Linux-Misc Digest #383, Volume #25                Tue, 8 Aug 00 14:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: "Turbo" and X-windows.
  Re: initrd - necessary? (Robert Heller)
  Kernel compile fails early at main.c (Adam Williams)
  Re: Question for RIGHTS on /dev/ttyS2 after a new getty/mgetty/uugetty --- IMPORTANT 
!!! (Villy Kruse)
  /proc/mdstat on RedHat 6.2 ("Jean-Marc Counet")
  Re: SAMBA password problem ("Gerald Pollack")
  Re: !!! Kenrnel message !!! (Rasputin)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  windows and LINUX (tell_me)
  cOREL LINUX iNSTALLATION (harshad)
  Re: mgetty: prevent answering ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel compile fails early at main.c (Rasputin)
  Re: psychology of linux (The Darkener)
  Re: /usr/sbin/nscd (David Steuber)
  Tekram DC315U/ide-scsi emulation (2 unrelated questions) ("Ninewands")
  Re: !!! Kenrnel message !!! (Troutman)
  samba users and passwords (mike davis)
  Re: Tekram DC315U/ide-scsi emulation (2 unrelated questions) (Dances With Crows)
  alternating between networking settings (Peter Bismuti)

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "Turbo" and X-windows.
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:12:50 -0400

Doesn't the manual say that this is for their "testing" purposes ?

When a system is certified "reliable" at say 100 mhz, then there is room to
go +/- either way, . Turbo over clocks the MB.  Unless your memory is up to
it, don't do it.
And also check out the PCI and the isa clock dividers etc.

Altering this will give you enough of a change to brag about, but not at all
noticeable.
Unless of course, your system hangs!Windows benchmarks show a few "points"
of change, but it's not worth the risk .

Some pci devices react rather badly to overclocked pci busses, so be
careful. i have heard that overclocking resulted in trashed filesystems, but
your mileage may vary.

X Windows may or may not work depending on how the VC handles out of spec
environs.

My only experience with odd stuff like this was on a comp.with a vl bus,
that kept seg faulting because it was over clocked. Also win95 's explorer
would crash as soon as it loaded .


Unlike when I went around messing with the system, I hope you have a backup
:)

Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Linux users!
> Was browsing through Award BIOS setup on motherboard that I intended to
> buy when I came to "Ctrl+Alt+ +/-" as a way to
> change the "Turbo" status.
> OK I know this from past, but to find it on mobo which boasts 112M bus
> clock was a little odd.
> Anyway, how would this affect the changing of resolution in X-windows
> and what will respond to it - mobo speed or screen or both?
> Thanks for answers...
> --
>     Stanislaw on Slak 7.1
> Registered on Linux counter No.162760.
> Even put Ulladulla on their database.



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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: initrd - necessary?
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 15:12:38 GMT

  Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on 8 Aug 2000 14:59:17 GMT, wrote :

CK> What is the initrd for?

Generally for driver modules that need to be loaded *before* the root
file system is mounted -- generally this is for systems with SCSI hard
disks, since virtually all of the SCSI drivers are built as modules,
rather than as part of the base kernel.  The basic IDE drivers are
compiled into the base kernel, but I don't know about the DMA 66 drivers.

CK> 
CK> How is it generated?

With the 'mkinitrd' command.  Do a 'man mkinitrd' for complete
information. 

CK> 
CK> 
CK> 
CK> -- 
CK> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CK>                                                                                   






                             
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From: Adam Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Kernel compile fails early at main.c
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 11:20:22 -0400

Hello all,


    I recently upgraded from RH 6.0 to 6.2 and am tying to recompile the
kernel. The reason is that I had been having printing problems and
learned thatinexplicably
printer support had been disabled in the kernel. Once I re-enabled it, I
attempted to recompile but got the following error:

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
-malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
init/main.c: In function "start_kernel':
init/main.c:1273: too few arguments to functon 'dcache_init'
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1

This is the first "step" in the compilation process, but doesn't get
past it. I run a pentium 120 w/ 64 megs of RAM and a relatively full 1.2
Gig HD. I would imagine that something else was changed in the kernel
configuration that I'm not aware of that's bringing this on.  On a
separate note, I was also wondering how to clean up my HD so that I can
get rid of unneeded stuff that may have been left over since the
upgrade. I have virtually NO data on the HD besides what's been put
there by the RH
installation CD's, but instead of taking up only ~ 800 MB of space, the
system now takes up around a GB or so. I would appreciate any
ideas.Thanks in advance.

Adam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Question for RIGHTS on /dev/ttyS2 after a new getty/mgetty/uugetty --- 
IMPORTANT !!!
Date: 8 Aug 2000 15:41:00 GMT

On 8 Aug 2000 09:22:15 GMT, Jan Stolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>How do I get the rights to "crwxrwxrwx" or set the user to "uucp" on device
>/dev/ttyS2 automaticly every time a new getty/mgetty/uugetty is initialized
>???
>



Not with uugetty.  Take a look at mgetty instead.

uugetty seems to work properly only if you use the cua device for dialing
out.



Villy

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From: "Jean-Marc Counet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /proc/mdstat on RedHat 6.2
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:11:53 +0200

Hi !
Can someone tell me how I can understand this /proc/mdstat file ?

Personalities : [raid0] [raid1]
read_ahead 1024 sectors
md0 : active raid1 hdb1[1] hda1[0] 15936 blocks [2/2] [UU]
md3 : active raid1 hdb5[2] hda5[1] 5245120 blocks [2/1] [_U] recovery=92%
finish
=2.8min
md5 : active raid0 hdb6[1] hda6[0] 8401792 blocks 64k chunks
md1 : active raid1 hdb7[2] hda7[0] 2104384 blocks [2/1] [U_]
unused devices: <none>


What means [1] behind hdb1 ?   [0] behind hda1 ?  [2] behind hdb5 ?
What means [2/1]  behind 5245120 blocks ?
What means [_U] or [U_] at the end of the lines.

I guess it gives the state of the array partitions... How ?

Thanks !!!

Jean-Marc

======================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Gerald Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA password problem
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:19:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) wrote:
> Hello All!
> 
> I'm trying to setup SAMBA so that I can access some of my files under a
> Win'98 system as a shared drive, but am running into a problem. Every
> time I try to access my computer from the Win'98 system it tells me I
> need a password for
> \\BLACKDEATH\IPC$ and I have NO IDEA what to tell it!
> 
> I've tried my own password, the password I've entered as my Samba
> password with smbpasswd (both the same PW), but it doesn't work.
> 
> What do I need to do to be able to atleast LOOK at the available shares?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 

This may be a problem of password encryption. I've forgotten the
specifics, but I remember that I had to change something in Win98's 
registry to turn off password encryption. Sorry to be so vague, but 
perhaps this will at least give you some ideas for keywords for a 
search on dejanews. 
-- 
G. Pollack Dept. of Biology, McGill Univ.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: !!! Kenrnel message !!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:24:38 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Troutman> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fortis) graced us with the following:
>
>>Never ever do anything internet related while in root (it is just an
>>advice) Sorry, can't help with your question...
>>
>>Best regards
>>Fortis
>
>Ummm....why would that be exactly?  

Because then you're trusting userland applications not to be full of bugs.

Exhibit A: Netscape.

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Aug 2000 09:17:54 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > 
> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > 
> > > > The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
> > > > truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
> > > > them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).
> > > >
> > > If you are not the owner/creator of that object. Then, you have no right
> > > to sell, modify or do anything with it without the owner/creator's
> > > permission. Period.
> > 
> > but an idea is *not* an object.  period.
> > 
> Agree.
> 
> > why should an idea be owned?  can an idea be owned?  sometimes not.
> > e.g., mathematics cannot be patented or copyrighted.  the square root
> > of two is a concept free for anyone's taking -- yet it is created.
> 
> Please re-read my posts carefully. I said when the idea had became a
> tangible object/item. Then, that object, as based on the "once was only
> an idea" can then be owned.

is software tangible?  you cannot touch it.  the disk or medium it
came upon, yes.  but the software itself, no.  therefore, the answer
to my first question is -- no, by definition of tangible.

ideas like software differ from objects in that they have the copy
property.  you can copy and share an idea and not lose its intrisic
utility.  e.g., if i know how to solve a certain equation and explain
to you how to solve it, i do not lose my ability.  we both would have
it.

furthermore, ideas are often made *more* valuable by sharing.  e.g.,
if i know how to read and write english it helps to have many more
people who also know how to read and write english since they will
produce text in english for me to read.

this is different from objects.  if i loan you my car, i lose the use
of the car for as long as you have it.  you can copy the software on
the cd-rom, but not the cd-rom in and of itself.

because ideas act very differently from objects, i have a hard time
seeing why the law should treat them the same.  i don't understand why
the government should try to artificially force it into the mold of a
object when the closest they can come is a mercantilist patent or
license rather than a capitalistic commodity.

> An idea before being materialised cannot really be owned. I have to
> agree on that. Even it's debatable to a certain extents. I'm not a
> bonehead like some blind faith wroshipper of the GNU-GPL.

ad hominem will get you no where.  it's as worthless as your strawmen.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr

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From: tell_me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: windows and LINUX
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:30:00 GMT

I installed Linux on my Win98 machine to make it a dual boot. I am using 
LILO to boot my computer. Everything was working fine till I ran out of 
disk space on my win98 partition. I can't use Partition Magic or any other 
DOS utility to change partition size. The other option is I can reformat 
the hard drive and reinstall the OS's with the partion size I think shoul 
dbe okay.
Does anybody know how I can solve this problem? Or how can 
reformat/repartiton my hard drive because fdisk is not working anymore, 
for me?

thanks in advance.

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From: harshad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cOREL LINUX iNSTALLATION
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:30:00 GMT

I was installing Corel Linux 1.0. Selected the option of installing in Windows/DOS 
partition..
It started installing & partitioning but it got stuck at 10% for over 15 min so 
aborted the installation.
But now WIndows Explorer shows my DOS partition size as 900 MB less, 900 mB being the 
partition size i had specified for Coel Linux.
On trying the install procedure again.
Corel Linux could not detect the 900 MB partition...
How can i recover that space?
And is installing Corel Linux on my main partition safe? Why could it have been stuck 
at 10% for over 15 min?

My system:
Cyrix PR233
64 MB
Win98
IE 5

Thanking u,

HARSHAd

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mgetty: prevent answering
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:33:05 GMT

On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:57:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I'm using mgetty to answer and allow shell and ppp connections.  It's
>working fine, but I found out that another user on a different computer
>needs their modem to answer that same line.
>
>Is it possible to prevent mgetty from answering during certain times?

Can you add/remove execute permission from mgetty via cron?

Gord


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails early at main.c
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:58:04 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Adam Williams> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>
>    I recently upgraded from RH 6.0 to 6.2 and am tying to recompile the
>kernel. The reason is that I had been having printing problems and
>learned thatinexplicably
>printer support had been disabled in the kernel. Once I re-enabled it, I
>attempted to recompile but got the following error:

I heard you the first time ;)

>
>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include -Wall
>-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
>-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
>-malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
>init/main.c: In function "start_kernel':
>init/main.c:1273: too few arguments to functon 'dcache_init'
>make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
>
>This is the first "step" in the compilation process, but doesn't get
>past it.

No, 'make dep' is the first step. Have you done that?
List what steps you've taken so far...

> I run a pentium 120 w/ 64 megs of RAM and a relatively full 1.2
>Gig HD. I would imagine that something else was changed in the kernel
>configuration that I'm not aware of that's bringing this on. 

>On a separate note, I was also wondering how to clean up my HD so that I can
>get rid of unneeded stuff that may have been left over since the
>upgrade. I have virtually NO data on the HD besides what's been put
>there by the RH
>installation CD's, but instead of taking up only ~ 800 MB of space, the
>system now takes up around a GB or so. I would appreciate any
>ideas.Thanks in advance.
>
>Adam

Ok, paste this into a file called '2hewge' (or whatever you like):

==========================================

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

## 2hewge: lists all installed RPMs with their sizes

## Rasputin , Aug 1999

## this code distributed with no warranty of any kind -
## - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces


@rpmlist = `rpm -qa`;

foreach $rpm (@rpmlist) {

$screen_of_crap = `rpm -qi $rpm`;
$screen_of_crap =~ m /Size\s+: ([0-9]+)/g;
print "$1   " . $rpm ;
}

==========================================

chmod +x it, and then run it like this:

./2hewge | sort -n

You'll get a list of all the installed RPMS,
along with their sizes (biggest at the bottom)

If it looks like you don't need any , "rpm -e" them out.

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: psychology of linux
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:59:03 GMT

Curiosity.  I've been around computers all my life, (I'm only 20 thou) and
ever since I saw the blue screen and READY on my dad's C=64, I've loved to
play.  One day (A long time later), a friend looked at the computer and said
"Wow, you have a computer!" I said "Yeah, I have some cool games for it" and
he said "Dude, you could like, hack into a bank with that!" (I was about
12)  This most likely jolted my curiosity by about 1000 with computers.
Ever since then, I've delved deep into the internals of computers and
software.

Of course, if I was a hardcore athlete, I'd be doing the same thing with
sports.

shawn wrote:

> greetings earthlings
>
> Ok, this is an obscure and hard to answer question, but i want to know
> what motivates the most hardcore geeks among us. what makes you go out
> and learn that new language, what makes you interested in learning new
> systems, networking, that type of thing. I really have trouble
> grasping/understanding a concept without knowing all the guts behind the
> curtain so to speak, so if you could give me any relevant information it
> would be appreciated.
>
> shawn

--
- The Darkener
"I believe I have opened up an entirely new form of research, which I like
 to call... Monkey Tourture"



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Subject: Re: /usr/sbin/nscd
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:00:02 GMT

Thanks for the info.  It looks like I don't need it.  I can always
turn it back on if I do.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up

The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
        --- Devon Miller

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From: "Ninewands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tekram DC315U/ide-scsi emulation (2 unrelated questions)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:20:44 -0500
Reply-To: "Ninewands" <newsgroup>

Greetings all,

I need some advice on getting a tekram DC-315/u scsi card to work with
Linux.  If anyone has specific experience with this card, I'd like to know
which version of Kurt's driver you are using.  I have downloaded 1.27 from
his website, but based on his warnings, I am a little bit hesitant to apply
the kernel patch to my already somewhat bowdlerized 2.2.5 SMP kernel and
recompile.  The only device on the SCSI bus (at this time, anyway ... so
many toys, so little money :-) ) will be my UMAX scanner, so I don't think I
run a terrible risk of "heavily loading" the bus.

I also have a question about ide-scsi emulation for my CDRW ... the burner
is an HP-6250iIDE driver which I would LIKE to use for more than a CD-ROM
under Linux.  My question is this ... I have two Western Digital Caviar IDE
hard drives on IDE0 and the CD-RW on IDE1 of my Abit BP-6 motherboard ... if
I enable ide-scsi emulation in the kernel, will it affect the hard drives
too, or does it only affect CD drives?  If it will affect the HDDs too, does
anyone know if the Caviars support scsi emulation?

Regards,
Ninewands



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Troutman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: !!! Kenrnel message !!!
Date: 8 Aug 2000 13:18:22 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin) graced us with the following:

>>Ummm....why would that be exactly?  
>
>Because then you're trusting userland applications not to be full of bugs.
>
>Exhibit A: Netscape.

Oh - you mean under X.  True.

-- 
___________________________________________

    Mike Troutman 
         http://www.troutman.org


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From: mike davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba users and passwords
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:29:57 GMT

Is there a way to copy our usernames and passwords from unix to samba's 
list.  We would like for samba to look into our unix list instead of just 
copying the list into sama

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Tekram DC315U/ide-scsi emulation (2 unrelated questions)
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:50:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:20:44 -0500, Ninewands wrote:
>I also have a question about ide-scsi emulation for my CDRW ... the burner
>is an HP-6250iIDE driver which I would LIKE to use for more than a CD-ROM
>under Linux.  My question is this ... I have two Western Digital Caviar IDE
>hard drives on IDE0 and the CD-RW on IDE1 of my Abit BP-6 motherboard ... if
>I enable ide-scsi emulation in the kernel, will it affect the hard drives
>too, or does it only affect CD drives?  If it will affect the HDDs too, does
>anyone know if the Caviars support scsi emulation?

IDE-SCSI emulation is generally enabled on a per-controller basis
(possibly per-drive, but that sometimes doesn't work.)  Once you've put
the requisite stuff in the kernel (IDE-SCSI emulation, SCSI support,
SCSI CD-ROM support, and SCSI Generic support) you must put
"hd[cd]=ide-scsi" in the kernel command line with an append= statement
in /etc/lilo.conf to prevent the IDE drivers from grabbing the CD-RW.
Your IDE hard drives on controller 0 will not be affected, but the other
IDE device on controller 1 may be affected.  All IDE devices should work
just fine under SCSI emulation; some people even report that internal
ZIP drives work better under SCSI emulation.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: alternating between networking settings
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:52:41 GMT



I have a laptop, at home and work I have different network settings.
I'm tired of having to go into netconf (etc) and changing the settings
by hand.  Is there any way of doing this automatically?  

I could write a Perl script, but I'm a little unclear on which files
need to be altered, scripts need to be run, etc.

Anyone figured this out?

Thanks

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