled).
> I am completely satisfied.
>
> Muuga wrote:
> >
> >  Alot of ppl swear by this card(thats why I bought it), but it doesnt
> > configure too well under linux.
> >
> > Under Win98 its  irq=11 I/O=220 DMA=1
> > of course it works great under windoze :/
> >
> > this is what it looks like under /proc/pci
> >
> > #PCI devices found:  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
> > #    Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
> > #      Vendor id=1274.  Device id=1371.      Slow devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master
> > #Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128.      I/O at 0xe800.
> >
> > and    /etc/conf.modules
> >
> > #alias sound sb
> > #options -k sb io=0x220 irq=11 dma=1
> >
> > I running RH 5.1 with a recompliled 2.0.37 kernel
> > on a FIC 503+ k6 300
> > I must have recompiled 2 dozen times(just for the sound section of make
> > menuconfig , since I got the card.
> >
> > i get this on boot up :
> > #Sound initialization started
> > #Sound initialization complete
> > not once did I get something in between :(
> >
> > maybe im missing something in the sound configuration part of compilation?
> >
> > CONFIG_SOUND=y
> > CONFIG_SB=y
> > CONFIG_AUDIO=y
> > CONFIG_YM3812=y
> > SBC_BASE=220
> > SBC_IRQ=11
> > SBC_DMA=1
> > SB_DMA2=-1
> > SB_MPU_BASE=388
> > SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
> > DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
> >
> > if you have this card and got it working under linux , please tell me how
> > you have you box configured.
> >  Thanks


------------------------------

From: "deny all" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: another newbie...hellp plz
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:57:56 GMT

Try this link: http://www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee/




------------------------------

From: Paul Smicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: crontab, specify last day of month?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:18:02 -0700

Well, I wasn't sure if doing it right at 00:00 would absolutely keep a
hit or two from sneaking in after the month rolled over but before the
script shuts down httpd. Ah, maybe I shouldn't worry about it :)

--
Paul Smicker
Computer Specialist
WestEd

Greg H wrote:

> R.K.Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hmm if it's that important to catch it all, why not run it at
> > 00:00 on the first of every month? :P
>
>    Should this be the route chosen, the script can be put in
> /etc/cron.monthly
>
>    Greg H.
>
> --
> ROT-13 encoded email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


------------------------------

From: Kristin Aanestad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cron entry to run once?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:56:28 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> I've just grabbed Seti@Home to run under Linux (with RC5 running under OS/2),
> and want to start it apon bootup with a cron entry. The README file mentioned
> an "included" set_cron_job script, but the tarball only contained the binary
> and README file.
>
> Can someone explain how to start a cron entry once only?
>
> I've currently got a rather complex setup to run an EggDrop bot - but it
> involves running a script every ten minutes to check for the existance of
> (and stale checking) a PID file, performing some other miscelaneous checks,
> then running the bot if neccesary.
>
> A tad over the top for my needs here - and I don't see a PID file (or any
> reference to said) in the setiathome directory.

I don't know what Seti@Home is, but i run a few eggdrops - if it's the
botchk script you have a problem with, the way you "communicate"
with cron is via a utility called crontab.

do a "man crontab"

What to put in a file you eventually crontab, is described in commens in the
botchk script.
You only crontab a job once - after that cron takes care of managing the
schedules
and if the system is rebooted, cron will "remember" crontab'ed jobs as soon as
it's
 up and running again.

If it's a botpid you're looking for it's in the dir where you start it's script
from,
with name pid.botnick (whatever nick)

K


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Siemel Naran)
Subject: How to make lazy evaluation work in bash?
Date: 10 Jul 1999 20:15:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Instead of actually executing commands C1 C2 C3 etc, I'm constructing a
string to execute these commands.  The rationale is that I'll execute
the commands only if all are garaunteed (or almost garaunteed) to work.
The relevant part of my shell script is
   errors=0
   actions=""
   actions()
   {
      if [ isok $1 ]; then actions="actions dosomething $1 ; "
      else error=$[$error+1]
      fi
   }
   
Now if I call action on three files
   action file1
   action file2
   action file3
then I want 'errors' to be 0.  And if 'errors' is  0, then I execute
the commands with
   $actions
   
But even though the string 'actions' is
   dosomething file1 ; dosomething file2 ; dosomething file3 ;
the shell claims that it is a syntax error.  It seems that it is trying
to evaluate "dosomething $1" and then do the concatenation.

How can I suppress the evaluation of "dosomething $1" and just force
the shell to concatenate 'actions' with "dosomething $1"?

--
==================================
Siemel B. Naran ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
==================================

------------------------------

From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:18:49 -0400

Thanks.  I will try that and let you know what happens.  I am finding out
that when I connect between to linux box's, they connect ok, but won't let
you ftp between the two.  Telnet will connect, but won't let me get past the
login section.  I thought I could log in as root and use the same password?
It say's incorrect login.




Ed



>Hi Ed,
>
>Actually, I just spent 4 hours on this myself last night. It seems that
>Van Jacobson compression has some issues in the latest pppd. Disable it,
>and TCP should work better. Just add -vj into your pppd arguments, either
>through linuxconf or through kppp.
>
>
>Petros



------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: time of day clock drift
Date: 5 Jul 1999 09:58:40 +0200

In article <7lodi5$btv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>For a free standing machine only occasionally connected to the net, and
>whose harware clock is flakey, chrony is far far better. It will
>readjust the clock on boot up as well to adjust for the hardware clocks
>flakeyness.



I'll support that !

Chronyd uses the same protocol as xntp, but it has an added option where
you can tell it to go offline and freewheel for a period.  Then you can
let it connect to the server for some minutes, during which it will 
synchronize, and also see if the clock rate should be ajusted.

You can also use rdate or xntpdate, but that wouldn't ajust the speed
of the clock as chrounyd and xtnpd does.

Check out: http://www.rrbcurnow.freeserve.co.uk/chrony/index.html

Villy







------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: crontab, specify last day of month?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:02:24 GMT

On 10 Jul 1999 18:55:43 GMT, Dr. Stephen S. Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Big John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>:    As I understand it, 2000 is *not* a leap year.  Any Century year
>: that is evenly divisable by 4, the leap day (Feb 29) is skiped.
>: So your solution works till 2004
>
>What I remember (from an exercise in Kernighan and Ritchie), is that years
>divisible by 4 and *not* divisble by 100 are leap years, except that years
>divisible by 400 are leap years.  So 2000 is a leap year.

Pope Gregory is the relevant authority in the matter, and yes, 2000 *IS*
a leap year.

See URL below for more details.

-- 
Rules of the Evil Warlord #87. "When my guards split up to search for
intruders, they will always travel in groups of at least two. They
will be trained so that if one of them disappears mysteriously while
on patrol, the other will immediately initiate an alert and call for
backup, instead of quizzically peering around a corner." 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linuxy2k.html>

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Korn SHell basic problems
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:46:12 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard L. Hamilton) wrote:

>Use <ESC>*  for filename completion in vi editing mode.

If you're using pdksh then you can have tab completion
by 

set -o vi-tabcomplete

Norman

------------------------------

From: "Robert L. McCormick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Teac CDR56S experiences?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:57:10 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I plan to buy a Teac CDR56S internal SCSI CD-R drive for my computer. I
> already have a SCSI-2 (AdvanSys) card installed and working fine, and
> I'm running Red Hat 5.1 Linux. If anyone had good or bad experiences
> with this drive, I'd appreciate hearing about it.
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Milica
>

Don't have any information myself, but here is something on the 55s from
another post:


Krishna Behara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Would like any information on CD burners that
> are compatible with linux.

in addition to the FAQ's that people have mentioned, my personal
experience
(we (the university) recently purchased a CD burning machine, running
linux, which has been performing backups of school machines, as many as
20-30 disks per day)

 - stay away from smart & friendly.  they take various manufacturers, and
   repackage them.  so it's rather difficult to know what kind of drive
   you're getting.

 - TEAC R55S - got two, both dead in the water after only a few disks.

 - YAMAHA 4416S (4x/4x/16x CDRW), $270 internal SCSI.  pounded probably
   close to 100 CDR's out in the past week, zero problems  - highly
   reccomend it.

--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net  | PGP key
available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5        i586 | at public
servers
We question most of the mantras around here periodically, in case
you hadn't noticed.  :-)
             -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dima Pashko)
Subject: FIDO Software
Date: Fri,  9 Jul 1999 07:04:54 +0300

                    Hello, All !

    Can you said me what software I must use for connect to FIDO ?
Thank you.

             Good bye!  Dima.


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: 09 Jul 99 21:39:37 GMT
Subject: Re: problems with star office 5.1

Dave Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>i installed star office 5.1 a while ago and it worked great (slow, but
>without flaws) recently i did a little upgrading and now i get a somewhat
>mysterious error when i try to start it up:

>/usr/local/Office51/bin/soffice.bin: error in loading shared libraries:
>/usr/local/Office51/lib/libc.so.6: 
>undefined symbol: _dl_global_scope_end

Hi Dave,
there was a problem with Staroffice and glibc 2.1. Perhaps it is related
with your problem?

Reinhard


------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:56:41 +0200
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "find" running after boot - why?

>> When I start Linux, almost always a quite busy job is automatically
>> started and working on my HD for several minutes
>That is a script which is "indexing" the filesystem so you can quickly
>find them using the "locate" command when can give instant information.
Aha! Sounds interesting - I will have a close look on that feature.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Best regards,
Thomas
-- 
============================================
Thomas Ruedas
Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics, 
J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
Feldbergstrasse 47                      D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949               Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
============================================

------------------------------

From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: converting mp3->wav?????
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:11:52 -0800

does anyone know how to convert an mp3 file to a  wav file.
I'm trying to do some cd recording and I only have mp3
files. I would like to use cdrecord to do the recording.

thanks



**** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start Here (tm) ****

------------------------------

From: Wade Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: nfs export of raw device???
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:55:42 -0400

I have several questions:

1.  Is there any way to export a raw device such as a serial
    port or raw disk partition to another client on another machine?
    The IOCTLs could be done locally....  If it were a disk, I would
    need random access (i.e., a simple rsh would not work)....

2.  Is there a file system for Linux that supports > 2GB files? 
Possibly
    UFS (I can read and write, but can't format UFS), or XFS (from
SGI?)?

3.  Any tools for formatting UFS?

4.  Any news on XFS from SGI -- I have not heard anything nor seen
anything
    since Linux Expo....

Please respond via e-mail....  

Thanks,
-- 
W. Wade, Hampton  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

------------------------------

From: Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults???
Date: 10 Jul 1999 16:57:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Can someone please tell me whether there is an option to stop a core
> dump being produced, and where it can be set if it exists.  Otherwise,
> any suggestions on ensure core file generation on seg faults would be
> greately appreciated.

Presuming bash as the shell, ``help ulimit''. Pay special attention to
the ``-c'' option.
-- 
========================================================================
          Bob Nelson -- Dallas, Texas, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
      http://www.oldradio.com/archives/nelson/open-computing.html
``Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.''

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Odd H. Sandvik)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:55:11 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...

> My boss hates Steve Jobs and I have yet to figure out why...

There are many reasons to hate Steve Jobs. Personally I hate
him for killing CHRP and BeOS PPC. 

-- 
Odd H. Sandvik
Email: hensandv(AT)online.no ( note: (AT) = @ )
*Adress in "From:" field is for the SPAM bots.*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

------------------------------

From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:25:16 -0400

It didn't work for me.  I guess it may be more complicated?  Thanks.

                                                                        Ed


>
>Actually, I just spent 4 hours on this myself last night. It seems that
>Van Jacobson compression has some issues in the latest pppd. Disable it,
>and TCP should work better. Just add -vj into your pppd arguments, either
>through linuxconf or through kppp.
>
>
>Petros



------------------------------

From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0.  Help!!
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:23:38 -0400

Thanks, I'll give that a try.


Ed



------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: SB16 PnP troubles
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Jul 99 23:31:24 GMT

Every now and then, I just can't resist trying to get my
SB16 PnP card to work in Linux.  I happen to be trying 
in Slackware with a 2.0.35 kernel, but I've not had much 
better luck with RH 5.2 or SuSE 6.1.  (Each seems to 
take a different approach to the problem.)  Web pages 
with sound are still silent for me.  I can't seem to get 
past square one.

If I compile the kernel module with dma set to 1,5, then when I 
load the module, /proc/dma shows 1 for SB8 and 5 for SB16;
except that the card seems to be retricted to 1,3.  (That's
the way it seems to work in Win95).  And putting the 
second DMA at 5 in isapnp.conf seems to be ignored.  I can 
play some .wav sounds, but not others.  (Maybe some are 
8 bit files, and others are 16 bit files?)  

If I compile the kernel module with dma set 1,3, then when I 
load the module, it says there's a dma conflict.  (Even though 
/proc/dma only shows "1, SB8 and 4, cascade".  

Whereas I've read over the Sound HOWTO, and a PnP web page, I still
find this whole area very confusing.  ...And marvelling at how at 
least one other operating system has managed to deal with sound 
cards "rather effortlessly" whereas Linux handles sound in a way 
to baffle the experts--like me :) 

(I ignored sound for a lot of years, but just knowing that it works 
in Windows and I can't make it work in Linux has bugged the heck out 
of me for the past year.)  

Dave Brown   Austin, TX

------------------------------

From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and Memory
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:54:35 +0000

I'm running rh 6.0 on a P150 with 93 mb of ram. My system monitor is
telling me  that 90% of my memory is being used.
I install "everything" during install, and there are quite a few daemons
running, so I suspect this is the problem.
Anyway,  can anyone point me to a good reference on the web re: Linux
memory usage.
Thanks in advance
Jim McIntyre
Webmaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wmjmick)
Subject: HELP.  Can only login as root.
Date: 10 Jul 1999 23:53:27 GMT

I recently installed Red Hat 5.0 on my PC.  Everything seems fine, but it only
lets me login as "root".  

I've tried creating several alternate user names/passwords using the User
Configurator in the X Control Panel, but then after logging off, these same
names/passwords don't work when I try to login at the "localhost login:"
prompt.  

I've also tried "adduser" to create user names.  Logins with these
names/passwords are also unsuccessful, even though they subsequently appear in
the User Configurator as valid users.

Everything I read says I should avoid perusing the system as "root", since I
could do some damage.  Anyone have any ideas?

------------------------------

From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB16 PnP troubles
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:00:55 -0800

I may be way oversimplifying what you are trying to do, but
I installed a SB16 Pnp on a Rh 5.2 box by typing

sndconfig

and answering the prompts for IRQ, DMA, etc.

works like a charm.

PEACE



**** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start Here (tm) ****

------------------------------

From: Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:33:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Azfar Kazmi wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any ICQ daemon available? I looked at freshmeat.net but found
> none stable. How can I make an ICQ box?
>
> I have provided a cache server to users and they connect to Internet
> through that. Since they wish to use ICQ and Squid doesn't allow that
> therefore I thought why I don't make my own box an ICQ server. Is that
> possible? I have never used ICQ though. I even don't know how the client
> works.
>
> I am using Redhat 4.1 kernel 2.0.34
>
> --
> Azfar Kazmi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Paul Anderson is right about ICQ having many security holes in it, and ICQ
does not support secure transmition. I know of a non IQC compatible clone
(if that makes sense) called Teaser. The client is called Firecat. I dont
know the URL so do a search on Freshmeat.


------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************

Reply via email to