Linux-Misc Digest #560, Volume #25 Fri, 25 Aug 00 15:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (David C.)
From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Sylvain Demers)
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (David C.)
LILO version 21.5.1 released (John in SD)
Re: Best Linux Distribution (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Mark Preston)
Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Myron Murff)
Re: Maybe OT: RealPlayer vs. Windows Media cost for broadcaster? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Backup Software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Craig Kelley)
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: marking 'bad' sectors? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't type 'backtick' in JOE editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Distro change: To debian or SuSE ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux vs. Windows 9x/NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: joe (the editor) scaling problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How do you pronounce GNOME? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ??:How To Read Multiple Data Tracks From A CD?? (Dances With Crows)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 25 Aug 2000 14:10:27 -0400
Keep it to Usenet please <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> well, try:
>
> touch somecmd\ \<\ input.txt\ \>\ output.txt
>
> It might actually create a file called:
> "somecmd < input.txt > output.txt"
On UNIX, it definitely will work. And when your shell performs wildcard
expansion, and that name gets matched, all hell will break loose.
For example, if you would then type:
cat some*
the actual command line processed would be:
cat somecmd < input.txt > output.txt
It would fail to find the files somecmd and input.txt (unless they also
exist), and would write to output.txt.
There are some much worse things you can do with filenames, but I won't
post them here, in case someone decides to try it out and accidentally
wipes out his entire home directory trying to figure out how to delete
the file he just created.
-- David
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From: Sylvain Demers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:15:35 -0400
Hi,
I've just decided to drop RedHat for SuSE. I am extremely impressed with
the robustness of SuSE. It is by far the most stable RPM-based disto out
there, and quite a lot faster than RH & Mandrake in many regards. My
only problem now is to figure out where is what (I've been using RH and
Mandrake almost exculively for the last year and a half or so), since
SuSE is quite different than RH as far as configuration files goes.
Can someone tell me what is the equivalent (if any) of the /etc/rc.local
file under SuSE? I used to add some commands in rc.local under Redhat,
but I can't find where to put them under SuSE. I'm seriously considering
buying the new 7.0 box set, since a book would really come handy. I'm
currently using the eval copy I got from the Net.
Thanks in advance
Sylvain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: 25 Aug 2000 14:14:51 -0400
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> Of course, 99.999% of software for UNIX, including the OS itself,
>> uses NULL-terminated strings for filenames, so you'd never be able to
>> access such a file if you could manage to put one on the disk.
>
> i think open(2) pretty much requires null terminated strings.
So does creat(2).
However, directories are just files on UNIX.
You can open a directory as a file, read its contents, change them, and
write it back out. If you do this, you can rename any file to anything.
And possibly make that file completely inaccessible as well.
UNIX is definitely the system of "give the user enough rope for him to
hang himself."
-- David
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO version 21.5.1 released
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:19:18 GMT
LILO version 21 by Werner Almesberger has been updated to support booting
from disks > 1024 cylinders using a new 'lba32' option (-L new command line
switch). Version 21.5.1 now adds a menu-driven user interface to the Linux
boot process. Source code is available for download from:
ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo (developer's site)
Or from the main distribution site:
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo (please use)
The lilo-21.5 release builds upon the stability of 21.4.4, and adds new
code to support the boot menu. This release is fully backward compatible
with earlier releases.
Version 21.5.1 is a maintenance upgrade to version 21.5, which is still
current.
See the distribution file 'CHANGES' for details of the differences between
21.5.1 and prior releases.
--John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
LILO version 21.5 (18-Jul-2000) source at
ftp: brun.dyndns.org dir: /pub/linux/lilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: 25 Aug 2000 18:31:04 GMT
Asking the question
"what is the best window manager" (or best whatever....)
is just an abbreviation for the question
"I know nothing about WMs, what are some of the more popular WMs and which ones
do people like and why? What are the strengths and weeknesses of the different
WMs?".
The meaning of the question is clear, it is not a stupid one at all,
and often lead to interesting and informative discussions.
Some people are just angry and enjoy flaming. Instead of using their time
and energy to be helpful, they'd prefer to spend it being nasty. They probably
use the middle finger while driving regularly. Best just to ignore them since
a flame war is just what gets their juices flowing. Ignore them and they will
go away so that this newsgroup will be friendly and helpful.
Peter T. Breuer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Luc Van Bogaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : On 19 Aug 2000 15:05:28 GMT, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
: :>You're wrong. That is a stupid question, So which do you think is the
: :>best motorcar?
: : I really can't see a reason for calling that a stupid question. Maybe
: : it's a meaningless question, but stupid ? No.
:
: If you don't think a meaningless question is stupid, then you're dumber
: than you look. Or perhaps you don't understand what I mean ...
:
: later
:
: Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Preston)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:37:25 GMT
On 24 Aug 2000 09:10:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) wrote:
>In article <3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to create a
>new
>>concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology and the
>>know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its side and
>>view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely change
>>the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and you can
>>make it happen.
>
>XML is bullshit. Go Away.
>
Although this message was cross-posted to lots of groups, you will
find that they are all either Linux or XML groups. Both XML and Linux
are leaning towards simplification of software management with such
creations as the new SCO-Linux alliance and the XUL / CSS interface
definition of the GUI in Netscape 6.
To make such a broad statement, so far out of the appropriate context,
does not further discussion.
--
Mark A Preston BSc, FIAP
The Magpie's Nest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Myron Murff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:45:19 -0700
The rc. stuff is under /sbin in SuSE.
Myron
Sylvain Demers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just decided to drop RedHat for SuSE. I am extremely impressed with
> the robustness of SuSE. It is by far the most stable RPM-based disto out
> there, and quite a lot faster than RH & Mandrake in many regards. My
> only problem now is to figure out where is what (I've been using RH and
> Mandrake almost exculively for the last year and a half or so), since
> SuSE is quite different than RH as far as configuration files goes.
>
> Can someone tell me what is the equivalent (if any) of the /etc/rc.local
> file under SuSE? I used to add some commands in rc.local under Redhat,
> but I can't find where to put them under SuSE. I'm seriously considering
> buying the new 7.0 box set, since a book would really come handy. I'm
> currently using the eval copy I got from the Net.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sylvain
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maybe OT: RealPlayer vs. Windows Media cost for broadcaster?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:21:22 -0700
"Brian Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o69t5$of3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Our local classical/PBS radio station is now broadcasting on the net.
> I was interested in this because I now have an office in the interior
> of a building and can't get regular radio reception.
>
> Anyhow, they broadcast only for Windows Media player, not RealPlayer/G2.
> As a Linux user, obviously I can only listen if it is RealAudio format.
> When I asked, I got the anwser that the software to broadcast for
> Windows was free but the RealAudio software was around $2000.
>
> Is this true? I find it hard to believe that RealAudio would put
> themselves at such a competitive disadvantage. I wonder if they
> were comparing apples & oranges (i.e. something like you have to
> pay for the fully featured product but there is also a similar
> product which is less or free).
It may or may not be true. I'm not sure about Windows Media pricing, but
Real's server software comes in a couple of versions, a simpler, free
version, and a rather expensive, more fully featured one. It may be that
they needed the features of the more expensive Real software, and the
Windows one gave them the same thing for free.
Or, they might not know what the hell they're doing. Or, they might have a
Microsoft zealot in charge of all their computing needs. Who knows.
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup Software
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:42:49 GMT
Jean-David,
I didn't check the entire site but it says specificly that it doesn't
support autoloaders in the XBRU-specifications.
So it might do it from the command line but not from the GUI.
ArcServe does support autoloaders but I think the GUI is somewhat slow
since it's based around using a browser and Java.
/Fredrik
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use BRU, and it comes with a GUI, thought I do not use it. It says
it
> will run Autoloaders. You might try to get their user's manual, or
talk to
> them about it. http://www.estinc.com/
>
> --
> Jean-David Beyer .~.
> Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
> Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
> Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Aug 2000 12:55:34 -0600
"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip example of bad XML]
> But it does tremendously violate the *spirit* of XML. XML is supposed
> to be human-readable.
And HTML was supposed to be a document tagging system (ie, using
STRONG, EM, QUOTE, etc.); instead it turned into a bad word processing
mess (I, B, BLINK).
Never underestimate the ability of humans to screw things up
(intentionally, more often than not). It'll be interesting to see
how Microsoft's XML looks; I'll give 3:1 odds that it looks like all
those 100-character messes you see in the Windows registry.
> In a binary format, you'd always be at risk of problems due to
> variable field length. That can't happen with XML.
Sure it can:
<MSWORDDATA>
sdlkfjsda;lfkjsda f;lsdkf 2340985r32j23lkr2j r23o978xdf0sdjalfkwj 32
</MSWORDDATA>
(where that contains some encoded table)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:34:09 +0100
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Well, when this IS the case, and even CTRL ALT F1...F6 don't work, you
>> should still NOT reboot immediately...
>> You should use the Magic SysRq key to resync your hard disks, remount all
>> partitions read only and THEN and only then reboot.
> Glad to hear it. Where is the action of the SysRq key documented, pray tell?
A brief list is printed if you hit ALT SysRq z (or any other undefined
letter). The actions are documented in the Keyboard and Console HowTo.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:50:27 +0100
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> :> M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> :>
> :> You can do that as well. mount -rno remount /;
> : Will your system still work if you do that and you have failed to move
> : stuff like /tmp, /var, and /home to one or more other partitions that
> : do have write permission?
> Those are on /var on all my systems, of course!
> But yes, you should be alright for a minute or two.
> If any changes are made, however, you _should_ reboot at once. however
> (cue spike).
Not me... I'm not replying to this one with a ten foot pole...
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D'OH!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:43:36 +0100
Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> *THAT'S* WHEN how you can issue the killall X command...
> Great idea if you know in advance when your X is going to lock up so you
> can enter it into an at command...
He said he used it in specific circumstances when a lockup was probable.
i.e. testing a new X server, or trying out new X settings.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:40:15 +0100
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> :> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> :> :> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> :> :> You should use the Magic SysRq key to resync your hard disks, remount all
> :> :> partitions read only and THEN and only then reboot.
> : But WHERE IS THE LIST of SysRQ options and their effects?
> Whenever I want to see the list, I hit ctrl-alt-sysreq-w. That seems to
> list them. Cryptic, but you can make out what the cipher is by trying
> them one by one (I'm still vagoue about the difference between tErm and
> kIll or whatever. I think one kills all tasks and one kills the ones
> attached to your tty. But because of that it's hard to distinguish :-).
I think it's described as "tErm sends a terminate signal", "kIll sends a
kill (-9) signal).
Some processes are stubborn and won't quit when they receive a TERM. Perhaps
because they've locked up, or because they intercepted it.
No process can intercept a KILL signal.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't type 'backtick' in JOE editor
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:53:29 +0100
Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> The backtick key is used as a meta-character.
>> the first time you press it, you get the character code message.
>> Hitting it again, gives you the character itself.
>> I'm typing this in joe, just to prove it works...
>> `````````````````````````````````````````````````
>> :)
> Strange... it works: ``````` :) Thanks.
> But... previously it worked like a single-button char.
> (I remember that I should not press this button twice).
> How could it be?
Different version of joe perhaps (with a different meta character defined?)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Distro change: To debian or SuSE ??
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:44:13 +0100
David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Other than that I see that SuSE are about to launch a new version.
>> Thinking of that also.
> SuSE is a very good beginners distro, it has some great autodetection of
> hardware.
Not to mention an excellent manual.
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| Computer Science | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Windows 9x/NT
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:14:18 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> The question I'd like to pose to the newsgroup would be what makes
> Windows so unreliable and prone to crashing?
> Is it the closed source nature of the kernel?
It's a contributing factor, but it's quite possible for a software company
to produce stable software.
> Or is it just down to incompetent programmers at Microsoft?
Don't blame it all on the programmers...
The merketting execs, designers, etc are just as much to blame.
Win9x contains Win311 code which is based off DOS...
Is there any surprise that this house of cards is unstable?
That's the designers fault that can be put down to sheer lack of forsight
and laziness...
What they SHOULD have done was simply dump the DOS/Win311 code from the core
when they did 95, and instead, supplied DOS/311 as a "Wine" type program or
emulator.
> Surely MS
> should know that it crashes a lot, and they release update after patch
> after upgrade and there dosen't seem to be any improvement from windows95
> to windows98 - surely MS can be aware that they're cranking out buggy
> code, but they don't do anything about it (but people still buy it -
> that's another story...). I can't understand why they haven't eliminated
> the deaded 'invalid page' error yet,
Because they have the desktop market in a headlock, and just don't CARE
about all the bugs. All they care about is fiddling with the look and feel
to make it look "new" and "exciting" for the next marketting storm.
> but Linux has surged on ahead in a relativly short time.
Nahhhh... It's been 9 YEARS!
It's only started getting a foothold over the past two or three.
> Bill Gates obsessed with the idea of a computer in every home, but I
> rather suspect that this 'vision' comes with the condition that it's
> his OS installed on those computers.
Of course it is...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: joe (the editor) scaling problems
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:51:49 +0100
David Grogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> First of all, thanks for the educational response about terminfo and
> termcap, I had no idea what they were. I tried resize but it wasnt to
> be found, tried setenv'ing rows and columns to no avail. But I DID find
> a utility called screen that works. I don't totally understand what it
> does, but it seems to put me on the console ttya0. Pardon me if I'm
> confused with my terminology and thanks for your response.
Screen is an excellent program.
It's almost indispensible for use over TELNET sessions.
With it, you can create multiple virtual consoles and switch between them at
will using only one actual VC.
You can also (and this is a REALLY good use) leave programs that're running
within it running while you detatch the screen and log out, returning later
to re-attach it, or, if your telnet connection fails, the things you were
running are auto detatched and safeguarded, so you can resume where you left
off when you log back in.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:52:40 +0100
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl Fink wrote:
>>It's significantly faster than WP on my box. Faster to load, faster
>>to use.
> Really? Faster than WP8 or faster than the new and improved
> Corel-WP-Office-Suite-Windows-Code-linked-with-Winelib thing?
> I haven't tried the latter, but on my machines WP8 is way
> faster than SO.
Yup... I wrote my final year project in WP8... On a 486!
I would've torn all my hair out after a day if I'd tried to do THAT with
StarOffice...
>>That and it works with icewm.
WP8 works with any window manager you care to throw at it.
What's the window manager got to do with me wordprocessor?
Besides... How can it work *with* a window manager when the windowmanager is
rendered totally useless by the StarOffice desktop?
>>Supposedly the next version will decompose it back into applications.
> That would be nice.
Indeed... Why would I want to load up a presentation package, database,
spreadsheet, desktop, planner and web browser when all I want to do is write
a short letter?
I'll never understand the mentality behind that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce GNOME?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:44:38 +0100
Stefan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> 1. Is it gnome, like the man who sits by your pond. OR
>> 2. Is it Gee-Nome, as in the human gnome project. OR
>> 3. Is it pronounced similar to GNU, like Gu-Nome.
>>
>> Any Ideas?
> Gee-Nome?
I pronounce it simply as it's spelled...
nome...
(rhymes with home)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ??:How To Read Multiple Data Tracks From A CD??
Date: 25 Aug 2000 19:08:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:38:58 GMT, Douglas E. Mitton wrote:
>The problem is that the CD is damaged and all that mount sees (in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Linux and Windows) is the last session (about 1% of the total data
>stored). The disk was written in 15 sessions and I can see all those
>tracks.
Damaged how? Are there a lot of scratches over the beginning area of
the disk, or is the data layer itself actually damaged? If it's
scratches, you can work wonders with a CD-Repair kit, or with clear nail
polish(!). If the data layer itself is damaged, there may not be a
whole lot you can do.
>I read about the mount session option BUT it is not available in my
>Slackware 7 mount ... it must be very recent.
Nope. Been there for at least 1.5 years.
mount -t iso9660 -o session=X /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
and if that doesn't work, it's entirely possible that the disc's TOC is
damaged beyond repair.
Hmm. If this data is incredibly important, it might be a good idea to
look at the cdparanoia source code and see if it's possible to adapt the
methods it uses to read data tracks. Or take a look at "readcd", which
ships with mkisofs and is supposed to be able to read damaged data discs
with some degree of accuracy. It has a "sectors=" option for
determining which sectors to read, too. You can get a sector range from
"cdrecord -msinfo" if nothing else. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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