Linux-Misc Digest #496, Volume #25 Sat, 19 Aug 00 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Linux Distribution ("Luc Van Bogaert")
Re: apache directory listings (Stan McCann)
Newbie question: Dont want to use ./ ("FREDRIK LINDSTRÖM")
RFC: DHCP vulerability? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: STTY and ERASE (Thomas Dickey)
Re: apache directory listings (David Steuber)
Re: What's better: MySQL or PostgreSQL (David Steuber)
Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died) ("Wingman442")
Re: Map Data and Software Development Kit (Robert Love)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: rec.music.filk,alt.2600,rec.humor
Subject: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:08:48 GMT
Microsoft Pie - To the tune of "American Pie" by Don McClean
=====================================================================
Rev. History
V1.0 - 05/2000 - Written by "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
=====================================================================
A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How my system used to run for months
And I knew when I went home at night
The enterprise would be alright
And, the users, they'd be happy for a while.
But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn't take one more step.
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about Win NT "5", (1)
But management made me take the ride
The day the servers died.
Say bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT(2) guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
Did you read the HCL(3)
And do you have faith in Gates above...
If press releases tell you so?
Do you believe in beta code,
Can patches save your mortal soul,
And can you afford to spend two hours on hold?
Well, I know the boss loves Microsoft
Cause he's buying up a pile of stock
But you know you'd love to say
just Where Bill should go today.
I was a former Unix Sys Admin
With an MCSE(4) and an NT pin
I had no clue how deep I was in
The day the servers died.
I started singin',
Say bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
Now for ten years we've been on our own
The desktop's bloated, the command line gone
But that's not how it used to be.
The box was fast and the OS(5) lean
No 3d saver on the console screen
Response times in the millisecond range
Oh, but while IT was looking down,
The VP(6) took their techie crown.
FT(7) went away
And PC's stole the day
What bosses read in PC Week(8)
Became the gospel for IT
and Windows was the strategy
the day the servers died
We were singing,
Say bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
Helter Skelter in the summer swelter.
NORAD(9) put NT in the fallout shelters
Eight miles high and falling fast.
A BSOD(10) dumped a silo's core
Sent fifty missiles through China's door
And launched another world war
When one more server died
The courts(11) were after Bill and crew
and Unix, once again, was cool
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`Cause Linux tried to take the field;
But Microsoft refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the servers died?
We started singing,
"bye-bye" to our system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
Oh, and there we were all in one hall,
Following 2000's siren call
With no time left to start again.
So come on: Bill be vague and Bill be Slick!
Come show us what makes 2K tick
Cause NT4 is crashing as you speak.
Oh, and as I watched Bill on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that Satan's spell.
They applauded four ohs uptime week(12)
and cheered at 2k's 3 month peak
"My Sun's (13) been up since '93"
but no one heard me cry
As the profits climbed high into the night
The Redmond campus grew beyond sight
I saw Bill laughing with delight
The day the Servers died
He was singing,
Say bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
(14)
I met a girl who wrote for Bill
And I asked if she had had her fill,
But she just smiled and turned away.
'cause Windows bought her house, you see
The code's unstable(15), but it's not free
It's IT job security
Whenever servers die
And in the streets the users screamed,
The admins cried, and managers dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The systems all were broken.
And the three men who had heard the call
Raymond, Stallman and Torvalds(16)
They'd tried to save us from the fall
The day the servers died.
But did we listen?
Say bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
They were singing,
bye-bye to your system uptime
Installed NT on the servers,
Now the servers are fried
And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
Gonna buy a new house with mine...
=======================================================================
Microsoft Pie - Copyright (C) 2000 "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
(http://www.psychokitty.com/~cujo)
This parody is free; you may redistribute it and/or modify it as long
as this copyright notice remains intact and you agree to abide by the
terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
Software Foundation. (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html);
========================================================================
(1) Before it was called Windows 2000, the media referred to the next
release as Windows NT 5.0
(2) Information Technology
(3) Hardware Compatibility List - A list of hardware that doesn't
instantly burst into flames when used with Microsoft products. Based on
comments and presentation materials from the Windows 2000 launch, this
means that if you're lucky, it'll run for a week without hanging up or
requiring a reboot under NT 4.0 or 3 months in a "clean room" scenario
under Win2K.
(4) Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer - A designation that certifies
that you either know your way around Microsoft products or that you
bought a set of Exam Cram guides and you're good at memory work.
Neither of which actually has anything to do with engineering.
(5) Operating system - In the "good old days", the core software which
provided a set of tools and interfaces to the hardware. The OS would
consume a fraction of the system resources and provide the bare
necessities required for the applications to have a common interface to
the hardware. Now it refers to a huge pile of unrelated applications
tied together seemingly at random to consume the greatest possible
percentage of memory and CPU while still providing the false hope of
usability.
(6) Vice President. ie: any senior manager that shouldn't be making
technology decisions, but feels empowered to do so.
(7) Fault Tolerant (system). A term that no longer has any meaning
outside of mainframes and some clustered environments. A system with
sufficient redundancy and fail-over capabilities that it can continue
running uninterrupted even when a major component fails. There is no
such thing as a FT system running Windows. There are "High
availability" (HA) Windows configurations, but this just means that if
one node dies, you lose your session and pick up again on another node.
(ie: Who cares if one of the twins dies? We've got a backup.) In an FT
environment, you wouldn't even notice the failure.
(8) "PC Week" is meant to encompass the entire gamut of publications
that managers somehow get their hands on during long business trips.
(search for "Management by In-Flight Magazine") PC Week is not, in and
of itself, a bad thing. It's just that these magazines dumb down the
technology far enough that managers believe themselves to be computer
literate and subsequently start making technology decisions without
understanding (or even caring about) the implications.
(9) North AmeRican Air Defence. NORAD isn't actually stupid enough to
trust Windows with anything beyond a game of Minesweeper or Solitaire.
This verse is just poetic license
(10) Blue Screen Of Death - The blue screen that indicates that Windows
has crashed. I've actually seen monitors on servers with the page fault
message burned into them (since the screen saver cuts in during normal
operations, but a Page Fault stays on-screen until reboot.)
(11) The US Department Of Justice declared Microsoft a Monopoly (no
kidding, Sherlock....you could have asked anyone in IT and you would
have found that out in a matter of minutes)
(12) This is not an exaggeration. At the Windows 2000 launch in Feb
2000, the audience actually applauded when Gates indicated the Windows
NT 4.0 ran (on average) for a week without a reboot. If IBM told
companies that they'd have to reboot their 370's every week, there'd be
hell to pay.
(13) It was actually a Pyramid, but Sun fit the cadence better. I've
had NCRs SUNs and AT&T 3B2 systems that have run literally for years
without ever *requiring* a reboot (excluding administrative reboots for
kernel tuning or to install new hardware)
(14) Yeah...I know it doesn't jive with the original song, but I wrote
it, liked it and then realized that it was the wrong verse. Tough. If
you don't like it, you're entitled to double your money back.
(15) See #12.
(16) I originally had Kernigan, Ritchie and Torvalds. But since the
Open Source movement and not Unix per se, is really the nail in
Microsoft's casket, I thought that I'd update it.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Luc Van Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:24:14 GMT
On 19 Aug 2000 15:05:28 GMT, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>You're wrong. That is a stupid question, So which do you think is the
>best motorcar?
For me, that would be the Mercedes S class. You see, that's all the
other guy was asking : some peoples opinion on what they think is the
best distribution....
I really can't see a reason for calling that a stupid question. Maybe
it's a meaningless question, but stupid ? No.
Luc Van Bogaert
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From: Stan McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.html
Subject: Re: apache directory listings
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:26:26 -0700
In your httpd.conf file, look at your <directory path> settings. Make
sure you have an Options Indexes line.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There must be something wrong with the default Redhat 6.2 Apache
> intallation. The /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file seems fine, but for
> some reason I can not get directory lisings.
>
> Apache is supposed to give a directory listing when there's no
> index.html in the directory. Yes, I did include the trailing slash, and
> yes, the directory has world-wide read permissions. I looked in mod_dir
> and mod_autoindex and I still don't understand why it doesn't work.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: "FREDRIK LINDSTRÖM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question: Dont want to use ./
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:27:31 +0200
Porting a Tcp/Ip router from OS/2 to Linux RedHat 6.2 that I have written in
C. After compiling and the linking I can only run the application if I use
./ before the pgm-name. Is there some way to change this so that I only need
to write "PGM-NAME" instead of "./PGM-NAME"?
Regards
/Fredrik
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RFC: DHCP vulerability?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:24:05 GMT
Is DHCP vulnerable to a DoS attack? If new leases are
acquired faster than the old ones expire wouldn't this
consume all available leases.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: 19 Aug 2000 17:32:53 GMT
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably true on hardcopy terminals, but he is going back even
>>> farther than that, to tape punches. The BS key would backspace
>>> the tape, the DEL key would punch all holes, thus deleting
>>> whatever had been punched previously.
>>
>>well, when I used paper tape, we didn't use rubouts anyway (I recall
>>a comment from someone who said a tape with a lot of rubouts had
>>caused one of our tty's to fail ;-). DEC used to distribute some
>>de-commented source that had rubouts where the comments used to
>>be -- but that's a different protocol.
> Could be that DEC didn't make a very good tape machines??? But
> Teletype equipment (model 15's and 28's for example) certainly
> didn't have any problems with it. Neither did 32's and 33's.
no - those werent' DEC equipment (when I said tty, I meant a brandname)
> But there was also another use for "rubouts" with paper tape:
> repairing and splicing tapes!
but spliced tapes wouldn't go through DEC's optical readers.
(iirc, we tried it a few times).
>>> (Regardless, on my terminal the key labeled "Backspace" most
>>
>>mine does:
^(a backspace)
>>
>>ymmv.
> Does it really? You must be actually using a real terminal, as
no - XFree86 xterm (on Linux). But it can switch between the two
styles (and has some provision for doing so automatically, on startup).
--
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.html
Subject: Re: apache directory listings
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:00:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' Hi,
'
' There must be something wrong with the default Redhat 6.2 Apache
' intallation. The /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file seems fine, but for
' some reason I can not get directory lisings.
'
' Apache is supposed to give a directory listing when there's no
' index.html in the directory. Yes, I did include the trailing slash, and
' yes, the directory has world-wide read permissions. I looked in mod_dir
' and mod_autoindex and I still don't understand why it doesn't work.
Do you have the following in your httpd.conf file anywhere:
<Directory "/path/to/docroot">
Options Indexes
...
</Directory>
?
You need Indexes turned on to enable indexes. You also need other
stuff for choosing the appropriate icons based on file type. Redhat
may have screwed that up too.
I have the SuSE 6.2 distro. I didn't install Apache from there. I
downloaded Apache 1.3.12 from www.apache.org and compiled it from
source. The default httpd.conf file generated from that provided
plenty of stuff to work from.
I also recomend the book "Professional Apache" by Peter Wainwright and
published by Wrox. Also, you can get assistance with Apache from the
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix news group. Posting questions there
will get you help, so long as you are specific enough.
--
David Steuber | "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member
NRA Member | of the NRA?" --- HUAC, 2004
Happiness is a SAAB Gripen <http://www.gripen.saab.se/> in the
garage, an FN-FAL in the safe, and an HK P7M8 on the hip.
------------------------------
Subject: Re: What's better: MySQL or PostgreSQL
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:00:03 GMT
Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Andy wrote:
' >
' > What DMBS do you consider better? MySQL or PostgreSQL?
' > I don't know which of these two I should use for my database. Which is more
' > powerful or userfriendly?
' >
' > Thank you for you opinion
'
' Depends on what you want to use a DBMS for.
' Need transaction tracking, inheritance, foreign keys, grant, alter
' table, (ie... fairly close to ansi92 compliance) then PostgreSQL is your
' choice.
' Want a light, fast DMBS that's easy to use, then MySQL.
I've choosen PostgreSQL for reasons listed by Jerry. I should note
that PHP, while it supports PostgreSQL, has better docs for MySQL.
This applies to most every Internet related subject I have seen.
However, PostgreSQL is supposed to be really improving in terms of
performance. I've got 7.0.2 downloaded, compiled, and installed.
>From the docs I've read so far, PostgreSQL isn't exactly a boat anchor
either. It may not be optimized for rapid read access the way MySQL
is, but it should be fast enough for my needs. I hope. I will be
playing with it very soon now.
Perhaps the one thing that killed MySQL for me was the lack of stored
procedures. Lack of transaction support was not a show stopper, but a
real discouraging omission. That said, Slashdot seems to do well with
MySQL.
--
David Steuber | "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member
NRA Member | of the NRA?" --- HUAC, 2004
Happiness is a SAAB Gripen <http://www.gripen.saab.se/> in the
garage, an FN-FAL in the safe, and an HK P7M8 on the hip.
------------------------------
From: "Wingman442" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.music.filk,alt.2600,rec.humor
Subject: Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:00:56 GMT
$5 to the first one to E-Mail me with an MP3 of this, that sounds like the
original voice....
--
0101011101101001011011100110011101101101
putting 220v through cat5 can be fun... just remember
to unplug your computer from the network before you
try it...
0110000101101110001101000011010000110010
Wingman442 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8nmeun$4io$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Microsoft Pie - To the tune of "American Pie" by Don McClean
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rev. History
> V1.0 - 05/2000 - Written by "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> A long, long time ago...
> I can still remember
> How my system used to run for months
> And I knew when I went home at night
> The enterprise would be alright
> And, the users, they'd be happy for a while.
>
> But February made me shiver
> With every paper I'd deliver.
> Bad news on the doorstep;
> I couldn't take one more step.
>
> I can't remember if I cried
> When I read about Win NT "5", (1)
> But management made me take the ride
> The day the servers died.
>
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT(2) guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Did you read the HCL(3)
> And do you have faith in Gates above...
> If press releases tell you so?
> Do you believe in beta code,
> Can patches save your mortal soul,
> And can you afford to spend two hours on hold?
>
> Well, I know the boss loves Microsoft
> Cause he's buying up a pile of stock
> But you know you'd love to say
> just Where Bill should go today.
>
> I was a former Unix Sys Admin
> With an MCSE(4) and an NT pin
> I had no clue how deep I was in
> The day the servers died.
>
> I started singin',
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Now for ten years we've been on our own
> The desktop's bloated, the command line gone
> But that's not how it used to be.
> The box was fast and the OS(5) lean
> No 3d saver on the console screen
> Response times in the millisecond range
>
> Oh, but while IT was looking down,
> The VP(6) took their techie crown.
> FT(7) went away
> And PC's stole the day
> What bosses read in PC Week(8)
> Became the gospel for IT
> and Windows was the strategy
> the day the servers died
>
> We were singing,
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Helter Skelter in the summer swelter.
> NORAD(9) put NT in the fallout shelters
> Eight miles high and falling fast.
> A BSOD(10) dumped a silo's core
> Sent fifty missiles through China's door
> And launched another world war
> When one more server died
>
> The courts(11) were after Bill and crew
> and Unix, once again, was cool
> We all got up to dance,
> Oh, but we never got the chance!
> `Cause Linux tried to take the field;
> But Microsoft refused to yield.
> Do you recall what was revealed
> The day the servers died?
>
> We started singing,
> "bye-bye" to our system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Oh, and there we were all in one hall,
> Following 2000's siren call
> With no time left to start again.
> So come on: Bill be vague and Bill be Slick!
> Come show us what makes 2K tick
> Cause NT4 is crashing as you speak.
>
> Oh, and as I watched Bill on the stage
> My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
> No angel born in hell
> Could break that Satan's spell.
> They applauded four ohs uptime week(12)
> and cheered at 2k's 3 month peak
> "My Sun's (13) been up since '93"
> but no one heard me cry
>
> As the profits climbed high into the night
> The Redmond campus grew beyond sight
> I saw Bill laughing with delight
> The day the Servers died
>
> He was singing,
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> (14)
> I met a girl who wrote for Bill
> And I asked if she had had her fill,
> But she just smiled and turned away.
> 'cause Windows bought her house, you see
> The code's unstable(15), but it's not free
> It's IT job security
> Whenever servers die
>
> And in the streets the users screamed,
> The admins cried, and managers dreamed.
> But not a word was spoken;
> The systems all were broken.
> And the three men who had heard the call
> Raymond, Stallman and Torvalds(16)
> They'd tried to save us from the fall
> The day the servers died.
>
> But did we listen?
>
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> They were singing,
> bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft Pie - Copyright (C) 2000 "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
> (http://www.psychokitty.com/~cujo)
> This parody is free; you may redistribute it and/or modify it as long
> as this copyright notice remains intact and you agree to abide by the
> terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
> Software Foundation. (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html);
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (1) Before it was called Windows 2000, the media referred to the next
> release as Windows NT 5.0
>
> (2) Information Technology
>
> (3) Hardware Compatibility List - A list of hardware that doesn't
> instantly burst into flames when used with Microsoft products. Based on
> comments and presentation materials from the Windows 2000 launch, this
> means that if you're lucky, it'll run for a week without hanging up or
> requiring a reboot under NT 4.0 or 3 months in a "clean room" scenario
> under Win2K.
>
> (4) Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer - A designation that certifies
> that you either know your way around Microsoft products or that you
> bought a set of Exam Cram guides and you're good at memory work.
> Neither of which actually has anything to do with engineering.
>
> (5) Operating system - In the "good old days", the core software which
> provided a set of tools and interfaces to the hardware. The OS would
> consume a fraction of the system resources and provide the bare
> necessities required for the applications to have a common interface to
> the hardware. Now it refers to a huge pile of unrelated applications
> tied together seemingly at random to consume the greatest possible
> percentage of memory and CPU while still providing the false hope of
> usability.
>
> (6) Vice President. ie: any senior manager that shouldn't be making
> technology decisions, but feels empowered to do so.
>
> (7) Fault Tolerant (system). A term that no longer has any meaning
> outside of mainframes and some clustered environments. A system with
> sufficient redundancy and fail-over capabilities that it can continue
> running uninterrupted even when a major component fails. There is no
> such thing as a FT system running Windows. There are "High
> availability" (HA) Windows configurations, but this just means that if
> one node dies, you lose your session and pick up again on another node.
> (ie: Who cares if one of the twins dies? We've got a backup.) In an FT
> environment, you wouldn't even notice the failure.
>
> (8) "PC Week" is meant to encompass the entire gamut of publications
> that managers somehow get their hands on during long business trips.
> (search for "Management by In-Flight Magazine") PC Week is not, in and
> of itself, a bad thing. It's just that these magazines dumb down the
> technology far enough that managers believe themselves to be computer
> literate and subsequently start making technology decisions without
> understanding (or even caring about) the implications.
>
> (9) North AmeRican Air Defence. NORAD isn't actually stupid enough to
> trust Windows with anything beyond a game of Minesweeper or Solitaire.
> This verse is just poetic license
>
> (10) Blue Screen Of Death - The blue screen that indicates that Windows
> has crashed. I've actually seen monitors on servers with the page fault
> message burned into them (since the screen saver cuts in during normal
> operations, but a Page Fault stays on-screen until reboot.)
>
> (11) The US Department Of Justice declared Microsoft a Monopoly (no
> kidding, Sherlock....you could have asked anyone in IT and you would
> have found that out in a matter of minutes)
>
> (12) This is not an exaggeration. At the Windows 2000 launch in Feb
> 2000, the audience actually applauded when Gates indicated the Windows
> NT 4.0 ran (on average) for a week without a reboot. If IBM told
> companies that they'd have to reboot their 370's every week, there'd be
> hell to pay.
>
> (13) It was actually a Pyramid, but Sun fit the cadence better. I've
> had NCRs SUNs and AT&T 3B2 systems that have run literally for years
> without ever *requiring* a reboot (excluding administrative reboots for
> kernel tuning or to install new hardware)
>
> (14) Yeah...I know it doesn't jive with the original song, but I wrote
> it, liked it and then realized that it was the wrong verse. Tough. If
> you don't like it, you're entitled to double your money back.
>
> (15) See #12.
>
> (16) I originally had Kernigan, Ritchie and Torvalds. But since the
> Open Source movement and not Unix per se, is really the nail in
> Microsoft's casket, I thought that I'd update it.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Map Data and Software Development Kit
Date: 19 Aug 2000 13:06:49 -0500
>>>>> "Willie" == Willie Peloquin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Willie> Hi Gang, I am interested in getting map data along with a
Willie> SDK to produce my own applications. I have seen a lot of
Willie> map databases, but the only vendor to have a SDK is
Willie> Chicago Mapping. Anything available that is public domain?
Are you aware of Generic Mapping Tools(GMT)? A rather large set of
tools that will run fine under Linux. Used by geographers and
earth science types to create publications qualitity graphics.
GMT may not come with map data but it can handle several formats.
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