Linux-Misc Digest #721, Volume #23 Wed, 1 Mar 00 13:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Removing Lilo? ("jdn")
Re: 128 RAM on FIC SD11 and Athlon 600MHz (Paul Lew)
Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting (anonymous)
Re: Linux fails with SMP kernel......What the @#$^%&@ (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Upgrading a server over the network. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Controlling a modem (TAPI?) (Dimitris Terzis)
viewer for postscript files (Stefan Krause)
Re: top (or other) for SMP? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please. ("Steve Cowles")
Re: mounting win95 partition (Leonard Evens)
recursive grep? ("Andrew Arrow")
Gentus Linux - BE6 (jigga)
Re: $1.95 CDs - unstable version?????? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Removing Lilo? (Leonard Evens)
Re: zipdrive backup problem (Jordan Erickson)
Re: recursive grep? (Vilmos Soti)
That slow boot sendmail problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kppp Connect locks up other apps (Simon E. John)
Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please. (Trygve Selmer)
Re: glibc upgrade ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing Lilo?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:01:35 GMT
Okay, one obvious thing is to run fdisk /mbr from DOS. Which is fine, it
boots back into DOS, but then, of course, I can't delete the Linux
partitions since it sees it as an extended DOS partition with logical drives
existing, but doesn't show the logical drives to allow you to delete them.
So, do I need to:
1) Reinstall Linux
2) Create Linux boot floppy so it runs off that.
3) Fdisk from the Linux boot floppy to get rid of Linux partitions
4) *Then* fdisk from DOS?
jdn
"jdn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Gpbv4.1016$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a box which I want to triple-boot with DOS, Linux, and Solaris.
>
> Originally, it had DOS. Linux was then installed using all remaining
> available disk space on the first disk (two 4 GB hard drives installed).
> Solaris 8, for reasons unknown to man, requires space on first disk to
> install. So, Linux was removed. However, Lilo was not removed properly,
so
> it always starts on boot. Typing DOS at boot prompt does properly boot
into
> DOS, but I'd like to remove Lilo completely, so that it will boot straight
> into DOS. Then, I'll install Solaris. Then, I'll install Linux and
> configure it so it will boot into any of the three (I know how to do this
> with NT's boot loader, never tried it with Lilo, but I'll cross that
bridge
> when I get there).
>
> Question is, how do I remove Lilo? I read a HowTo page off of Linux.com,
> but the options described there don't seem to work. Running fdisk /mbr
when
> booted into RedHat Linux 6.1 (Gnome Workstation install) doesn't work.
> Since Linux was uninstalled improperly (e.g. "operator error"), I don't
have
> a file in the requisite subdirectory of /boot to dd back. Format /s from
> DOS doesn't work.
>
> Sorry if this is obvious, but I'm clueless on what to do here. Any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Since this newsgroup is busy,
any
> replies to my e-mail (kingcrim at earthlink dot net) are fine as well.
>
> TIA
>
> jdn
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: 128 RAM on FIC SD11 and Athlon 600MHz
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:06:26 GMT
>......
>At boot time, the kernel uses the BIOS to determine how much memory there
>is. Some BIOSes can return a maximum value of 64M, even if there's more
>......
Isn't this "feature" quite outdated now??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (anonymous)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:54:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting,
Chris Gonnerman writes:
>
> Maybe me. I posted a patch to the GNOME Bug List at
> http://bugs.gnome.org/db/42/4290.html to fix this.
>
At first thanks for help, but unfortunately the patch fails and
everythings like before with gdm.
When patching i get following errors:
patching file gdmmisc.c
Hunk #2 FAILED at 264.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 296.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 424 with fuzz 2.
2 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file gdmmisc.c.rej
patching file gdmserver.c
patching file gdmslave.c
patch: **** malformed patch at line 155: GdmUserId);
Compiling gives many output but this at last:
gdmmisc.o: In function `gdm_exec_script':
/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src/gdmmisc.c:267: undefined reference to `gdm_putenv'
gdmmisc.o: In function `gdm_exec_command':
/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src/gdmmisc.c:299: undefined reference to `gdm_putenv'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [gdmgreeter] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
I hope you can get a sense from these error-messages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Linux fails with SMP kernel......What the @#$^%&@
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:17:30 GMT
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:54:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I had RH6.0 running SMP kernel == no problem at all. I "upgraded" to
>RH6.1 and it put an SMP kernel by default in /boot. I tried that kernel
>== big problem. I recompile another SMP kernel with no errors == same
>problem.
>
>I get an oops=2 and an "Unable to handle kernel paging request at
>virtual address 0xffffd000" followed by a bunch of stack traces and
>dump of memory.
>
>I was running fine before the upgrade, what happened????Mister RedHat???
>
>The MB is an ALR P5 dual P5@133 MHz with 32 MB of RAM 2 SCSI adapters,
>1 onboard and one in EISA slot. 2 NIC, 1 3c90x and 1 DEC21040 PCI.
I have no idea what this is, but I am running RH6.1 SMP with various
kernels with no problems of this nature. There are quite a few SMP fixes
in 2.2.14, and a few in 2.2.15pre. You might give one of those a go.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Upgrading a server over the network.
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:06:12 GMT
> So what I am wondering is... is an rpm upgrade of glibc in full
> multiuser mode safe? Can I count on it not crashing the system? :)
>
I wonder if it's possible to copy the new version of glibc on there and
then link the old one to it. The problem there is that there's still no
guarantee that the file will not be in use when you perform the swap.
Could you use cron to perform the upgrade overnight or at some other
quiet time? To safeguard against problems you could use shutdown to
change to single user mode and then back again. Or maybe you don't have
the option to shutdown at all...
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From: Dimitris Terzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Controlling a modem (TAPI?)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:14:58 GMT
Hi guys...
I am trying to figure out what is the best (easier/fastest) way of
controlling a modem from a Linux application. I have a Linux box and
want to make it establish a dialup connection with a remote Windows NT
machine, so that the two can thenafter communicate via standard TCP/IP
sockets.
The way I see it, I need to use a telephony API on my Linux box, which
means that, other than a few API calls, everything should be
transparent (i.e., as if the Linux and WinNT machines were on a LAN).
Is this a valid assumption? Could someone please give me an idea
(sample code, or just the libraries I should use) as to how this can be
done efficiently?
Thanks,
Dimitris
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From: Stefan Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: viewer for postscript files
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:19:35 +0100
Hallo,
I use the latest version of gv as viewer for postscript files. When I
want to jump to a special page I always walk thru the whole document
side by side (Page ==> Next). So my question is if there exists
something like "go five pages forward" in gv or if there is probably a
better viewer making a walk thru a document more comfortable?
thx Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: top (or other) for SMP?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:22:53 GMT
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:46:46 +0200, Ruediger Otte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article top (or other) for SMP?,
> David Topper writes:
>
>> I can do a cat /proc/cpu and see my CPUs ... but top doesn't seem to
>> report usage as such. How can I monitor the load on each? I remember
>> top on an SMP Solaris box reporting stats for each CPU.
>>
>> Are there some other utils I can use?
>
>You heard about XOsview ? It gives graphical information about
>System-Load, Usage of each CPU, Memory Usage etc. This package should
>come with most Linux-Distributions.
12:18pm up 10 days, 13:51, 39 users, load average: 0.06, 0.08, 0.05
74 processes: 72 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 0.6% user, 3.0% system, 0.0% nice, 96.2% idle
CPU0 states: 1.0% user, 2.3% system, 0.0% nice, 96.0% idle
CPU1 states: 0.1% user, 3.1% system, 0.0% nice, 96.2% idle
Mem: 128080K av, 120276K used, 7804K free, 60856K shrd, 6024K buff
Swap: 64224K av, 3880K used, 60344K free 17820K cached
There is an SMP patch for procps (contains top). Try these (I forget
which one has the patch):
http://www.cs.inf.ethz.ch/~rauch/procps.htm
http://queenbee.fhcrc.org/~warnes/procps/
I also have 686 RPM and src.rpm if someone would like them emailed to
them. Note that I kinda question how reliable this is. Just my
opinion...
--
Hal B
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From: "Steve Cowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please.
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:36:22 GMT
What is the value of FORWARD_IPV4 in your /etc/sysconfig/network file???
e.g. Is IP forwarding enabled?
It needs to be set to FORWARD_IPV4="yes" to forward IP packets from one
interface to another.
Steve Cowles
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting win95 partition
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:14:03 -0600
adam wrote:
>
> can somebody tell me the command to mount a win partition to view in LINUX?
> I can type: "MOUNT /DEV/HDA1 /MNT", and I get: "success, YOU MUST SELECT
> A FILE SYSTEM!". I would realy like to know how to select file systems.
> any help would be appritiated.
> ADAM
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
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First you probably don't want to mount it on /mnt since
that very likely contains the subdirectories /mnt/floppy
and /mnt/cdrom and these would be hidden under anything
you mounted on /mnt. So create a mount point with something
like
mkdir /win
Then use
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt
I would be extremely surprised if any of this were in upper
case under Linux.
You might also want to put an entry in /etc/fstab of the form
/dev/hda1 /win vfat defaults 1 2
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Andrew Arrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recursive grep?
Date: 01 Mar 2000 12:43:37 EST
Is there anyway to grep for a a specific strings recursively throughout an
entire directory and all it's sub-directories?
$ grep "stringIwant" *.*
But I want more than just *.*, I want all the files in every sub-directory
too.
Thanks
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From: jigga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gentus Linux - BE6
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:30:30 GMT
I have downloaded this iso image and copied to CD. While trying to
install the program stops when it is probing my hardware. I think it
stops when it gets to IDE2 where my hard drive is. Anybody have
suggestions on how to get this to work?
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: $1.95 CDs - unstable version??????
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:24:53 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I obtained $1.95 CD and it seems that it is the unstable version of tha
> t distribution?
>
> Does these low priced CDs contain unstable version? I don't know if my
> assumption is correct as I am a newbie and fiddling with Linux (never
> went beyond installation :) )
>
> Please post your feedback. Thanks a bunch.
>
> - Inon
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
As far as RedHat distributions are concerned, I believe the
cheap CDs are exactly what you would get by downloading
the iso version of the distribution and burning your own
CD. They shouldn't be beta or development versions of
the distribution. But of course, any given CD, no matter
where you got it, may be defective.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing Lilo?
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:26:25 -0600
jdn wrote:
>
> I have a box which I want to triple-boot with DOS, Linux, and Solaris.
>
> Originally, it had DOS. Linux was then installed using all remaining
> available disk space on the first disk (two 4 GB hard drives installed).
> Solaris 8, for reasons unknown to man, requires space on first disk to
> install. So, Linux was removed. However, Lilo was not removed properly, so
> it always starts on boot. Typing DOS at boot prompt does properly boot into
> DOS, but I'd like to remove Lilo completely, so that it will boot straight
> into DOS. Then, I'll install Solaris. Then, I'll install Linux and
> configure it so it will boot into any of the three (I know how to do this
> with NT's boot loader, never tried it with Lilo, but I'll cross that bridge
> when I get there).
>
> Question is, how do I remove Lilo? I read a HowTo page off of Linux.com,
> but the options described there don't seem to work. Running fdisk /mbr when
> booted into RedHat Linux 6.1 (Gnome Workstation install) doesn't work.
> Since Linux was uninstalled improperly (e.g. "operator error"), I don't have
> a file in the requisite subdirectory of /boot to dd back. Format /s from
> DOS doesn't work.
>
> Sorry if this is obvious, but I'm clueless on what to do here. Any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Since this newsgroup is busy, any
> replies to my e-mail (kingcrim at earthlink dot net) are fine as well.
>
> TIA
>
> jdn
Without reading your entire discussion, let me suggest booting from
a DOS/Windows floppy and running
fdisk/mbr
This should remove the lilo boot loader from the master boot
record and set it at the default for a PC hard disk.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Jordan Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zipdrive backup problem
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:52:08 GMT
I'm a total Linux newbie (only been in it for a few months), but could it be
possible that since you've got a DOS format on the ZIP disks, the filenames
could not be
stored correctly? If I had this problem, I'd try doing the same thing with
an ext2
formatted ZIP disk...
Just a thought..?
Ben Marriage wrote:
> Allin Cottrell wrote:
> >
> > I've been in the habit of backing up my system to DOS-formatted
> > 100MB zipdisks in a parallel-port zipdrive: tar up chunks, gzip
> > them, and copy the files to /mnt/zip. This worked fine for
> > quite a long time, but recently I've run into a problem: for
> > many of the archive files on the zipdrive, tar or gzip now
> > complains they're corrupt when I try to read them back. I'd
> > suspect a bad disk, but this has happened with all 4 of the
> > disks I'm using.
> >
> > Anyone seen anything similar, or have any idea what might be
> > going on?
> >
>
> I've been having problems writing to my zip disks too.
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip
>
> can read from the disks fine, but any writing ends up corrupt. No idea
> what the problem is, but I was going to post a query to a newsgroup too!
>
> Hope somebody else can help?
>
> Ben
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- Jordan Erickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Network Support Representative, Bank of Petaluma
(My views are not necessarily the views of Bank of Petaluma)
P.S. My e-mail is altered to rid my mailbox of bot junkmail. You can
figure it out.
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Subject: Re: recursive grep?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:52:12 GMT
"Andrew Arrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there anyway to grep for a a specific strings recursively throughout an
> entire directory and all it's sub-directories?
>
> $ grep "stringIwant" *.*
>
> But I want more than just *.*, I want all the files in every sub-directory
> too.
grep -r "StringIwant" *
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: That slow boot sendmail problem
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:49:33 -0500
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've got two computers netwoked together. One of them is running Win 98
>and the other runs Linux (Red Hat 6.1).
>When I bootup the Linux computer and it starts up the various tasks, it
>seems to take about a minute or so to get past the sendmail task. Is
>this normal?
>My Linux computer is an AMDK6-2-500Hz with 128 megabytes of RAM,
DNS lookup failure of your machine's hostname.
You can get this to work quicker by putting an IP for your hostname in
/etc/hosts. If like me, your hostname is a ppp IP that is not
necessarily
connected, you can use any of the loopback IP's like 127.0.0.2. I used
to
use 0.0.0.0, but RH 6.1 doesn't seem to like that. This also allows you
to access your webserver by your hostname, even when offline.
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From: Simon E. John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kppp Connect locks up other apps
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:14:14 +0000 (GMT)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > > Never had this problem with RH and Mandrake distributions, but when
> > > using the kernel for RH 6.1 or Mandrake 6.1, an internet connection
> > > with Kppp prevents any other apps from launching until I'm disconnected
> > > from the internet. It must be something simple, but can't pinpoint.
> > > Driving me nuts. Please help anyone?
> > There is a FAQ question in kde help/kpp for just this problem.
> > You may have 'auto-configure hostname' selected in the options.
> > There is a RH specific problem with the ip-up script mentioned also.
> Hi. I have looked for the FAQ you mention and I cannot find it. Would
> you post a link for it? Thanks.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a look at that too. I have exactly the same problem, I
found that kppp was killing kfm so no icons would work. I'm now using a
different pppd frontend which fixes it so I guess kppp is knackered.
--
Simon E. John, BA(Hons), DipM
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.suit-u-sir.com
If you throw a cat out of a car window does it become kitty litter?
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From: Trygve Selmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,han.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please.
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:59:40 +0100
Thorsten Hilker wrote:
>
> [root@fuka2 moshing]# route
> Kernel IP Routentabelle
> Ziel Router Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 192.168.10.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0
> 192.168.1.10 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.20.0 Fuka3 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.10.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
>
> [root@fuka3 moshing]# route
> Kernel IP Routentabelle
> Ziel Router Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 192.168.1.20 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.20.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0
> 192.168.20.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.10.0 fuka2 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
Verify that
fuka2 translate to 192.168.1.10 (route add -net 192.168.10.0 gw
192.168.1.10)
fuka3 translate to 192.168.1.20 (route add -net 192.168.20.0 gw
192.168.1.20)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glibc upgrade
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:06:36 GMT
In article <89jgkv$1im$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M
Klein) wrote:
> I have an intel 486-66 machine with rehat 5.2. I would like to upgrade
> my glibc-2.0.7-29 to glibc-2.1.2-*. Where can I download the rpms for
> this. Since I am a newbie is there anything more that I should consider
> besides a simple rpm -U. Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave
My advice is DO NOT do it! It's very easy to hose your whole system
if you try to upgrade glibc. Many other programs, especially those
written in C++, are going to break. You should do a complete upgrade
from a newer version of redhat distribution cdrom.
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