Linux-Misc Digest #561, Volume #21 Fri, 27 Aug 99 17:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: VMware - wow! (John Hasler)
Re: POP3 server. ("Aaron Lyon")
Re: POP3 and SMTP for Sendmail/Linux (Aaron Slepecky)
Re: MP3 Player (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Re: VMware - wow! (Doug DeJulio)
Re: POP3 server. ("Luca Satolli (KaBooM)")
Re: Where is "glint" after RH6.0 upgrade?!? (Walter Francis)
Re: SCSI tape drive suggestions? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Multiple NICS on one machine (Nathanael)
Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server ("Kyle Maxwell")
Re: VMware - wow! (steve mcadams)
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Grant Edwards)
Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server (Jorge O. Martinez)
Re: No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm (Alvin)
Re: MP3 Player ("Harlan S. Barney, Jr.")
Re: Sendmail configuration (Philipp von dem Bussche-Hünnefeld)
help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *nix vs. MS security (notbob)
Re: VMware - wow! (steve mcadams)
Re: 97801 emulator for linux ("T.E.Dickey")
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:00:56 GMT
steve mcadams writes:
> Better than nothing but absolutely not a true virtual machine operating
> system by the definition that I'm used to.
It doesn't claim to be a virtual machine operating system. It is a virtual
machine. Different.
--
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Reply-To: "Aaron Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Aaron Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:22:32 -0700
Yes it is called sendmail. It is a pop/smtp server.
Luca Satolli (KaBooM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is a pop3 server in Red Hat 5.2/6.0?
> Thanks a lot & best Regards
> Luca Satolli
>
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From: Aaron Slepecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 and SMTP for Sendmail/Linux
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:30:56 GMT
Chris Mahmood wrote:
>
> Aaron Slepecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I recently configured a zone on my box for the purpose of testing
email.
> > I setup sendmail and the DNS correctly(I think) and can send and
receive
> > mail locally. Whenever I go off site (for example: checking mail with
> > yahoo) I cannot POP the mail for some reason.
> [deleted crossposts to *.setup and redhat.*.security]
> Are you running a POP server? Is it running?
> -ckm
> p.s. Please don't crosspost to groups where this would be off-topic.
yes the POP server is running. That is how I get my mail locally. It
seems to be a problem with the firewall. I think I am using just a
generic Linux firewall that does not allow POP3 to be accessed from
outside but I have no idea what files to start looking at. (This was a
boxed system with a preconfigured slackware firewall/sendmail/apache)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky)
Subject: Re: MP3 Player
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,redhat.general
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:11:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Using Red Hat 6.0
: AMD K6 233
: 96 MB of ram
: Trying to find some way to play my mp3's and nothing is working does anyone
: have any suggestions on getting them to work?
I'd suggest using some MP3 playing software.
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Phil Darnowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove spam, eggs, bacon, spam, and dot to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:23:07 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric deRiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>steve mcadams wrote:
>
>> It is my understanding that the Intel x86 architecture lacks a couple of
>> instructions that make TOTAL TRANSPARENCY impossible. This is why I was
>> initially skeptical.
>
>If being a true virtual machine implies hardware-supported
>transparency, then your objection is reasonable. But if a software
>layer makes up for the missing functionality, such that the OS running
>on the vm still ends up with no knowledge of its circumstances, what's
>the difference?
The point is that you *can't* do this perfectly on today's
IA32-compatible systems.
You can get close. You can fudge the parts you can't do by performing
slight hacks on the OS you run on the virtualized machine (VMWare does
this, eg. with its special X server or Windows display driver).
You can switch things over to interpreting the machine code rather
than running it directly, which will get you even closer (but then why
not use PoewrPC or Alpha underneath, instead of a physical version of
the virtual CPU you're emulating?).
The part of this that's a shame is that it'd only take a few tweaks to
IA32 to make virtualization really possible. I believe a non-Intel
vendor (eg. AMD) could do those tweaks in a way that doesn't break
compatability with any code that isn't aware of it, and build a truely
virtualizable x86 box. But nobody appears to have done so.
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: "Luca Satolli (KaBooM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:26:25 +0200
Aaron Lyon wrote:
> Yes it is called sendmail. It is a pop/smtp server.
>
> Luca Satolli (KaBooM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Is a pop3 server in Red Hat 5.2/6.0?
> > Thanks a lot & best Regards
> > Luca Satolli
> >
ohh, so sendmail can also handle pop3 acount, I didn't know it.
.. but just another thing ... I've try to add a pop3 account from
linuxconf and then to get the email ... it seems not to work! ... Have I
to make something to enable it?
Thanks a lots
Luca (KaBooM)
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is "glint" after RH6.0 upgrade?!?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:53:09 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TurboTex wrote:
> Just use cli Rpm.. Works best anyway. Try to Force a package with
> glint or gnorpm..
Maybe I'm stupid, but I've NEVER been able to get gnorpm working.. It's
been a few months, but I seem to remember I had troubles making it look
in the directory I wanted to browse.
I always install single RPM's with the command line, but an entire CD of
them is nice to browse by catagory.
Why did they remove glint, anyway?
--
Walter Francis
http://wally.hplx.net Powered by RedHat 6.0
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive suggestions?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:11:49 -0500
fred smith wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Having just installed some new (read: used) SCSI hardware in one of my
> Linux boxen, I'm wondering if someone can point me to some good but
> inexpensive SCSI tape drives. Currently I have no decent backup
> solution and there is a growing number of machines on the in-house
> network needing some kind of backup.
>
> I need to keep the cost down, but would need someting of AT LEAST
> a 5 gig capacity, the more the better.
>
> Suggestions please?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> ---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
> "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
> heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
> ------------------------------ Matthew 7:21 (niv) -----------------------------
The last time I checked all SCSI tape drives cost at least
$500 and typically considerably more. We have a relatively
inexpensive Travan SCSI drive which I think is no longer
available. Try the web sites of vendors like CDW, PC
Connection, and CompUSA. You can also go directly to the
web sites of manufacturers such as Seagate, HP, etc.
I have a SCSI system, but for tape backup I chose an HP
2.5/5 GB IDE drive. There is a similar drive with higher
capacity---4/8 GB, I think. Recent Linux kernels support most, but
not all, tape functions on these drives, and I have found mine
completely adequate for backup using tar. These drives
typically cost under $300.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Nathanael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple NICS on one machine
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:05:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I've got two Network cards in one machine. One is to a cablemodem and
> the other to a DSL line. (from different ISPs). I can get eth0 working
> and runnning (internet is great) I can get the Kernel to recognize eth1.
> But once eth1 is there I have no more internet. I've used ping to see if
> teh cards respond (both do) But I can't get it to let me have both cards
> on the machine at once. You might wonder why I want two lines to the
> Internet. The Cablemodem comes with 4 free static IPs and I'm testing
> running some of the server software for my company. The second one is
> used for personal use once this cablemodem is gone. I haven't set up
> only the DSL to see if it works solo. Any hints? The default gateway is
> set to the gateway of the cablemodem, Ifconfig sees both cards. The DSL
> card has around 4500 RX packets but zero's everywhere else.
>
> Nathanael Noblet
Here's the output of ifconfig, route -n and netstat -nr
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
Iface
24.72.20.230 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0
eth0
24.72.20.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 24.72.20.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
eth0
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
10.10.14.148 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0
eth1
24.72.20.230 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0
eth0
24.72.20.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
eth0
10.10.14.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 24.72.20.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:B4:9F:E1:E8
inet addr:24.72.20.230 Bcast:24.72.20.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:126 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:252
collisions:2142 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe400
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:B4:B5:54:E9
inet addr:10.10.14.148 Bcast:10.10.14.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:4398 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe800
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:89 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:89 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
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From: "Kyle Maxwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:58:01 -0500
You should be able to just tell the dhcp server to only listen on the NIC
for the internal network (e.g. "/usr/sbin/dhcpd eth1", where eth1 is the
interface for your LAN). If someone still compromises an internal box,
that's a separate issue, but it's still relatively safe.
Of course, if you happen to have some sort of internal server in each subnet
(or for that matter just one, if they're all on the same Ethernet segment),
you could always install the dhcp server on that and avoid any peace-of-mind
worries. <G>
--
Kyle Maxwell
GTE EIPS
Jorge O. Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi there Linuxeros!
>
> I have a project (network) that I must finish within the next few days,
and
> one of this network's vital components will be a firewall between my
> private network, and an ADSL connection to the web. I got 5 static IP
> addresses from my provider, so I am going to set up 5 different firewalls
> for different 'depts.' so they are invisible to each other. Of course, the
> firewalls will be Linux based.
>
> I would like to use DHCP for the private network side, and I am wondering
> if I can/should use the same box that I will use for the firewall as a
DHCP
> server...From what I have read, as many services as possible should be
> disabled for the firewall, but I am wondering if the DHCP server would
also
> be a potential security hole...I wonder if I it can even be done as this
is
> my first firewalling project!
>
> I'll be using Suse or Mandrake for the firewall...Or any other distro that
> can get the job done! Suggestions are welcome on this issue too!
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge M.
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:59:31 -0600
Jason Pell wrote:
> You must have a base OS on which to run a virtual machine, thus the
> reason
> it is called a _virtual_ machine..
>From this I conclude that yes, it is in fact a crude hack.
I guess most people have no experience with true virtual machine
operating systems like IBM's VM/ESA (or whatever its latest version has
been renamed to, I've been away from it since 93).
They have an operating system they called CP (Control Program) that runs
the base hardware. Its sole purpose in life is to TRANSPARENTLY host
other operating systems. The operating systems running on top of it can
not tell they are not running natively. You can even run CP
second-level on top of CP to debug it. It runs at full processor speed,
the systems on top of it run at full processor speed except that there
are lot of interrupts happening that are processed by CP and result in
remapping of memory and hardware to allow sharing of the processor and
its associated hardware on a transparent basis.
It is my understanding that the Intel x86 architecture lacks a couple of
instructions that make TOTAL TRANSPARENCY impossible. This is why I was
initially skeptical.
If vmware is running on top of NT or on top of Linux then at best it is
acting as an interpreter. Better than nothing but absolutely not a true
virtual machine operating system by the definition that I'm used to.
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:16:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leonard Evens wrote:
>There is a danger that Microsoft will attempt to `absorb'
>Linux by distributing its own version which contains
>Microsoft only extensions. But they would have to be
>careful about how they did that because of the GNU
>Pulic License. Linux enthusiasts should avoid being
>seduced by anything Microsoft offers along these lines.
>
>Of course if Microsoft wan't to join the Linux community
>and abide by the GPL, that would be fine, but I can't see them
>doing it.
Perhaps MS intends to contribute large amounts of code to open
source projects -- attempting to turn them into bloated, buggy
crap with which MS's propietary products could compete.
"If out products can't compete with open source projects on
merit, then we'll join the enemy and help them to death."
-- overheard at a MS strategy meeting
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Two with FLUFFO,
at hold th' BEETS...side of
visi.com SOYETTES!
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From: Jorge O. Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can/should a firewall be used as DHCP server
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:31:04 GMT
Jorge O. Martinez wrote:
> Hi there Linuxeros!
>
> I have a project (network) that I must finish within the next few days,
and
> one of this network's vital components will be a firewall between my
> private network, and an ADSL connection to the web. I got 5 static IP
> addresses from my provider, so I am going to set up 5 different firewalls
> for different 'depts.' so they are invisible to each other. Of course,
the
> firewalls will be Linux based.
>
> I would like to use DHCP for the private network side, and I am wondering
> if I can/should use the same box that I will use for the firewall as a
DHCP
> server...From what I have read, as many services as possible should be
> disabled for the firewall, but I am wondering if the DHCP server would
also
> be a potential security hole...I wonder if I it can even be done as this
is
> my first firewalling project!
>
> I'll be using Suse or Mandrake for the firewall...Or any other distro
that
> can get the job done! Suggestions are welcome on this issue too!
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge M.
>
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From: Alvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:31:05 GMT
BradyBear wrote:
> On 25 Jan 1999 00:44:30 GMT, "Jeremy L. Buchmann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> >BradyBear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >: After a recent unsuccessfull attempt to install wp8, I'm now
> >: experiencing a wierd problem. When ever I try to open an xterm, I get
> >: the message "no available ptys". I can start CDE, but if I try to open
> >: a terminal, I get the same message. If I try to just do xinit, X fails
> >: with the same message. I don't know if it's related to the failed wp8
> >: installation attempt, But it started immidiately after that. I tried
> >: reinstalling xfree86 and that went smoothly, but I stll can't open an
> >: xterm. I can't find any references to PTY'S in any documentation
> >: anywhere. My question is, does anybody know what a PTY is and how to I
> >: make them available to xinit?
> >: Thanks
> >
> >Yes, ptys are pseudo-terminals. For some reason, if you try to install
WP
> >from a console, it destroys all your ptys. Not to fear, you can make
them
> >again with MAKEDEV.
> >
> >'man MAKEDEV' will tell you all you need to know.
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Jeremy Buchmann "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yup, that was it!
> MAKEDEV generic fixed it.
> Thanks
...and you need to re-boot !
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From: "Harlan S. Barney, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,redhat.general
Subject: Re: MP3 Player
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:56:34 -0400
Try RealPlayer. This runs under Linix (among a multitude of other
Os's).
It may to necessary to buy (US30) Realplayer Plus to play MP3.
http://www.real.com/
Harlan S. Barney, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Using Red Hat 6.0
>
> AMD K6 233
>
> 96 MB of ram
>
> Trying to find some way to play my mp3's and nothing is working does anyone
>
> have any suggestions on getting them to work?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Thad
>
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From: Philipp von dem Bussche-Hünnefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sendmail configuration
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:30:57 GMT
Matthew D. Melbert wrote:
> I have looked all around but I have not found anyhting helpful to get
> sendmail configured properly. If anyone can help me with this or can
> point me to a HELPFUL site on how to configure sendmail it would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Matt
>
Download this tool:
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/xeer/software/install-sendmail-5.1.tar.gz
This will guide you through the sendmail configuration.
cu,
Philipp.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:41:16 GMT
I'm just about to change into linux, but I have one question.
Would be possible to use programs like NetMeeting from Microsoft?
And other programs windows base like Net2phone or pc2phone kind of
programs.
Will buy these two books "Linux Encyclopedia with CDROM"and "Linux the
complete reference with cdrom".
>From those book will be able to get the system.
But I'm open to any other idea about where to get the program,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:26:08 GMT
evil wrote:
>
> >Win32 relies on security through single users, ignorant users, and
> >frequent reboots. Ask anyone who administers a Win32 system in an
> >academic environment. It's a nightmare.
>
> Aha, so that's why Win32 crashes so often. It's part of their
> security. ;)
>
> ----------
> martin
> .
> evil
LOL ....well Hell then ... my system must REALLY be secure! :)
nb
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From: steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:15:32 -0600
Jason Pell wrote:
> I was not aware that vmware was claiming to be a virtual machine _OS_,
>
> but just a virtual machine running _within_ an OS.
>
> Your thoughts.
>
> Jason
I hope that I didn't imply that I thought it was fraudulent or
anything. I just don't see it as very useful compared to a true virtual
machine operating system. Its reliability will probably be on the same
order as WINE. I'm sure there are things one could do with it, but
personally I don't think I'd want to fiddle with it. Buying a used
system for $300 or so would give reality and Win/Linux network easily
enough.
By all means, go for it. There are all kinds of fun things to play
with, vmware could well be lots of fun.
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 97801 emulator for linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:19:05 GMT
Ralf Schiemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a tool to emulate a Siemens Nixdorf 97801 terminal
> under Linux. Can anybody give me a hint?
I don't think there are any.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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