Linux-Misc Digest #664, Volume #25                Mon, 4 Sep 00 06:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is there a limit to the number of files in 1 directory? (Paul Colquhoun)
  Re: PPP works but web browsers don't (Arturo C)
  Re: how to create hard-linked directories? (Steffen 'Mugge' Chmil)
  Re: can't umount /usr/ (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: Linux Mail Server (Chris Stratford)
  creating rescue disks for kernel-2.2/libc6 (Ray Fencey)
  Linux Counter: 154969 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  backup os? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  backup os? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Is there a limit to the number of files in 1 directory?
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 08:15:47 GMT

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:32:36 +0100, Dave T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|Is there a limit to the number of files you can have in 1 directory in
|Linux.
|
|I'm approaching over 50,000 files in 1 directory.


I don't think there is a limit other than the file size limit.
A directory is just a special file, and is subject to the (current)
2Gb file size limit.

That said, lookup times will deteriorate well before then. If possible,
split thei directory into subdirectories and store the files sorted
by some category in the subdirectories.

Using the first 1 or 2 characters of the file name would do if there
are no other categories.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arturo C)
Subject: Re: PPP works but web browsers don't
Date: 4 Sep 2000 07:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:56:52 +0800, Chew GH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I managed to get my winmodem working in Linux with the help of ltmodem.  I
>could connect to my ISP via PPP after consulting the detailed PPP-howto.  It
>wo


If /sbin/ifconfig  shows a pppX device then your're up and running.

The problem could be with not knowing the DNS servers you use. Get
your ISP's DNS ip addresses and add them to:

/etc/resolve.conf

nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

No reboot necessary. :)


Arturo C

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From: Steffen 'Mugge' Chmil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to create hard-linked directories?
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:50:31 +0200

I understand, that hard-link directories are unnatural in method of
working of the ext2-file-system...
The background was to link some (ro) dirs to the root of a root-changed
ProFTP-deamon where symlinks doesn't work.
But the report of your ext2-adventure makes me think about an other
solution:)

Thanks!

Steffen

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Subject: Re: can't umount /usr/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 4 Sep 2000 10:56:02 +0100

In article <8oucfi$ul7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When shutting down the OS it reports a problem of not being able to
>umount /usr/. I have tried to umount -f /usr/ and I've tried remounting
>/usr/ in read only, but I can't seem to do anything. How can one umount
>a drive that is busy?
>
>If a drive is busy, how can you tell why it's busy? 

I can't answer those q's, but...

> Is there a way to
> see what files are open or in use?

Use 'lsof'.

/A

-- 
Andreas Kähäri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Stratford)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: 4 Sep 2000 09:08:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8op6rh$495$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Darren Wyn Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I'd avoid Qmail if at all possible - it has definite problems when
>> things get that large.

> Would you define one or two definites ?

Ok, here are two of the more irritating "features":

The primary one is that accepting incoming messages takes priority
over actually delivering them.  When your server is pretty small and
not getting much traffic that's not a problem.  When you reach larger
volumes of incoming traffic Qmail still accepts messages but they just
sit around in the preprocessed queue.

Another problem is its behaviour when trying to deliver messages to a
site that's unavailable.  Qmail will start to deliver each message
(one message only per connection - not exactly network friendly) even
when it knows that the site it's trying to deliver to is unavailable.
It has to start a new process before it finds out that the delivery
isn't going to succeed.  Again, for small sites that's not really a
problem, but for larger ones this quickly eats resources that would be
better used elsewhere (take a look at the Qmail list archives for the
number of times people have seen this problem when the likes of
Hotmail disappears off the network for a while.)

    Chris.

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From: Ray Fencey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: creating rescue disks for kernel-2.2/libc6
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:29:19 GMT

hi all

i've been trying to create a root disk for my linux-2.2/libc6 system but
have ran into a few problems.

previously, i have been able to create such root disks when i had a
libc5 system, writting everything onto a ramdisk, but putting on libc6
and misc utils requires much more space than the default ramdisk size of
4096

my questions are:
* how easily can i dump up the default ramdisk size; ramdisk is built as
a loadable module on my box

* following on to above - do i really need a ramdisk, or can i just use
a tmp directory off my local filesystem?

* if after i get all the utils/libs required for the root disk, but if
the compressed image is larger than the size of a 1.44mb floppy, can the
root disk be split across multiple floppies?

thanks for any info

ray


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Subject: Linux Counter: 154969 registered Linux users
Date: 4 Sep 2000 09:55:27 GMT

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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Mon Sep  4 09:40:29 2000

There are 154969 persons registerd.
3023 users have been registered by friends.
There are 80814 machines registered.

I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
3,099,380 and 77,484,500 people.

WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population

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======================================================================
  1 IS Iceland                        220    4  100 813.9    0.3
  2 NO Norway                        3303   49 1468 753.5    4.4
  3 FI Finland                       3424   55 1756 670.7    5.1
  4 DK Denmark                       3214   17 1229 612.2    5.2
  5 SE Sweden                        5009   60 2401 562.7    8.9
  6 AQ Antarctica                       2    0    0 486.0    0.0
  7 NF Norfolk Island                   1    0    0 452.7    0.0
  8 FO Faroe Islands                   18    0    2 410.4    0.0
  9 EE Estonia                        531   16  323 363.8    1.5
 10 SI Slovenia                       668    8  177 342.3    2.0
 11 GI Gibraltar                        8    1   11 278.1    0.0
 12 NL Netherlands                   3977   51 2015 255.5   15.6
 13 CA Canada                        6361   83 3295 220.7   28.8
 14 MC Monaco                           7    1    4 220.7    0.0
 15 AT Austria                       1746   31  988 217.6    8.0
 16 LU Luxembourg                      87    0   42 209.2    0.4
 17 AU Australia                     3395   50 1932 185.9   18.3
 18 IE Ireland                        654    5  283 183.4    3.6
 19 NZ New Zealand                    640    3  387 180.4    3.5
 20 CH Switzerland                   1247   16  748 173.0    7.2
 21 US USA                          45943  832 23535 172.4  266.5
 22 CY Cyprus                         124    0   16 166.5    0.7
 23 BE Belgium                       1637  525  835 161.0   10.2
 24 HU Hungary                       1548   48  849 154.8   10.0
 25 DE Germany                      10839  187 5706 129.8   83.5
 26 LI Liechtenstein                    4    0    3 128.5    0.0
 27 SG Singapore                      413    7  158 121.6    3.4
 28 PT Portugal                      1164    9  353 118.0    9.9
 29 FR France                        6612  111 2587 113.4   58.3
 30 AD Andorra                          8    0    6 109.9    0.1
 31 ES Spain                         4188   32 1198 106.9   39.2
 32 KR Korea (South)                 4809   19  499 105.7   45.5
 33 GB Great Britain                 6081  109 3126 104.0   58.5
 34 GL Greenland                        6    0    1 103.1    0.1
 35 PL Poland                        3881   55 1627 100.4   38.6
 36 IL Israel                         523   13  249  96.5    5.4
 37 KY Cayman Islands                   3    0    3  86.6    0.0
 38 VG Virgin Islands (British)         1    0    0  75.8    0.0
 39 CZ Czech Republic                 748   21  437  72.5   10.3
 40 BG Bulgaria                       586    6  226  68.0    8.6
 41 LT Lithuania                      235    3  111  64.5    3.6
 42 CR Costa Rica                     210    0   86  60.6    3.5
 43 HR Croatia                        298    6   82  59.6    5.0
 44 PW Palau                            1    0    0  59.0    0.0
 45 UY Uruguay                        189    0   45  58.4    3.2
 46 GR Greece                         608   13  234  57.7   10.5
 47 NC New Caledonia                   10    0   14  53.3    0.2
 48 IT Italy                         3029   64 1237  52.7   57.5
 49 BM Bermuda                          3    0    4  48.3    0.1
 50 GU Guam                             7    0    2  44.6    0.2
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 53 SV El Salvador                    251    0   30  43.1    5.8
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 55 BR Brazil                        6958   59 1389  42.8  162.7
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 57 MT Malta                           15    0    9  39.9    0.4
 58 RO Romania                        842   36  411  38.9   21.7
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 66 TW Taiwan                         606    5  199  28.2   21.5
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 69 RE Reunion                         18    0    6  26.5    0.7
 70 ZA South Africa                  1095   10  465  26.2   41.7
 71 PR Puerto Rico                     95    0   21  24.9    3.8
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 86 AG Antigua and Barbuda              1    0    2  15.2    0.1
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100 MQ Martinique                       4    0    2  10.0    0.4
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102 CU Cuba                            98    6   26   8.9   11.0
103 VC Saint Vincent and the Grenad     1    0    0   8.4    0.1
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106 BO Bolivia                         50    0   12   7.0    7.2
107 ST Sao Tome and Principe            1    0    0   6.9    0.1
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109 LC Saint Lucia                      1    0    0   6.3    0.2
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133 SA Saudi Arabia                    28    0   10   1.4   19.4
134 GY Guyana                           1    0    0   1.4    0.7
135 KG Kyrgyzstan                       6    0    2   1.3    4.5
136 AZ Azerbaijan                      10    0    3   1.3    7.7
137 IN India                         1215   16  312   1.3  952.1
138 ZM Zambia                          11    0    4   1.2    9.2
139 NP Nepal                           26    0    0   1.2   22.1
140 ZW Zimbabwe                        13    0    8   1.2   11.3
141 PG Papua New Guinea                 5    0    1   1.1    4.4
142 CN China                         1345    4  237   1.1 1210.0
143 EG Egypt                           70    1    9   1.1   63.6
144 MA Morocco                         31    0   14   1.0   29.8
145 UZ Uzbekistan                      24    0    8   1.0   23.4
146 DZ Algeria                         27    0   10   0.9   29.2
147 GA Gabon                            1    0    3   0.9    1.2
148 PK Pakistan                        89    5   14   0.7  129.3
149 IR Iran                            44    0   22   0.7   66.1
150 CI Cote d'Ivoire                    9    0    5   0.6   14.8
151 MG Madagascar                       8    0    4   0.6   13.7
152 LY Libya                            3    0    1   0.6    5.4
153 NE Niger                            5    0    0   0.5    9.1
154 KE Kenya                           14    0    4   0.5   28.2
155 VN Vietnam                         35    0    4   0.5   74.0
156 SN Senegal                          4    0    0   0.4    9.1
157 MR Mauritania                       1    0    0   0.4    2.3
158 MZ Mozambique                       6    0    2   0.3   17.9
159 BD Bangladesh                      39    0    8   0.3  123.1
160 CF Central African Republic         1    0    0   0.3    3.3
161 RW Rwanda                           2    0    0   0.3    6.9
162 ER Eritrea                          1    0    0   0.3    3.4
163 BF Burkina Faso                     3    0    1   0.3   10.6
164 TM Turkmenistan                     1    0    1   0.2    4.1
165 TG Togo                             1    0    0   0.2    4.6
166 LA Laos                             1    0    2   0.2    5.0
167 KH Cambodia                         2    0    1   0.2   10.9
168 TZ Tanzania                         5    0    0   0.2   29.1
169 TJ Tajikistan                       1    0    1   0.2    5.9
170 HT Haiti                            1    0    1   0.1    6.7
171 UG Uganda                           2    0    0   0.1   20.2
172 AO Angola                           1    0    0   0.1   10.3
173 YE Yemen                            1    0    1   0.1   13.5
174 SY Syria                            1    0    0   0.1   15.6
175 ET Ethiopia                         3    0    0   0.1   57.2
176 NG Nigeria                          5    0    1   0.0  103.9
177 XW The World (Somewhere in it)    265  207    1   0.0 5771.9
178 SD Sudan                            1    0    0   0.0   31.5
179 CD Democratic Congo                 1    0    0   0.0   46.5
180 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands        1    0    1   0.0    0.0


WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place      Users Percent
==============================
school     31693  20.74%
home       135713  88.83%
not used      21   0.01%
work       65112  42.62%
somewhere   2889   1.89%
==============================
TOTAL      152784 100.00%

NOTE: The total is the 152784 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 235428


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: backup os?
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:49:54 GMT

Well, the security of one OS is becoming more and more important.
However, there are some unexpectable catastrophes (not only the hack),
which will destory the whole system. So there is such backup system: the
second computer is runing the same pace of the first computer, then even
the first computer crashs for some reason, the second computer can start
work in very short time. Now, I like to ask you, is there such function
which is finish by linux? Sorry, I even don't know the name of such
system: backup os? or other name people have used? Any discussions of
such os are wolcome.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: backup os?
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:50:49 GMT

Well, the security of one OS is becoming more and more important.
However, there are some unexpectable catastrophes (not only the hack),
which will destory the whole system. So there is such backup system: the
second computer is runing the same pace of the first computer, then even
the first computer crashs for some reason, the second computer can start
work in very short time. Now, I like to ask you, is there such function
which is finish by linux? Sorry, I even don't know the name of such
system: backup os? or other name people have used? Any discussions of
such os are wolcome.


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