Linux-Misc Digest #400, Volume #25               Thu, 10 Aug 00 01:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: using pop3 instead of sendmail (Kichi Leung)
  Re: Flash Memory in PCMCIA card (Christopher Browne)
  Re: IBM offers COIN to OS community (Christopher Browne)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Couldn't open Netscape ("ywk@SuSE")
  Re: "Turbo" and X-windows. (Stanislaw Flatto)
  PHP on RedHat 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: init problem (Charles Stroom)
  Re: Modules in 2.4.0-test6 (Robert Lynch)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: DNS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: configuring networking. HELP! (not a newbie Q) (Peter Mitchell)
  Re: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms (Lawrence Houston)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)

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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using pop3 instead of sendmail
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:59:43 +0800

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Martin Terpstra wrote:
>hello,
>
>is it possible that Email on Linux is sent automattically to a POP3
>server instead
>it is sent out via sendmail ??

Yes.
Just configure your mail program (such as Netscape Messenger or kmail or...) to
send outgoing mail to a pop3 server. I don't know how to configure
console-based mail progs such as pine though.

This was how I did it, and as a newbie I don't even know a thing about
sendmail. =)


--
=====
Kichi Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Flash Memory in PCMCIA card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:10:18 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Asquith would say:
>All,
>I have just bought a Kodak digital camera and want to download photos onto
>my dual boot laptop.  The FlashMemory=>PCMCIA card works great and I am
>coping the photos to windows partition and then rebooting and running mount
>to get the photos copied to linux.  However, I want to mount the flash
>memory and copy on linux only.  Can I mount the card directly?  Can someone
>hold my hand and help me learn a few things.  I have the 3.0.14 PCMCIA
>driver on Linux.

Give it a shot; I had good success mounting the PCMCIA-slotted
CF card on my laptop.

It then appears, pretending to be an IDE drive, as /dev/hde or /dev/hde1
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
(eq? 'truth 'beauty)  ; to avoid unassigned-var error, since compiled code
                      ; will pick up previous value to var set!-ed,
                      ; the unassigned object.
-- from BBN-CL's cl-parser.scm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,sci.op-research
Subject: Re: IBM offers COIN to OS community
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:10:40 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>IBM just released an interesting Open Source project called COIN,
>Common Optimization INterface, off its developerWorks site. Coin,
>developed by IBM mathematical optimization researchers, which basically
>helps developers write crasy mathmatical programs which can maximize
>everything from stock portfolio returns to taveling distance to
>whatever.
>
>http://www-4.ibm.com/software/developer/library/coin.html?
>open&l=201,t=gr,p=coin
>
>COIN is an experiment to promote open source in the operations research
>community. IBM is kicking off the experiment by establishing a
>repository for source code and opening software to initially populate
>the repository. The COIN team wants the community of users to
>contribute by developing new code, reviewing and testing existing code,
>and submitting and fixing bugs. The goal is to have project controlled
>by the community, rather than by the IBM researchers.

Way, way, cool.

IBM's OSL (Optimization Solutions & Library) is a very well regarded
set of OR code; if some of the same folk are working on COIN, this is
a Very Good Thing.  They claim that they weren't finding OSL sales to
be a substantial profit center, which is not a remarkable surprise.
They probably get more out of consulting and hardware sales, and while,
on the one hand, this shouldn't diminish those things, it may actually
be a _big_ net gain if it allows people to start using OR techniques
more widely.

The OR community historically tends to pass around code in "somewhat
open source" form, but generally with licensing that amounts to:
  "If you're an academic doing research, feel free to use this.  If you
  earn more than research grants from using it, Nope..."

The one problem with COIN at this point is that it does not appear
to include much in the way of the actual _solver_ code.  They talk
about a Primal/Dual Subgradient method to provide an _approximation_ of
Dantzig-Wolfe decomposition; I'd be interested in seeing if they offer
other forms of interior point methods or barrier methods that actually
seek to head to optimal solutions.  The last time I used Dantzig-Wolfe
decomposition, it did _not_ converge terribly well when it went along
with an approximate solution method...
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/or.html>
"Unfortunately, because the wicked sorcerers of Silikonn' Vahlli hated
freedom, they devised  clever signs and wonders to  achieve the mighty
Captive User Interface, also known as the Prison for Idiot Minds."
-- Michael Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:11:43 GMT

blowfish writes:
> So. You're hired hand for Debian.

No.  Debian hires no one.

> Or unofficial hired hand (or coder, if you prefer.) No?

No.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:05:35 GMT

blowfish writes:
> I sincerely hope that you have cashed in before it flopped.

Don't take the fact that I keep responding to you as a measure of my
intelligence.  I wouldn't be saying I made $25k if I hadn't already sold,
because I did not make any money until I did.  "Paper" profits are
imaginary profits.

BTW VA Linux seems to be at about 40 right now: a 33% gain on the IPO
price.  If I still held the stock I'd be quite happy with that.  VA Linux
has only "flopped" by the standards of the "dot-com" loons.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: "ywk@SuSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:32:44 -0700

Hi :inuxers
I am running SuSE 6.4 with netscape 4.72. The problem is Netscape
couldnot pop up on all my users' desktop. I have checked the settings,
nothing wrong! Just SuSE keeps writing a lock file to .netscape
directory that block the initialization of the browser, why? 
there is no problem on root
anything i can do about it please?

ywk

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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "Turbo" and X-windows.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:29:48 +0000

Florian Schmidt wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:12:30 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
 if i am wrong, i'd love to be corrected..
> 
> --
> Florian Schmidt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi there!
And yes you stand corrected. The whole point of my question was that I
remember using this command to "Turbo" my boxen. Many modern
motherboards don't have connection for turbo switch, or it is only for
decorative purposes like changing the numbers on 3 digit LED display, so
I was supprised to have this command available at all.
Have fun...

-- 
    Stanislaw on Slak 7.1
Registered on Linux counter No.162760.
Even put Ulladulla on their database.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PHP on RedHat 6.2
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:42:40 GMT

I am trying to get PHP running but I am stopped at the configure step.
I want to do the dynamic as a posed to the static install.  The
directions say to use the --with-apxs option but my system does not
have it anywhere.  I do have Pearl 5.0 loaded,  What am I doing wrong.

Thank you in advance for all your help
John Miller

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom)
Subject: Re: init problem
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:05:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:13:19 GMT, Prasanth A. Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom) writes:
>
>> I have upgraded my SuSE 6.1 with the patches available
>> from their download site and when I rebooted the machine
>> I am getting now (before the first login prompt) the
>> following message repeatedly:
>> 
>> fiume init: Id "mo" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>> 
>> With a "ctrl-c", I could kill that and I got indeed the
>> normal login prompt and everything seems to be running ok.
>> Does anyone know what the cause could be?
><snip>
>
>This 'respawning too fast' error generally means that an attempt by
>init to run that program failed so it kept trying again and again. So
>look in your file /etc/inittab and see if there is a line starting
>with 'mo'. I don't have such a line on my system so if you can't make
>sense of it, then followup with details.
>

Thanks, yes there is such line in the /etc/inittab:

        # fax getty (hylafax)
        mo:23:respawn:/usr/lib/fax/faxgetty /dev/ttyS1

However, the strange thing is that my inittab file is from 

-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         2679 Jul 13  1999 /etc/inittab

and, as this file has been modified by me on that date and is
under rcs control, I am sure it has not been modified since, I
checked that.  Actually, on that date the above line was added!
I think I have to read the manuals:-(


-- 
Charles Stroom

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url:   http://www.fiume.demon.nl/

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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modules in 2.4.0-test6
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:19:35 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

softrat` wrote:
> 
> Robert Lynch wrote:
> >
> > I've been trying to move from devel kernel 2.4.0-test5 to the
> <snip>
> > there a easier way, along the lines of depmod -a used to figure it all
> > out?
> 
> You probably need to update your package modutils. Documentation/Changes
> for kernel 2.4.0-test5 recommends version 2.3.10 or later. I am using
> version 2.3.14-1.
> --
> the softrat
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---
> Uncertain fortune is thoroughly mastered by the equity of the
> calculation.
> - Blaise Pascal

I have been looking on rpmfind, which only had ~ 2.3.11 which I was I
was using (and was later than recommended), but after reading your msg.
I found modutils version 2.3.14-1 at kernel.org.

Hopefully this will do the trick.

Thanks for the input.

Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:23:22 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > >
> > > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay. I agree that source codes are human readable.  But most real human
> > > > are not geeks or machineheads.
> > >
> > > Totally irrelevant.  Freedom of speech is not confined to speech
> > > understood only by the majority of people.
> > >
> > I would believe that machine codes are not speech to most real human.
> 
> Again, that's TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.  Source code in particular, and in
> many cases binary, is meaningful to people with the appropriate
> training.  Therefore it is a legitimate form of speech.
> 
Sorry. But I don't talk to machine of any kind.

Do you write a piece of source code, when you want to tell your
mother/wife/girlfriend/ something. Or do you just write to them in plain
English ( or whatever *human* language that you use.

Or do you compile your source code into binaries, then install it in a
machine, then your mother/wife/girlfriend/whoever can read what you want
to say?

> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> 
> Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DNS
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:21:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > No settings have been changed (except in an attempt to get it
working).
> > Killing Samba and restarting it doesn't help. Rebooting the
workstations
> > doesn't work. I even went back to a standard smb.conf file and
started
> > over.
>
> Post the [global] section of /etc/smb.conf.
> Also try "nmblookup -M -" and post the output.
>
> Stop Samba and shut down the Win9x machines. After every single
> one is down, bring them back up. They should be able to recognize
> each-other by their names. If not, there's another problem. (Be
> sure to bring them up and test them one at a time.)
>

Here is the [GLOBAL] section of my smb.conf file:

[global]

# workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name
    workgroup = RONINTECH

# server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
    server string = linux

# This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict
# connections to machines which are on your local network. The
# following example restricts access to two C class networks and
# the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see
# the smb.conf man page
;   hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127.

# if you want to automatically load your printer list rather
# than setting them up individually then you'll need this
    printcap name = /etc/printcap
    load printers = yes

# It should not be necessary to spell out the print system type unless
# yours is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include:
# bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx
;   printing = bsd

# Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to
/etc/passwd
# otherwise the user "nobody" is used
;  guest account = pcguest

# this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
# that connects
    log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m

# Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb).
    max log size = 50

# Security mode. Most people will want user level security. See
# security_level.txt for details.
    security = user
# Use password server option only with security = server
;   password server = <NT-Server-Name>

# Password Level allows matching of _n_ characters of the password for
# all combinations of upper and lower case.
;  password level = 8
;  username level = 8

# You may wish to use password encryption. Please read
# ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation.
# Do not enable this option unless you have read those documents
  encrypt passwords = yes
;  smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd

# The following are needed to allow password changing from Windows to
# update the Linux sytsem password also.
# NOTE: Use these with 'encrypt passwords' and 'smb passwd file' above.
# NOTE2: You do NOT need these to allow workstations to change only
#        the encrypted SMB passwords. They allow the Unix password
#        to be kept in sync with the SMB password.
;  unix password sync = Yes
;  passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
;  passwd chat = *New*UNIX*password* %n\n *ReType*new*UNIX*password*
%n\n *passwd:*all*authentication*tokens*updated*successfully*

# Unix users can map to different SMB User names
;  username map = /etc/smbusers

# Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration
# on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name
# of the machine that is connecting
;   include = /etc/smb.conf.%m

# Most people will find that this option gives better performance.
# See speed.txt and the manual pages for details
    socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

# Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces
# If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them
# here. See the man page for details.
   interfaces = 192.168.1.1

# Configure remote browse list synchronisation here
#  request announcement to, or browse list sync from:
#       a specific host or from / to a whole subnet (see below)
;   remote browse sync = 192.168.3.25 192.168.5.255
# Cause this host to announce itself to local subnets here
   remote announce = 192.168.1.1

# Browser Control Options:
# set local master to no if you don't want Samba to become a master
# browser on your network. Otherwise the normal election rules apply
   local master = yes

# OS Level determines the precedence of this server in master browser
# elections. The default value should be reasonable
;   os level = 33

# Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master Browser. This
# allows Samba to collate browse lists between subnets. Don't use this
# if you already have a Windows NT domain controller doing this job
    domain master = yes

# Preferred Master causes Samba to force a local browser election on
startup
# and gives it a slightly higher chance of winning the election
    preferred master = yes

# Use only if you have an NT server on your network that has been
# configured at install time to be a primary domain controller.
;   domain controller = <NT-Domain-Controller-SMBName>

# Enable this if you want Samba to be a domain logon server for
# Windows95 workstations.
    domain logons = yes

# if you enable domain logons then you may want a per-machine or
# per user logon script
# run a specific logon batch file per workstation (machine)
    logon script = %m.bat
# run a specific logon batch file per username
;   logon script = %U.bat

# Where to store roving profiles (only for Win95 and WinNT)
#        %L substitutes for this servers netbios name, %U is username
#        You must uncomment the [Profiles] share below
    logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U

# All NetBIOS names must be resolved to IP Addresses
# 'Name Resolve Order' allows the named resolution mechanism to be
specified
# the default order is "host lmhosts wins bcast". "host" means use the
unix
# system gethostbyname() function call that will use either /etc/hosts
OR
# DNS or NIS depending on the settings of /etc/host.config,
/etc/nsswitch.conf
# and the /etc/resolv.conf file. "host" therefore is system
configuration
# dependant. This parameter is most often of use to prevent DNS lookups
# in order to resolve NetBIOS names to IP Addresses. Use with care!
# The example below excludes use of name resolution for machines that
are NOT
# on the local network segment
# - OR - are not deliberately to be known via lmhosts or via WINS.
; name resolve order = wins lmhosts bcast

# Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
# WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable it's WINS
Server
    wins support = yes

# WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client
#       Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT
both
;   wins server = w.x.y.z

# WINS Proxy - Tells Samba to answer name resolution queries on
# behalf of a non WINS capable client, for this to work there must be
# at least one  WINS Server on the network. The default is NO.
;   wins proxy = yes

# DNS Proxy - tells Samba whether or not to try to resolve NetBIOS names
# via DNS nslookups. The built-in default for versions 1.9.17 is yes,
# this has been changed in version 1.9.18 to no.
    dns proxy = no
    unix password sync = no
    comment = linux
    netbios name = linux
    encrypt passwords = yes
    map to guest = never
    password level = 0
    null passwords = no
    os level = 0
    preferred master = yes
    domain master = yes
    wins support = yes
    dead time = 0
    debug level = 0
    domain logons = no
    name resolve order = lmhosts, host, wins, bcast
    add user script = /usr/sbin/adduser -s /bin/false -g popusers -c
"smb account %u" %u
    delete user script = /usr/sbin/deluser %u
    message command = /bin/mail -s 'Message from %f at %m' root < %s; rm
%s

# Case Preservation can be handy - system default is _no_
# NOTE: These can be set on a per share basis
;  preserve case = no
;  short preserve case = no
# Default case is normally upper case for all DOS files
;  default case = lower
# Be very careful with case sensitivity - it can break things!
;  case sensitive = no
_____________________________________________________________________

Here's the output of the "nmblokup -M -"

querying __MSBROWSE__ on 192.168.1.255
Packet send failed to 192.168.1.255(137) ERRNO=Operation not permitted
name_query failed to find name __MSBROWSE__

I may be showing a bit of ignorance here (can't learn without asking :),
but why would it be looking at 192.168.1.255?

Thanks,
-Sam


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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: configuring networking. HELP! (not a newbie Q)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:20:09 -0700

You could try using ifconfig to manually set your cards to
the addresses you want. I recommending browsing through /etc
and its subdirectories with mc or a similar program to find
out what is what.

Peter


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From: Lawrence Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:41:41 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:       After getting Linux 2.2.16 compiled and running, I've detected that
: the  driver for ATAPI CDROM drives isn't working properly. Actually,
: it's doing really bad.

:       At boot time, they are properly recognized and no error or warning
: message is produced. However, when the cdrom tray is ejected and close,
: the kernels yields a lot of error messages like the following:
: -----------------
: ATAPI device hdb:
:   Unknown Error Type: No sense data -- (Sense key=0x00)
:   No additional sense information -- (asc=0x00, ascq=0x00)
:   The failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" packet command was:
:   "1e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "    
: -----------------

:       It doesn't matter wether a CDRom is in the tray or not. The sequence of
: error messages always takes place. This is just the beginning. When
: forcing the mount of a cdrom, either through gitmount or direct mount
: commands, the system simple gets frozen. There is no way to recover it:
: neither keyboard, mouse, network or serial ports respond.

:       I've checked this problem in a number of different machines, Pentium,
: PII, and PIII, equipped with different ATAPI CDROM drives : (e.g.
: hdb: BCD 24XM CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive  
: hdb: ACER CD-767E/O, ATAPI CDROM drive 

NOT sure if our problems are related, but when my Red Hat 6.2 System runs
2.2.16 (tried -3, -8 & -12) I have problems accessing ATAPI CD-ROM
Drives from Guest OSs within a Virtual Machine (VMware 2.0.1/2.0.2)!
>From within the Guest OS Data CDs detect as Audio CDs and are unreadable,
then after existing the VM the same Data CD can NO longer be mounted
natively from Linux (when they could before the attempted access from within
the VM)??  The failed native linux accesses generate the following errors:

  kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
  kernel: 16:00: rw=0, want=33, limit=0
  kernel: dev 16:00 blksize=1024 blocknr=32 sector=64 size=1024 count=1
  kernel: isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=16:00, iso_blknum=16, block=32

Rebooting (or running 2.2.14) seems to be the only way to again be able
to mount Data CDs.  Unfortunately I still do NOT know if the problem
lies with 2.2.16 or VMware's access of the 2.2.16 ATAPI Driver?
I tried two different CD-ROM Drives in the same PII System, so I do
NOT believe it is a "problem" with the physical drives themselves!
Todate I have NOT received any replies to my posts on the VMware Newsgroups,
hence I do NOT know if I am alone with this "problem"?  Bothersome that any
application should be able to adversely the functioning of the ATAPI Driver
and that sequence of operations is determinant!!!  Especially curious since
2.2.16 is expected to be used in the upcoming Red Hat 7.0, so hopefully
this can be resolved!!!

-- 

Lawrence Houston  -  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:45:48 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> blowfish writes:
> > Where did the money that was paid to you by the Finnish government came
> > from!!!???
> 
> What's with this fixation on the Finnish government?
> 
No. I have no, nada, fixation on anything. You told me that the $25k
that you have received through contributing to Debian, came from the
Finnish government. 

But you guys keep denying the fact that that money came from taxes being
collected by the Finnish government.

So.  What gives!?

Where that money really came from? Or have they succeeded in growing
money on trees? 

> > ...your contribution to the GNU-GPL project through Debian.
> 
> The GNU project and Debian are two distinct, separate, and independent
> organizations.
> 
I know that.
Geez. You started to sound like an 80 years old wind bag...

> > What's wrong with propierty software trying to get the maximum amount of
> > returns as possible?
> 
> I'll bite: What?
> 
What's wrong with property software (or anything else that can be
copyrighted under international laws, for that matter.) use copyrights
as a protection tool, so they can be the only legal channel for that
particular product!?

No body is stopping you to create and sell something similar. As long as
there're enough differences between the two (or more) similar products.

Take the automobile as an example. They all have an engine, a
transmission, four wheels , a steering wheel, some seats, a body. And
each manufacturer holds their own patented designs and so on. But still,
there're still plenty of choices to choose from, as well as prices. You
can get a basic Yugo for a few thousands, to a basic  Honda Civic for a
few more thousands, all the way up to a Porsche Carerra-4, or a 12
cylinder Ferrari, or a Lambroghini (like the one Larry Augustine of
VA-Linux has got) for a few hundred thousands.

So. Propierty copyright/patent really don't interfere with a *true* free
market. Everyone has got its own audience/buyers. Whether you spend a
few thousand on a Yugo, or a few hundred thousands on a Ferrari. The
thing still has four round shape wheels and serve basically the same
functions. Right? Just very much different in style and bells and
whistles. Right?

Am I correct?

> > You, and those believe in GNU-GPL, and those who violated the copyrights
> > law, to make unauthorised copies of copyrighted works, are the only ones
> > that are allowed to make money. Right!?
> 
> Have you stopped beating your wife?

What!!!??? 

Have you been smoking with Billy again?
> 
> > Please try to spare me the Windoz comparision.
> 
> I don't make them: my only Windows experience is a couple of months of
> limited use for a project four years ago.  Microsoft's products don't
> interest me.

Me neither.

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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