Linux-Misc Digest #400, Volume #26 Sun, 26 Nov 00 15:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: New To Linux - Distributions ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: New To Linux - Distributions ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: Looking for good Embedded Linux board (Vlastimil Pohnetal)
Icp-Vortex 6518RS Scsi Controller, SuSE 7.0 (Julie Dunlop)
Re: ipchains vs. iptables for firewalls?? ("Ian Jones")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down (Roger)
Re: how to build linux under windows? (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Nov 2000 16:19:16 +0800
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
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> I am thinking about downloading and installing Linux for the first time. I
> am very familiar with Windows/DOS environments but from what I have
> heard/seen of Linux so far I have a feeling I am going to be pretty lost,
> but I think I would like to try it any way.
You should get a copy of RUNNING LINUX, 3rd Edition (O'Reilly,
publishers) or a similar, generic book on Linux that will give you an
overview, as well as details on installation, configuration and
administration.
Remember: Linux is not intended as a Windows replacement OS.
>
> I have found huge lists of Linux Distributions, and I am not sure which one
> to get. Bascially I use my computer for Windows based games (such as Red
> Alert 1/2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, C&C Tiberian Sun, and a few other
> DirectX and OpenGL based games) and the only application I use heavily is
> Microsoft Office 2000. Can I run these things in a particular Linux
> distribtion, if so which one?
If you're THAT tied into Windows software, Linux is not for you. It
can run some Windows software, but only by using a Windows emulator.
>
> I have an Athlon 700, 256 RAM, Geforce 2 GTS system as well.
In general, the newer the hardware, the more incompatibilities there
will be. However, if ALL your hardware is at least a year old, you
most likely will have no hardware problems when installing Linux.
>
> Can any one recommend a distribution for me? Prefereably one that is
> novice-medium level of "difficulty" too...
easyLinux -- www.easylinux.com or
Mandrake Linux -- www.mandrake.com
I would recommend against downloading. It takes too long. I got
several demo distros at computer shows for free or as magazine cover
disks. This way you're assured that the install will be without
download errors.
I considered Mandrake, Debian, Corel, Storm, and Caldera before
choosing Mandrake as the best "newbie" distro. However, I just got
"Easy" at the Comdex 2000 computer convention and it looks promising
for the "home" user. No conclusions as yet, but most of the
configurations and admin duties that up to now have had to done by
editing text files or running commands in a shell, are done in Easy
through a GUI interface. Makes it very easy!
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Patrick Bartek
NoLife Polymath Group
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Nov 2000 16:28:57 +0800
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
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> In article <ybiT5.13365$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I am thinking about downloading and installing Linux for the first time. I
> >am very familiar with Windows/DOS environments but from what I have
> >heard/seen of Linux so far I have a feeling I am going to be pretty lost,
> >but I think I would like to try it any way.
>
> I installed Linux for the first time about four years ago, cold, without
> having ever even met a Linux user. It was RedHat 4.2, but I have
> played around with Suse, Slackware, Mandrake, and am presently using
> Debian. Here is what I recommend.
>
> Purchase a CD. You can get them cheap from www.cheapbytes.com and other
> sources.
>
> Get a book. Now you can get books specific to distributions. Usually
> they have a CD, so if you look carefully you can get CD and book in one
> step.
>
> If you have Partition Magic, it may be a big help. I had it.
>
> I studied for about eight hours before attempting the install. It won't
> be wasted time. If you want to try skipping the studying, then I'd
> recommend Mandrake.
Only 8 hours? I read numerous Linux groups for several months, then 2
books (O'Reilly's LEARNING DEBIAN GNU/LINUX and RUNNING LINUX) as well
as half a dozen magazine articles and 3 or 4 HOWTOs before doing a
first install. Needless to say, I never attempt anything new without
being well prepared.
By the way, how's the old Gate City doing? Heard the fall colors
there were beautiful this year.
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Patrick Bartek
NoLife Polymath Group
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From: Vlastimil Pohnetal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.arch.embedded
Subject: Re: Looking for good Embedded Linux board
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:50:02 +0100
See mitePC-S or -F board (system) at
http://www.mite.cz/mitepc
http://www.mite.cz/emserver
or
http://www.mite.cz/miterouter
And EMJ Linux package at ftp server.
Best Regards
V. Pohnetal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mite.cz
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Ioi Lam wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a low-power Linux board, something equivalent to a cell
> phone or a Palm, in terms of power and performance characteristics. Any
> good recommendations? We need:
>
> + Good development env (incl OS and compiler support)
>
> + Easy to get started (i.e, not having to spend 10 hours to
> figure out "how do I download my binary image on the damn
> thing)
>
> + Serial I/O. Ethernet is desirable but not required
>
> + VGA out desirable but not required?
>
> Thanks in advance! Please CC your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Ioi
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From: Julie Dunlop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Icp-Vortex 6518RS Scsi Controller, SuSE 7.0
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:21:23 GMT
Hello.
I have a mess on my hands and I can't figure it out :(
I have an Asus P2B-F mb with PIII 800 mhz, 256Meg ram, IDE CDrom,
ICP-Vortex controller with a Raid 5 drive configured.
The system will *not* boot from the cdrom at all.
If I boot from the floppy, it finds the IDE cdrom just fine, I tell it
to load the module for the ICP-Vortex controller and it finds that
also. I then tell it to install the OS. It load the inital ram disk and
then stops end of story!!!
If I do the above proceedure without loading the ICP-Vocrtex controller
module, Yast runs but the install fails when it cannot find any hard
disks.
What is the controller doing to the system?
Thanks
lach
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From: "Ian Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: ipchains vs. iptables for firewalls??
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:18:54 -0800
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> I have seen a few articles talking about iptables as a replacement
> for ipchains for firewalling.
> Apparently this is a new feature (in the new kernel?) so I am
> wondering if there are any comparisons between them as regards
> functionality and ease-of-use?
> Also: is there any firewall howto around dealing with iptables?
There is no doubt that tables is far superior to chains in the
features department. You can do a lot more, but the learning curve is
a little higher too. There is documentation/HOWTOs in the netfilter
distribution and at http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org
The important point here is that netfilter(iptables) runs on a beta
kernel. Until 2.4 is official, I would stick with ipchains in a
production environment. Tables is cool, but it also can crash.
2.4test?? is better, but it can crash. Having said that, I am using
2.4 and netfilter :)
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From: Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:35:35 -0500
Chris Menzel wrote:
> I just upgraded from Mandrake 7.0 to to 7.2. Most everything is running
> fine (though it took *way* too much time and expertise to get it all
> going),
> except for one thing: it will not complete a shutdown. After shutting
> down processes it generates the message "INIT: No more processes in this
> runlevel" at which point the machine just sits there. I don't want to
> say the box is hung, because when I hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete the disk gets
> hit with something. The kernel *seems* to be waiting for something to
> timeout, but I've gone off to eat dinner while the wait was on, and the
> box was still immobilized when I returned. Moreoever, I have tried
> booting into linux single mode to see if it would happen with just a
> minimal set of drivers loaded. Sure enough, it still did.
>
> Any suggestions as to the cause of this behavior, and especially advice
> on how to track it down, would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Chris Menzel
>
try 'halt -p' or 'shutdown now'
the reason the upgrade takes a while is becuase rpm has to check for
dependancies and other options (have you ever done a rpm -U compared to a
rpm -i option?? you'll notice the -U takes a while but it keeps all of
your config files....most of the time)
be happy, my upgrade for 7.1 to 7.2 failed on 2 machines....although it was
no problem clean installing since i have a /home on a seperate partition
(keeps all of them desktop settings and user config files...so i'm not
crying one bit....just gotta re-config the nfs and local lan.
--
Created with Linux Mandrake 7.2!
www.linux-mandrake.com
(remove 'nospamfilter' in email to reply!)
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to build linux under windows?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:53:12 -0500
levi_al wrote:
>
> did anyone try this at home?
> is it possible at all?
If you have a GNU cc compiler that you can set up to cross-compile elf
binaries, and all the required libraries, I guess you could do it.
Much simpler to just boot up any old Linux or Unix system and compile
that way.
Do you really need to build under Windows?
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 2:50pm up 22:18, 3 users, load average: 2.13, 2.06, 2.01
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