Linux-Misc Digest #536, Volume #25               Wed, 23 Aug 00 18:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: marking 'bad' sectors? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Gimme My Hard Drive Back. (N/A)
  Re: Firewall for Linux (Chris J/#6)
  Re: small installation (David Dorward)
  Re: small installation (Arlan Lucas de Souza)
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (Karl B)
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (Karl B)
  remote dump error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died) (Barry Gold)
  Re: small installation ("Eduardo =?iso-8859-1?q?Mu=F1oz?=")
  Re: Help: running bkground process after logout?? (Oliver Mannion)
  Good books ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? ( George Jefferson)
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? ( George Jefferson)
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (David C.)
  Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (David C.)
  Re: marking 'bad' sectors? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Which kernel for Athlon? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Remote logging ("Kart")
  SYSLOGD Hangs ("Kart")
  Re: Good books ("Jim Harback")
  Re: Gimme My Hard Drive Back. ("Jim Harback")
  Use linux machine to handle automated backups from windows and mac systems on 
network? (Vito Prosciutto)
  i think linux ran out of h/d ("NLintag")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:11:55 +0100

Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Rebooted??? Just to kill an X server?
>> Rather wastefull, that. Killall X should be all you need, and at least then
>> you still have a working system (Virtual Consoles).

> And how do you enter killall X if your X server is so crashed that you
> cannot get a CLI at all; i.e., when Control-Alt-PF[1-6] do nothing? The
> only suggestion I have heard for this that I could use is to ssh (or
> telnet if I had it enabled) into the machine from my other machine and do
> it from there. 

Well,  when this IS the case, and even CTRL ALT F1...F6 don't work, you
should still NOT reboot immediately...
You should use the Magic SysRq key to resync your hard disks, remount all
partitions read only and THEN and only then reboot.

It may be possible after you've taken the first two steps to recover the use
of your computer by using ALT SysRq E.

This sends a tErm signal to all processes, which may kill the X Server.
If it doesn't, you could try a ALT SysRq I which sends a kIll signal to all
jobs (except for init).

Login on the virtual consoles will of course be respawned when the shells
are terminated, so this might return you to a usable state.

If that fails, then you can issue ALT SysRq B (for immediate boot).
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|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:14:15 +0100

Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> And how do you enter killall X if your X server is so crashed that you cannot get
> a CLI at all; i.e., when Control-Alt-PF[1-6] do nothing? The only suggestion I
> have heard for this that I could use is to ssh (or telnet if I had it enabled)
> into the machine from my other machine and do it from there. And if someone has
> only a single machine that does not happen to be dialed into the Internet at the
> time, he cannot do even that.

Oh, and having just looked back in the thread to see the context a little
more, you issue the kill command in the at instead of the shutdown...

*THAT'S* WHEN how you can issue the killall X command...

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|                          | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally  coded for a 4 bit |
|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:15:40 +0100

Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Will your system still work if you do that and you have failed to move
> stuff like /tmp, /var, and /home to one or more other partitions that
> do have write permission?

For the purposes of running fsck, yes.

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|     Computer science     |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gimme My Hard Drive Back.
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 19:29:26 GMT

how do i reclaim hard drive space back on an HP Pavilion. i had to delete 
all my partitions made with Mandrake Linux 7.0 because of some problems 
and now my computer only detects 2/3 of my hard drive. i do not presently 
have linux on my computer. how can i have my computer detect all my GB's? 

bonus question: if you can tell me how without my having to delete all of 
my hard drive you get *10 extra bonus points*>

thanks for your help.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Firewall for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Aug 2000 20:49:18 +0100

Jason Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to install a firewall on my Linux box. Does anyone have any
>suggestions?
>I am a newbie for this and I want to know which one is good...
>
>Regards,
>Jason
>

I wrote a script to set up the firewall from a config firewall on my SuSE
box ... should only need minor changes for other dists (and I'm talking
really minor)...
        http://www.nccnet.co.uk/~sixie/linux/
is where you can grab the stuff from if you're interested. It uses linux 2.2's
ipchains stuff, but you shouldn't need to know its syntax (unless you run
into problems with the script or want to do more fancy stuff). The config
file takes care of it all.

Chris...

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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: small installation
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:28:36 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a linux installation that I can do from diskette, and
> will be very small after installation. It needs to run on a I386 laptop
> with a 200mg HD.

There are distros on freshmeat.net that run from a floppy. And you can
download disk images to install debian on a system without a CD-ROM
drive from www.debian.com

-- 
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/

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From: Arlan Lucas de Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: small installation
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:21:26 -0400

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am looking for a linux installation that I can do from diskette, and
> will be very small after installation. It needs to run on a I386 laptop
> with a 200mg HD.
> 
> thank you :-)
> 

Search for: 

smalllinux (smalllinux.netpedia.net)
mulinux
freesco

or go direct to http://www.toms.net/rb/ and look for "Other things
(links):" in this page.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl B)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:47:40 +0200

Thomas Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The pre-OS X Mac has a 32-character limit, and the
> > forbidden character is ":", again because it's a directory separator.
> 
> '.' is also discouraged on the Mac as the first character of filenames,
> primarily (from what I understand) for historic reasons.  There may or
> may not still be reasons for this, but it's something to consider.

The drivers internal names are (for example) ".Sony" for the floppy
drive.

You can get a complete list of them using the "drvr" MacsBug command.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl B)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:47:50 +0200

> > > \ / : * ? " < > and | are forbidden,
> > > Can anyone explain WHY some characters are prohibited?
> >
> > \ - Because DOS uses it as a "command" char.
> > / - Because DOS uses it as a directiory seperator.
> 
> You mean the other way around...
> 
> What's a command... character?
> 
> What about < and >, the smaller than and greater than characters?

Actually I'm a Mac person, so I'm not so completely secure with DOS and
PCs.

Actually, with "command" char, I really ment "argument" char.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: remote dump error
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:37:54 GMT

I am trying to do a remote rdump from one LINUX
machine (redhat) to another that has a tape drive
attached to it.  In doing so, I get the following
error message and nothing dumps.

Permission denied.
TCP_MAXSEG setsockopt: Bad file descriptor

Thanks for any help.


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Crossposted-To: rec.music.filk,alt.2600,rec.humor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Gold)
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:54:16 GMT

In article <8nmeun$4io$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Microsoft Pie - To the tune of "American Pie" by Don McClean

Hey, great!  And too true.  When I worked on an AIX system, it got
rebooted on every power failure.  Aside from that, there were a couple
of times we added hardware inside the case, one OS upgrade, and one
count it one time I had to reboot because NFS locked up.  This was
over a 3.5 year period, with power failures perhaps twice a year.

Using Suns, I find myself rebooting every couple of months because a
server had to be rebooted and I found myself with a "stale file
handle".

I do have to say a couple of words in MS's favor.

1. On a desktop, it doesn't matter if the system crashes occasionally.
You save your work occasionally, and the worst that happens is you
lose 1/2 hour of one person's time.  Putting systems like that on an
e-commerce webserver or anything else you want up 24/7, though, is
insane.

2. Machines keep getting bigger and faster.  You can't even buy a hard
disk smaller than about 30 gigabytes, unless you haunt used parts shops.
Moore's law applies.  So bloatware isn't quite as bad as it appears.
In fact, the biggest problem with Win32's bloat (Office and Netscape
too) is that they take too long to start up.

So I run Windoze on my home machine so I can have the use of Word and
suchlike programs.  But if I had my druthers, I'd run Solaris or Linux
and something like Merge (a Windoze emulator for Unix).
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From: "Eduardo =?iso-8859-1?q?Mu=F1oz?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: small installation
Date: 23 Aug 2000 22:59:50 +0000

David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There are distros on freshmeat.net that run from a floppy. And you can
> download disk images to install debian on a system without a CD-ROM
> drive from www.debian.com

www.debian.org
           ---

-- 

Eduardo Muņoz

Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

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From: Oliver Mannion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: running bkground process after logout??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:07:35 +1200

sweet as all, thanks for your help :-)

Oliver Mannion wrote:

> Hi,
> I would like to run a console app in the background and have it still
> run
> when I log off. How can I do this in Linux? How can I disconnect the app
>
> from its terminal??
> Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated,
> Thanks
> Oliver Mannion


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Good books
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:56:55 GMT

Since I'll get more and more involved with Linux I would like some
recommendations about good books.
I prefer Red Hat and it would also be good if it's updated for the
latest release (6.2 at the moment).
But also generic books that is a must, is interesting.

One note though I don't want books that are concentrating on one
specific issue e.g. TCP/IP.

/Fredrik


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( George Jefferson )
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 21:11:28 GMT



:while it's not forbidden, : can give problems in unix too since it's
:commonly used as a name separator.  e.g., in bash
:$ PATH=/bin:/usr/bin

theres the rub with unix, you can put all kinds of funky stuff
on the file system, but you will break all kinds of applications
with strange characters, including very basic stuff like mv,rm,ls.
I'd stick with printable ascii and prohibit all those same wildcards
as makes DOS choke, plus a few more like space~?[]{}()'"`|






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( George Jefferson )
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 21:16:02 GMT

:
:What about < and >, the smaller than and greater than characters?

> is output redirection, (DOS and most unix), as in "TYPE FILE > PRN"

the left < redirects input similarly under unix, but i dont know about DOS.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 17:21:13 -0400

Karsten Wutzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I'm writing a Java (hooray) application where I'm generating plain
> ASCII files and I want the user to be able to choose whether s/he
> wants a Unix, Windows Joliet, MS-DOS or Mac file to be generated (it
> will also run on any of these platforms). It's not only about the
> carriage returns, but also about which characters are forbidden in
> file names AND how many characters long a file name and its extension
> can be at maximum, e.g. for DOS it's 8.3.

Yep.  Even with cross-platform tools, like Java, your application still
must know things about the target operating systems.  True universal
portability will probably never happen (unless everybody ends up using
the same OS, which also will never happen.)

> Luckily Windows tells me that when creating an absolutely invalid
> filename, like /§&%(§%&)", the characters \ / : * ? " < > and | are
> forbidden, but what's the maximum filename length...?

If your disk volume is formatted FAT (pre-Win95 standard), then your
filenames are limited to 8.3 (8 character name, plus three character
extension).  All characters are stored as upper-case only.

If your disk volume is vFAT (the Win9x extension on FAT), then your
filenames can be any length up to 255 characters.  But there's a catch.
The full path from root to the filename (like C:\DIR\DIR\DIR\FILE.EXT)
can't be longer than 255 characters either.  So, as you descend lower
into directories, your actual filename limit becomes greater.

Also note that vFAT is not very efficient when it stores long names.  In
order to remain compatible with FAT, it doesn't change the directory
entry structure.  It stores long names by using up multiple adjacent 8.3
directory entries (setting a bit so that older operating systems will
ignore them).  Since the root directory of a vFAT volume has a fixed
number of entries, a small number of files with very long names can fill
it.  IMO, It is best to keep filenames in the root directory as short as
possible.

As for the reserved characters:

        \ and / are directory-separator characters.  (Yes, I know that
                only "\" works from the command line, but both work if
                you pass them to system calls.)

        : is used to delimit device names.  Like disk drives (C:) or
          other devices (like LPT1:)

        * and ? are wildcard characters.  Programs can actually use
                these in filenames, but they really shouldn't.  The
                resulting names are difficult or impossible to access
                from the command-line, because they get interpreted as
                wildcard characters.

        <, > and | are I/O redirection characters.  Again, you can use
                   them in system calls, but you shouldn't use them,
                   because it will cause confusion at the command line.

> What about Linux or Unix in general? Don't they have different file
> naming systems?  What were they based on...Minix file system?

UNIX systems can have many different kinds of file systems.  Some
systems impose stricter limits than others.  (For instance, if you mount
a FAT volume, you have the MS-DOS 8.3 limit, and you get the Win9x limit
if you mount a vFAT volume.)

Older UNIX file systems have a 15-character filename limit.  Newer
systems have a 255-character limit.  Some even have a 64K limit
(although why anyone would need a filename longer than 255 characters is
beyond me.)

On UNIX systems, the only character that's actually forbidden is the /
(forward slash) character.  It is a directory separator.  While other
characters are used by the shell (command-line) for various purposes
(like wildcards and redirection), they can always be "escaped" (prefixed
with a backslash char) or "quoted" (surrounded by single-quotes) to
prevent the shell from interpreting them - thus passing them on to a
program, which may use it as a filename.  Still, using characters like
these ( \ ? [ ] | <  > * & ! ( ) $ # and space ) may confuse some users,
who may be unaware of how to type them in properly.

Also note that on UNIX, filenames beginning with a dot are "hidden".
They don't show up in directory listings unless the user explicitly asks
for them

Finally, note that case is sensitive on UNIX file systems.  That is
"file" and "FILE" (and even "fILe" and "filE" and "fiLe") all refer to
different files.  Other operating systems (including DOS, Windows, OS/2
and MacOS) do not act this way - for them, two names that differ only in
case will refer to the same file.

> Don't remember... What about the Mac?

MacOS filenames have a 35-char limit on the original HFS file system.
The newer HFS+ file system has a much lager limit (255 chars, I think),
but not all applications can handle this, so keeping the names short may
be a good idea for now.

The colon (:) is a reserved char - used as a directory separator when
text representations of path names are generated.

Names shouldn't be start with a period (.) either - for reasons that
Greg already posted.  They will conflict with device names.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 17:24:21 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( George Jefferson ) writes:
>
>: while it's not forbidden, : can give problems in unix too since it's
>: commonly used as a name separator.  e.g., in bash
>: $ PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
> 
> theres the rub with unix, you can put all kinds of funky stuff on the
> file system, but you will break all kinds of applications with strange
> characters, including very basic stuff like mv,rm,ls.  I'd stick with
> printable ascii and prohibit all those same wildcards as makes DOS
> choke, plus a few more like space~?[]{}()'"`|

On UNIX, you can use anything but the directory separator (/) in a
filename.  But many of those characters are interpreted by the shell, or
by application programs.  Which may cause unexpected problems.  Still,
most well-written programs (like most of the shells) do provide a means
to get around this - usually by quoting or escaping the special
characters.

For instance, the filename:

        foo<>bar

would be typed in as either:

        'foo<>bar'
or      foo\<\>bar

etc.

-- David

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 21:29:55 GMT

Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

:> M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:>
:> You can do that as well. mount -rno remount /;

: Will your system still work if you do that and you have failed to move
: stuff like /tmp, /var, and /home to one or more other partitions that
: do have write permission?

Those are on /var on all my systems, of course!

But yes, you should be alright for a minute or two.

If any changes are made, however, you _should_ reboot at once. however
(cue spike).

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which kernel for Athlon?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:22:11 GMT

I assume that I would just use the standard kernel for my new athlon,
but it says that it's pentium optimized.  Which one should be
installed?  Thanks for your input.



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From: "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote logging
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:06:58 +0200


"Dave Barcelo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking for a way to to do remote logging on my network.  I want a
> server to get the logs (mainly wtmp) and put them in a directory that is
> signified for that day.  I would like individual logs kept for each
> machine and each day.  Any solutions?

Redirect syslog to your logging host, put that in your syslog.conf :
kern.*        @syslogger.mydomain.com

Then you have to enable remote logging on syslogger. I don't remember the
option, do a man syslogd to find (I think it's -r).

For log rotation, log at the "logrotate" package. It will do exactly what
you want.

Hope this helps !

>
> Dave
>



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From: "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SYSLOGD Hangs
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:32:54 +0200

Hello,

I have a problem with the syslogd daemon.
First let me expose :

I'm settings up a bootable CD-ROM for my firewall (will be a diskless
firewall with the full filesystem on CD). I'm working with a redhat 6.2. I
installed the base system and removed some packages to free up some space. I
did this by using the rpm command and never enforced to break dependencies.
I added some features (iproute2 packages, some perl modules, etc.) and here
it is, my system is ready for the CD recorder.

But when I boot, the syslog daemon hangs. I tried to launch it "by hand"
after boot :
# syslogd -d

This hangs too. No output, nothing !
If I log into another console and launch :
# ifconfig eth0 down
Then a few seconds later, syslogd starts OK. When having back up eth0, some
entries seems not to be logged (but I'm not sure).

I then tried to launch syslogd before the network in the boot scripts. In
this case, I have nothing logged.

I really don't know what I did broke when uninstalling some packages (I
removed things like anacron, at, gpm, gpm-devel, pcmcia, etc.).

If someone have any helpful idea, please let me know !!

Thanks in advance to all of you.

Sylvain.



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From: "Jim Harback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good books
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:35:29 +0200

In article <8o1dqc$ff9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Since I'll get more and more involved with Linux I would like some
> recommendations about good books. I prefer Red Hat and it would also be
> good if it's updated for the latest release (6.2 at the moment). But
> also generic books that is a must, is interesting.
> 
> One note though I don't want books that are concentrating on one
> specific issue e.g. TCP/IP.
> 
> /Fredrik

> 
> 
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Fredrik,

Try Peter Norton's "Complete Guide to Linux" (pulished by SAMS) 
and "Red Hat Linux Bible" by Christopher Negus (published by IDG).
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www.GlobalLinux.com

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From: "Jim Harback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gimme My Hard Drive Back.
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:39:11 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> how do i reclaim hard drive space back on an HP Pavilion. i had to
> delete  all my partitions made with Mandrake Linux 7.0 because of some
> problems  and now my computer only detects 2/3 of my hard drive. i do
> not presently  have linux on my computer. how can i have my computer
> detect all my GB's? 
> 
> bonus question: if you can tell me how without my having to delete all
> of  my hard drive you get *10 extra bonus points*>
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/

Have you removed lilo?  To do so insert a bootable dos disk which contains
fdisk and boot your computer.  At the A> prompt issue the following command:

fdisk /mbr

If lilo is not longer present then just fdisk the hard drive, remove the linux 
partition,
create a vfat partition, and then format the new partition.



-- 
Jim Harback
www.GlobalLinux.com

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From: Vito Prosciutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Use linux machine to handle automated backups from windows and mac systems on 
network?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:38:13 GMT

OK, here's what's sitting (or soon to be sitting) in my office:

Mac 8500 running Mac OS 9
Wintel clone running Win2K Pro
Wintel clone running some variant of Linux
Cable modem
whatever cables, hubs, etc. that I will need.

What I'd like to be able to do with the linux box is have it run
automated back-ups of itself and the networked wintel and mac machines.
The idea being that I'd periodically walk over to the linux box, pop in
a new tape and feel secure that I've always got a current back-up of
all my systems.

So the question is: is this a realistic prospect? What will I need to
mount the drives from the Wintel and Mac boxes? What back-up software
(and tape drive) is recommended for this sort of scenario (I really
want the back-up to be as self-sufficient as possible and be able to
deal with scenarios like locked files on the remote systems or the
remote systems being completely inaccessible (the Mac is usually kept
powered off & is set to shut down at 3am daily if I leave it on
overnight).

-vp

--
"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."


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Before you buy.

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From: "NLintag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i think linux ran out of h/d
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:55:57 -0700

so i turned on the pc and it did some kind of a moving sectors or something
(not good w/ these messages yet :~(( ) while booting up. it looked like
orbit process. i was able to login as  root, but gnome would not come up
anymore. i found some orb-directories (one for root and one for user -me-).
under those dirs, files like orb-23453675675687899, a lot. i have two spare
partitions. i was thinking of increasing / dir w/ these partitions (mark 83
code already).
how can mount (command) them permanently and where to place this command? or
is it too late to increase the space?
tia,
nesman



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