Linux-Misc Digest #191, Volume #26               Tue, 31 Oct 00 04:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... - Amiga! ("Scott M. Navarre")
  Re: RANDOM shell variable in bash (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Where are the scripts that load the modules located? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Corporate email help (Adam Schuetze)
  Re: How to recover a deleted (rm -fr) directory and files  (Rob Komar)
  Re: Which is the best distribution? (Victor Dods)
  Matrox G100 (Milan Kratka)
  Re: MIcrosoft's web site won't quite work with Netscape (Dan Kegel)
  Help, error when booting ("Lamar Thomas")
  Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... (jeff)
  Re: Windows98 / Linux 6.2 dual boot (jeff)
  How to set higher resolution text modes? (Victor Dods)
  syntax highlighting pager? (Matt Garman)
  Boundless (SunRiver) Multiconsole drivers for Linux? ("Scott M. Navarre")
  Re: viewing Chinese. (Eric Wong)
  Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Telnet from Win2k to linux ("Bryan Chapman")
  Re: Help, error when booting ("Tom Franssen")
  Re: root login ("Tom Franssen")
  Re: X consumes constant 98% CPU usage ("J.Smith")
  Re: How to set higher resolution text modes? (Stanislaw Flatto)

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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... - Amiga!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:29:06 GMT

The Amiga is alive!

  I had seen a while back on Tech TV (formerly known as ZDTV) that the Amiga
is coming back - in a hardware independent form.
  There is a new Amiga software development kit which lets the NEW
backwards-compatible Amiga OS run hosted ON TOP of Microsoft Windows and
Linux (I think Red Hat only).  The MSRP is $99, so it depends on how badly
you want to do it I guess.  You can find out more at:
http://www.amiga.com/products/SDK.shtml

  Send them an e-mail to find out for sure.  And, if you do, let me know
what you find.  I am interested...

Hope this helps,
  -Scott (fellow former Amigan)

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8tlhml$sta$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>   I don't know if anyone has any ideas about this, or know if it can be
> done so here goes:
>
>   I have an old Amiga SCSI drive with data I want to retrieve, I've
> fired up linux and all is well except there is no PC partition info on
> the Amiga drive.  Has anyone ever managed to attach an Amiga SCSI drive
> to a PC and read the data off it?  If so can you let me know how? (The
> Amiga is dead :-(
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: RANDOM shell variable in bash
Date: 31 Oct 2000 00:35:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Wilson wrote:
> Before posting, I had attempted what I think you are suggesting. I have 
> version 1.14.7(1) of bash and my bash(1) man page is dated in 1995. Does 
> your version provide the information I'm after?

Hmm.  I have bash 2.03 (Debian) and the man page says that RANDOM will be
between 0 and 32767.  Of course, if you're using a different bash version,
the behavior could be different ...

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Where are the scripts that load the modules located?
Date: 31 Oct 2000 00:39:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mike wrote:
>    I was wondering where the module loading scripts are
> located. Example. I am using Redhat 6.1 and I have
> a PCI NE2000 ethernet card. It has already been installed
> and running. In /etc/conf.modules there is
> a line:
>        alias eth0 ne2k-pci
>
> Does this line cause ne2k-pci.o module to be loaded
> or does it just associate it with the eth0 device.

The latter.

>                                                    If
> it just associates the module with the eth0 device, then
> some other script elsewhere is loading the ne2k-pci module.
> If so, where is it being loaded from?

Because of the kernel's autoloading feature, it is (often) not
necessary to load a module explicitly.  All you have to do (we
hope!) is to do something that would require that module to be
loaded.  As I recall, if /etc/modules.conf has a line like you
show, all you have to do is to issue the right ifconfig(8)
command (to bring up the interface), and the cited module will
be loaded.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Schuetze)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Corporate email help
Reply-To: adam at adam-schuetze dot org
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:52:10 GMT

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:31:10 GMT,  Jeffrey J. Potoff wrote:
> > 
> > What kind of linux solutions are there for email?  We want to host our own
> > email internally, right now we use our isp.
> > 
> > I checked and for Microsoft Exchange it would cost us about 10000$ in
> > licenses and hardware.  What are some Linux solutions that would work with
> > our small company?
> > 
> 
> How about the standard, sendmail?  It works well and is free.  There is
> also qmail, which is supposed to be more secure than sendmail.  

I think what appeals to me about using open source solutions is
that you write your own ticket. You can configure things exactly 
as you want, and you don't need to be ridiculous fees to do it.
It's more than money though; you can really get into the nuts
and bolts of the system and make it do exactly as you want (or
don't want, if you make a mistake :p ).  Plus these tools have a
ridiculously fast rate of improvement.  When bugs are found,
they are fixed, and fast.  NO lolly-gagging about, and then
charging you for upgrades.

As someone mentioned earlier, you can do simple-to-complex mail
filter systems, you can subscribe to MAPS, all sorts of neat
things.  You can set things up, so that that sendmail recieves
the mail via fetchmail, passes it off to procmail, which filters
it (according to a set of rules), and then delivers it.  This is
really useful if your employees send/recieve a LOT of mail, you
can configure things so that mail from particular people ends up
in certain directories, that sort of thing.  Makes it easier to
deal with large volumes of email.

If you don't want to have a mail server sit out in the breeze,
you can also use fetchmail to grab the mail from a pop server
from behind a firewall.  Since the connection is outbound,
everything works nicely.  If you set your polling rate
relatively quick ( ~ 2 minutes or something), it will appear as
if you have a regular push email system, without the muss/fuss.
Fetchmail also supports pop3 over ssl, so if you are concerned
about spraying passwords everywhere, this may be useful.

This box (inside your local net) can fetch the mail, and then
distribute it to a network of sendmail-equipped machines on your
private network.  It's a nice and tidy solution; how useful it
is will depend on the configuration of your current network.

have fun, and happy mailing.

-- 
            Adam Schuetze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        Get my pgp keys at http://www.adam-schuetze.org 

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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to recover a deleted (rm -fr) directory and files 
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:03:29 -0800

Philip Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have accidentally deleted a directory with a lot of files in my RedHat 6.1
> machine.
> Does anyone know anyway to get the files back?

If the files are from official RedHat packages, it might be easiest to
just re-install them.  Otherwise...

There's probably a Ext2fs-Undeletion mini-HOWTO somewhere on your system
(it's in /usr/doc/Linux-mini-HOWTOs on my Slackware system).  It has
step-by-step instructions for recovering files.  If you still haven't
done so yet, unmount the file system as soon as possible (or re-mount
it read-only) to keep anything else from writing into the freed blocks
on disk.  The mini-HOWTO covers unmounting.

Good luck,
Rob Komar

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:01:06 -0800
From: Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which is the best distribution?

Paul Kimoto wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Victor Dods wrote:
> > I have been using Corel Linux recently, and have found it to be very
> > irritating to use.  I[t?] has modified libraries and such which complicate
> > installing many things.  In light of this, I want to install a different
> > flavor of Linux, and would like to know people's opinions on the
> > matter.  I was thinking either Red Hat or Debian, because of the nice
> > package features, although I've heard conflicting accounts for all
> > different distributions of Linux.
> 
> Debian is easiest to upgrade, and offers a ridiculous number of programs
> that you may install.  The packaging system should look familiar to you,
> since Corel uses the one developed by Debian.
> 
> What are _your_ priorities?
> 

I'm mainly looking for a system which doesn't experience many (if any)
problems like ones I had with Corel Linux which were caused by having
modified and specific libraries.  Also I like the package system of
Debian, so I have considered that.  I need a system which is easy to
install things on -- like KDE 2, development IDEs, libraries, etc.  I
have heard that upgrading from Redhat 6.2 to 7 (or some version) was a
difficult task, and that is the type of thing I would like to try to
avoid.  Opinions are greatly appreciated!

Victor Dods

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From: Milan Kratka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Matrox G100
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:38:56 -0600

Does anyone know wether I could use a dualheaded Matrox G100 video card
with Linux (RedHat 7.0 or SuSe 7.0)?
I have dual flat screens as well.  Matrox offers a beta drivers for G200
and up and I was trying to follow their README
file instructions but did not get far with it.

Thanks for any hint.

Milan Kratka


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From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc
Subject: Re: MIcrosoft's web site won't quite work with Netscape
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:38:14 -0800

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Oct 19th:
> I am running Netscape 4.75 under RH 6.2.  When I try to access
> Microsoft's website, I get a blank page.  The problem seems to
> be Javascript.  If I turn it off, I get the web page, but
> certain options are not available.  I was trying to search for
> a driver to download.  There is a line starting "Search" where there should be a box 
>or an area to type something, but it isn't there. 
>  
> Are there any conjectures about whose fault this is?  Is
> Microsoft running a non standard version of javascript so
> that only IE will work with it?  Or is there a bug in Netscape's javascript.

That problem happens for me with NS4.74 and 4.76 under Linux,
but not with NS6PR3 on Linux or any browser under Windows.

I think it's a bug in Netscape's support for javascript.  
See http://www.kegel.com/jbug.html for an analysis
of the problem.

The bug exists and can be tickled in Netscape 4.7x under Windows,
but for some reason the Microsoft page works ok on Netscape under
Windows; must be a flaky bug.

- Dan

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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Help, error when booting
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:38:07 GMT

I am running RH 6.2.  As my system boots up I see a list of services
starting up and updating their status to [OK] as it rolls up the screen.
However, I get the following error on the httpd services:

httpd:    Cannot determine local host name
Use the ServerName directive to set it manually

I have my system connected to the Internet with a Cable modem with a network
card.  Can someone help me?  Thanks.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t...
Date: 31 Oct 2000 06:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Did you try: dd if=/dev/sda of=amiga-file

-jeff


On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:27:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>   I don't know if anyone has any ideas about this, or know if it can be
> done so here goes:
> 
>   I have an old Amiga SCSI drive with data I want to retrieve, I've
> fired up linux and all is well except there is no PC partition info on
> the Amiga drive.  Has anyone ever managed to attach an Amiga SCSI drive
> to a PC and read the data off it?  If so can you let me know how? (The
> Amiga is dead :-(
> 
> Thanks,
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Subject: Re: Windows98 / Linux 6.2 dual boot
Date: 31 Oct 2000 06:50:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:30:05 -0000, kan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello, does anyone know the requirement and configuration for making my 
> system into a "dual boot"? I'd reformatted my system and would like to 
> make it into a dual boot system. I need to know the procedure of doing it.

When trying new things with Linux, always check out the HOWTOs and FAQs at
http://www.linuxdoc.org.  For multibooting, a good place to start is
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LILO.html

-jeff

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:14:31 -0800
From: Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to set higher resolution text modes?

I once was able in Slackware a few years ago to set the console text
mode to resolutions of 100x60, 80x50 and so forth, but I can't remember
how to do that at all anymore.  Can anyone enlighten me?

Victor Dods

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Subject: syntax highlighting pager?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:24:50 GMT

Does there exist a pager with syntax highlighting?  In other words, I'd
like to be able to do something like "less program.c" and have the output
in color as it would look if viewed in vim or XEmacs.

Thanks,
Matt

-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
        -- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"



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From: "Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Boundless (SunRiver) Multiconsole drivers for Linux?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:39:21 GMT

Does anyone know if there are any Linux drivers for the Boundless (formerly
SunRiver) Multiconsole terminals?



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From: Eric Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux,linux.help,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: viewing Chinese.
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:33:19 +0800

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t...
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:46:16 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   I don't know if anyone has any ideas about this, or know if it can be
> done so here goes:
> 
>   I have an old Amiga SCSI drive with data I want to retrieve, I've
> fired up linux and all is well except there is no PC partition info on
> the Amiga drive.  Has anyone ever managed to attach an Amiga SCSI drive
> to a PC and read the data off it?  If so can you let me know how? (The
> Amiga is dead :-(

If you you compile a Linux kernel with Amiga filesystem support
you should be able to mount the disk and read it. I don't know
if Amiga filesystem write support is working yet but it sounds
as if thats not what yout need.

If you want to be really safe, you can raw copy the whole disk
to a Linux drive (using dd) and then mount the file as as an
Amiga drive.

Hope this helps,
Erik
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
When a user mailbombs me with 100,000 messages, we 
call it denial of service and the guy can be thrown 
in jail.  When 100,000 SPAMMERS send me one mail each, 
we call it marketing.

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From: "Bryan Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet from Win2k to linux
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:54:14 -0000

Hi All,

Just built a new linux box with corel 1.2. Running fine, got SAMBA up and
running. Now want to remove monitor etc and leav it as a file server.... But
I can't telnet into it - just get connect failed. Do I need to enable a
telnet client on the linux box?

Thanks for hour help

bryan



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From: "Tom Franssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help, error when booting
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:11:08 +0100

Search in /etc/httpd/httpd.conf for ServerName, and set i ServerName
localhost

Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
jNtL5.376014$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I am running RH 6.2.  As my system boots up I see a list of services
> starting up and updating their status to [OK] as it rolls up the screen.
> However, I get the following error on the httpd services:
>
> httpd:    Cannot determine local host name
> Use the ServerName directive to set it manually
>
> I have my system connected to the Internet with a Cable modem with a
network
> card.  Can someone help me?  Thanks.
>
>



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From: "Tom Franssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root login
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:14:30 +0100

Delete or rename /etc/securetty

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws 8tkgdv$33$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I am using RedHat 6.2.  I am unable to remotely
> login as root using telnet.  I can log in using
> another account and then su to root.  I can also
> login as root from the console.  Is there an allow
> file that I need to edit.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> M.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X consumes constant 98% CPU usage
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:46:59 +0100

>
> In the background, I have a
> whole lot of stuff running.
>

For me its a little different. I have almost NOTHING running at all, no
daemons at all, just twm as a window manager, and 1(one) xterm so I can run
top in it. And even if I do nothing, and just sit here and watch the screen,
X stays at  about 98% CPU usage.

>
> I have a Matrox G200 AGP (or whatever than fancy slot is). X points to
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA, whatever that proves.
>

I also have a Matrox, but mine is a Millenium MG400 AGP (DualHead). X is a
symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA on my system as well.

>
> I have no explanation other than my theory that there is a bug in X.
>

Well maybe it is and maybe it isnt. I compiled from source, and did not use
a binary distribution. Im running XFree86 4.01 right now, should I go back
to 4.0? Or go all the way back to 3.3.6? Or wait for 4.02 ?

Does anyone else have any idea on how to troubelshoot this issue?



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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set higher resolution text modes?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:11:47 +1100



Victor Dods wrote:

> I once was able in Slackware a few years ago to set the console text
> mode to resolutions of 100x60, 80x50 and so forth, but I can't remember
> how to do that at all anymore.  Can anyone enlighten me?
>
> Victor Dods

If your distribution supports frame buffering simple add to lilo.conf,
instead of
vga=normal, one of the numbers listed in fbdev howto.
The console fonts simple look great.
Have fun.
Stanislaw.


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