Linux-Misc Digest #316, Volume #26               Wed, 15 Nov 00 12:13:02 EST

Contents:
  dynamically add/remove ide HD ? (Laurent Bize)
  Using Vintech PCMCIA CD-ROM under Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Speed of JAVA / was: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Roland 
Mainz)
  Help!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Matthias Warkus)
  Dialin - Server (Robin Schroeder)
  Re: Dang those KDE rpms ("Nils O. Selåsdal")
  CUPS printing on HP: no color at 600 dpi ("Gerald Pollack")
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Donn Miller)
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Rasputin)
  Re: Mod_Perl on RH7 fails to make test ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Lan user log ("Regent Linus")
  ping problems (marvin)
  Re: Linux SendMail Problem - Internet Email Address Rejected (Frederick Artiss)
  Re: Linux SendMail Problem - Internet Email Address Rejected (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
  imap and ssh (Krister Bruhwel)
  Re: Lan user log (Koen Verbeke)
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: signals and C++ ("Arthur H. Gold")
  Re: Gamepsy 3d for Linux (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: mail notification? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Debian 2.2, VT320 and screen (Thomas Dickey)
  Commanding a DirectLogic PLC from Linux (or C) ("Dan Smith")
  Re: Commanding a DirectLogic PLC from Linux (or C) (Neil Cherry)
  Re: Lilo and moving an IDE disk (Gunther Piez)

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From: Laurent Bize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dynamically add/remove ide HD ?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:47:18 +0100

Just a question.
Could we add or remove dynamically IDE HD as scsi by the /proc interface
? 
echo "scsi remove-single-device 0 0 5 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi
echo "scsi add-single-device 0 0 5 0" > /proc/scsi/scsi

        Laurent

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Using Vintech PCMCIA CD-ROM under Linux
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:19:23 GMT

I really, really need help. The CDROM in my notebook computer is busted.
I am now using an external CDROM with a parallel port interface to
install Linux. I'd like to switch to a PCMCIA CDROM. There is one made
by Vintech in a store near us. Do PCMCIA CDROMs made by Vintech Linux
compatible? I don't see the Vintech models in the supported cards of
Linux's PCMCIA support. I am hoping that the Vintech CDROMs are actually
the same with one of those listed as supported by Linux. Vintech's web
site is http://www.vintech-tw.com


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From: Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Speed of JAVA / was: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:31:40 +0100

James Hutchins wrote:

> > > I hope that the two projects merge in the future in a language less
> > > sucky than either C or C++.
> >
> > Agreed.  They should write it in Java.  That way, KDE and GNOME could run on
> > an array of embedded applications (such as the Palm pilot).  We'll
> > see a lot less of Windows CE.  I'm tired of seeing Windows CE running on
> > embedded applications.
> 
> Java? Please, NO! I have a NEED for SPEED!! I don't think even hotspot can
> make up for the performance hit I'd take with java. When doing complex
> analyses on up to 10 gigs of byte-sized time series data, even a 15% speed
> hit is significant. So why accept it when you can just use C++?

JAVA isn't slow. JAVA apps. running on modern JDKs (like 1.3) can be as
fast as normal C++ code - and some code even runs faster as in C++.
JAVA-based (Multithreaded) MPEG 2 encoder/decoder comes in mind...

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Bye,
Roland

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help!!
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:33:05 GMT

Hi,
  I am a beginner on learning Linux. In my PC, I've already installed
Win98. Now I also want to install linux in order to dual-boot between
2 os. But every time when i am going on the last stage of installation--
----"Lilo setup", whatever i do , Lilo can't be installed.
  If i choose to use SCSI device, it looks like being ok. But when the
computer reboots, i can only see many blinking lines on my screen,
which means i can neither work on win98, nor Linux.
  If i choose not to use SCSI device, Lilo can't be installed and SETUP
can't be finished.
  Because there are some bad sectors on my hard-disk, i wonder whether
Lilo is just going to be installed on those bad sectors, which leads
the problem i get stuck in.
  There is anyone to help me to point out the reason and a way to solve
this problem.
  (There is no any SCSI device on my computer.)
Thanks!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:29:08 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:22:26 GMT...
...and Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Matthias Warkus> wrote:
> >It was the 14 Nov 2000 09:16:56 -0600...
> >...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I hope that the two projects merge in the future in a language less
> >> > sucky than either C or C++.
> >> 
> >> Agreed.  They should write it in Java.  That way, KDE and GNOME could run on
> >> an array of embedded applications (such as the Palm pilot).
> >
> >They already do without Java (essentially, all you need is a platform
> >that runs Linux, and most embedded systems do).
> 
> I think the ideal goal of any desktop environment should be language
> independance.

GNOME is pretty close (last time I checked, we had bindings for C,
C++, Objective C, Perl, Python, Ruby, Dylan, Haskell, Guile etc., and
that is GNOME bindings, not just GTK bindings).

> Java has bindings to CORBA, as does almost everything else.
> 
> Sure, you take a performance hit, but for GUIs that's a bit of a non-issue.

*Especially* for GUIs it's an issue. There's hand-optimised assembler
code in GNOME (in gdkpixbuf, to be exact), and it's there for a
reason.

mawa
-- 
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wrong.                                                 -- Hans Huettel

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From: Robin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dialin - Server
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:57:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi!

I want to administrate a Linux server from home by dialing in (over
ISDN, i4l), so I have to install a dialup-software on the server. Which
software can I use for it?

Robin

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Reply-To: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Selåsdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Dang those KDE rpms
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:18:30 +0100

Yes..
i removed KDE1 first installed the KDE2 rpms, and it ofcourse didnt find
some lib*** files
I found out what i needed was libmng**.rpm, and the latest QT-2.2.**.rpm(and
i ofcourse dont remember where i found them now, but it was pretty
easy..just search at google.com)
But its worth it, KDE 2 rules
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8uu4j0$4bp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> I have been fighting tooth and nail to install the new KDE 2.0 rpms on
> my Redhat 7.0 Box.
>
> Anytime I install the KDE rpms (any rpms really) I usually install them
> with
> rpm -Uhiv kdewhatever.rpm
>
> but then it complains that it doesn't have a certain lib****.so
> then I was told to just force them in using
> rpm -ivv kde*.rpm
>
> THAT completely screwed my system up. Now, I guess the only way to
> install the new KDE 2.0 is to uninstall the kde 1.*** and then try to
> reinstall the 2.0 while praying that it will work.
>
> HAS ANYBODY INSTALLED THE NEW KDE 2.0 RPM's and did it sucessfully? If
> so.. p.p.please let me know how to do it :-(
>
>
>
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From: "Gerald Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CUPS printing on HP: no color at 600 dpi
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:32:42 GMT

I've just installed the CUPS printing software on my Mandrake 7.0 system.
I have an HP 842c printer, and I installed the HP deskjet driver included
in the CUPS package (cups-1.1.4-linux-2.2.14-intel.rpm). I've used the
web-based configuration tool, and selected the color option. Everything's
fine at 300 dpi, but when I set resolution to 300 dpi output is greyscale
rather than color. Are there other/better drivers that provide
high-resolution, color output?

Thanks,

-- 
G. Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill Univ.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donn Miller)
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Date: 15 Nov 2000 09:30:32 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja) writes:

> Didn't you hear about Sun and other UNIX vendors jumping for GNOME as
> the unified UNIX desktop?
> 
> M$ wants to hit that, I think.

Funny how MS doesn't want to sue over KDE/Qt.  That particular project
accomplishes the same exact goal as GNOME, but yet I haven't heard of
companies willing to support KDE like they have GNOME.

How exactly is MS going to stop an open source project like GNOME/Gtk?  This
should be interesting.  What I think they'll accomplish is stopping vendors
like Sun from incorporating GNOME into their desktops.

As before, it's funny how MS should be suing over look 'n' feel.  Remember
the Macintosh and the Amiga?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:40:09 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Matthias Warkus> wrote:
>It was the Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:22:26 GMT...
>...and Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>GNOME is pretty close (last time I checked, we had bindings for C,
>C++, Objective C, Perl, Python, Ruby, Dylan, Haskell, Guile etc., and
>that is GNOME bindings, not just GTK bindings).
>

<nods> that's the point I was making; didn't know there were so many,
though.

>> Java has bindings to CORBA, as does almost everything else.
>> 
>> Sure, you take a performance hit, but for GUIs that's a bit of a non-issue.
>*Especially* for GUIs it's an issue. There's hand-optimised assembler
>code in GNOME (in gdkpixbuf, to be exact), and it's there for a
>reason.

Yeah, since 1.2 GNOME has gotten quite usable.

So are there plans to use imlib2 in there at all?
I've not seen any definitive benchmarks, but it
seems a fair bit faster (than gdkpixbuf) to me.

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mod_Perl on RH7 fails to make test
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:32:45 GMT



Hi greg: What does "httpd -l" give you?

Regards, /iaw


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It runs right out of the box for me.  If you installed apache and
mod_perl, it
> just works.
>
> I run a production web driven database using HTML::EmbPerl on Mod_Perl
at work
> on RH7.  It didn't take any extra configuration steps other than
configuring
> apache to recognize *.epl as embedded perl pages.
>
> -- Greg
>
> In <8u98r8$isn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >In article <MYrE5.1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > I am trying to install mod_perl on a RedHat7 2.2.16-22 box, with
> >> > apache_1.3.12 .
> >>
> >> Why not use those that are shipped with RedHat 7? Apache 1.3.12
> >> and modperl 1.24.
> >
> >Confusion on my end:  plain redhat 7 system, nothing tinkered with.
> >"rpm -q -a | grep mod_perl " tells me that mod_perl-1.24-4 is
installed.
> > But "http -l" (apache 1.3.12) tells me that only http_core.c and
> >mod_so.c are compiled in.  No mod_perl listed.
> >
> >Would mod_perl be loaded dynamically, or does apache require
> >recompiling?
> >
> >/iaw
> >
> >
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From: "Regent Linus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Lan user log
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:42:03 +0800

Hi,

my Lan have 4 Window PCs  and 1 Linux, sharing the files by Samba,
is it possible to log the PC's user login ,and logout time by whatever
ways?

Any clues or suggestions greatly appreciated.



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From: marvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ping problems
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:44:15 +0100

Hi !

I am newbie to Linux and need a little bit help.

I succeeded to install Network card 3com905b on PC running RedHat 6.2.
Now, when Im doing telnet, the first connection is very slow (approx 
10sec), but after logged in once at the remote, then telnet is doing 
fine.

Also I have noticed, that PING is very strange. Something like

1 packet        0.3ms
2 packet     3990ms
3 packet     6800ms
4 packet     9500ms 

etc..
^C shows 79% loss

If Im doing ping -f <host> then dot and blank are changing very fast and
after ^C I get 0% loss   (10000 packets sent, all received)

Tracerout shows 2 packets
<from me> TO <gateway>    0.300ms
<gateway> TO <remotehost> 0.290ms

Is it possible that driver is not valid ?  (Driver module in 
/etc/conf.module is 3c59x)
Also, ifconfig for eth0 is
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:15000 Metric:1
txqueuelen=100  Interrupt:18 (In ROMBIOS setup, IRQ for that card is 10)  
Base 0x1000

Any hint would help
Best Regards
Marvin

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From: Frederick Artiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,aus.computers.linux,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux SendMail Problem - Internet Email Address Rejected
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:47:34 GMT

A lot of people have configured their mail servers to reject mail from
hosts known to be dynamically assigned by ISPs, believing all such mail
is spam. The solution is to either use your ISP's smtp server directly
or to configure your own mail program to use it as a relay host. Then
the spam filters will let it through. It's a pain in the ass because it
requires more internet traffic, but it's the only thing that works.


dilip nayak wrote:
> 
> I think the problem is relaying
> 
> "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:hJBO5.25$3T2.155@client...
> > We are running Linux Slackware with SendMail installed.  Both internal and
> > external email has been running well.
> >
> > Lately, we have another site connected to us and share our mail server.
> > They can send and receive internal email without problem.  But for
> Internet
> > mail, they can only receive.  Whatever messages they send to the Internet,
> > they will get the following error message:
> >
> >         The message could not be sent because one of
> >         the recepients is rejected by the server.  The
> >         rejected email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Can anyone shed some lights on it please?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,aus.computers.linux,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux SendMail Problem - Internet Email Address Rejected
Date: 15 Nov 2000 15:50:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frederick Artiss proclaimed on comp.mail.sendmail that:

> A lot of people have configured their mail servers to reject mail from
> hosts known to be dynamically assigned by ISPs, believing all such mail

I dont see any signs of the MAPS DUL being used to reject that mail.
Maybe this guy is trying to send to / through a server that filters / blocks
freemail domains like hotmail / yahoo etc?

        +suresh

> > "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:hJBO5.25$3T2.155@client...

> > >         The message could not be sent because one of
> > >         the recepients is rejected by the server.  The
> > >         rejected email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Krister Bruhwel)
Subject: imap and ssh
Date: 15 Nov 2000 10:48:56 -0500

I'm trying to use a different mail program than netscape.  I would like
to use a terminal based program like Pine (or another one if its 
easier to set up).  My problem is that my work area uses imap with
the secure shell.  All the docs I read on setting up Pine or the
Imap Server don't talk about the SSH part.  Netscape takes care of
it with a SSH button in the prefs.  When I talk to the computer
center at work they say "use Netscape we don't support programs like
Pine".  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks, Krister

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
From: Koen Verbeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lan user log
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:15:38 GMT

Today at 11:42pm, Regent Linus wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> my Lan have 4 Window PCs  and 1 Linux, sharing the files by Samba,
> is it possible to log the PC's user login ,and logout time by whatever
> ways?
> 
> Any clues or suggestions greatly appreciated.


Have a look at the samba logs. If you run SWAT (Samba Web Admin Tool (?)),
you can configure samba very easily and see in realtime who's logged on
and what resources are being used by whoever. You can also set the
verbosity of the logs from bare to downright ugly ;-).


Ciao,
        - Koen


________________________________
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:26:42 GMT


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donn Miller) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja) writes:
> 
> > Didn't you hear about Sun and other UNIX vendors jumping for GNOME as
> > the unified UNIX desktop?
> > 
> > M$ wants to hit that, I think.
> 
> Funny how MS doesn't want to sue over KDE/Qt.  That particular project
> accomplishes the same exact goal as GNOME, but yet I haven't heard of
> companies willing to support KDE like they have GNOME.
> 
> How exactly is MS going to stop an open source project like GNOME/Gtk?  This
> should be interesting.  What I think they'll accomplish is stopping vendors
> like Sun from incorporating GNOME into their desktops.
> 
> As before, it's funny how MS should be suing over look 'n' feel.  Remember
> the Macintosh and the Amiga?

Can you post that URL again?  There were several items that I missed.
I think that Trolltech's being a European companiy has a lot to do
with it, as well as the more public nature of GNOME's funding.  
Microsoft would have to think about antitrust and intellectual 
property issues before they could do anything.  It's not a good
time for them, I would think.

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html  http://www.mainmatter.com/

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:51:17 -0600
From: "Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: signals and C++

Markus Kremer wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to catch a division by zero error in a C++ manner?
> 
> I want to do
> 
> try {
> 
>     i=a/0;
> 
> }
> 
> catch (...)
> 
> {
> 
>  cerr<<"My fault";
> 
> }
> 
> Where can i get more information about C++ and signals?
> 
> bye
> 
> Markus
Signals are signals, exceptions are exceptions.
I suppose you could install a handler for the signal that
causes the exception...but why?

HTH,
--ag
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Gamepsy 3d for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:30:11 GMT

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:55:11 +0100, Deech wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a linux version of Gamespy3D. Or maybe
> an alternative?

Try XQF, a GUI frontend for Qstat:

<http://www.activesw.com/people/steve/qstat.html>
<http://www.linuxgames.com/xqf/>

HTH,
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: mail notification?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:34:37 GMT

In article <8utt6k$8ih$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Simon Oosthoek wrote:

>> anyone know of a good way to be alerted when you have received mail? 
>
>how about xbuffy (can handle multiple mailboxes)

There's also gbuffy: multiple mailboxes and has IMAP and POP
support.

-- 
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                                  at               DUCK EXHIBIT??
                               visi.com            

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:57:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:40:09 GMT...
...and Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >GNOME is pretty close (last time I checked, we had bindings for C,
> >C++, Objective C, Perl, Python, Ruby, Dylan, Haskell, Guile etc., and
> >that is GNOME bindings, not just GTK bindings).
> >
> 
> <nods> that's the point I was making; didn't know there were so many,
> though.

For plain GTK+, even more. It's mayhem. But they seem to be
surprisingly well-maintained for the biggest part.
 
> >> Java has bindings to CORBA, as does almost everything else.
> >> 
> >> Sure, you take a performance hit, but for GUIs that's a bit of a non-issue.
> >*Especially* for GUIs it's an issue. There's hand-optimised assembler
> >code in GNOME (in gdkpixbuf, to be exact), and it's there for a
> >reason.
> 
> Yeah, since 1.2 GNOME has gotten quite usable.
> 
> So are there plans to use imlib2 in there at all?
> I've not seen any definitive benchmarks, but it
> seems a fair bit faster (than gdkpixbuf) to me.

Gdkpixbuf was conceived before Imlib2, and its goals are a bit
different. There's a section somewhere in one of the GNOME FAQs that
details why GNOME 2.0 won't use Imlib2.

mawa
-- 
        Garde-toi, tant que tu vivras,
                De juger des gens sur la mine.
                                                        -- La Fontaine

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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian 2.2, VT320 and screen
Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:49:11 GMT

Tatu Saily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a VT320 text terminal connected to my PC running Debian GNU/Linux 2.2.
> The problem is that if I use 'screen', the programs seem to think that my
> terminal supports colors. That makes some programs like 'lynx' and 'jed'
> look a bit strange or even unusable.

programs linked with slang tend to ignore the actual capabilities of the
terminal (that's the first place I'd check, e.g., in case you have $COLORTERM
or other such stuff in your environment).

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ftp://dickey.his.com

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From: "Dan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Commanding a DirectLogic PLC from Linux (or C)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:13:38 -0500

I really want to buy a PLC for data monitoring and controlling external
devices.  I know that there are plenty of programs for windows that control
these devices, but I wanted to know if anyone has any experience with
controlling them from linux...  I would like to find a program that is
already implemented to control them, but would also be happy with a set of C
libraries that would allow me to easily write such a program... I wouldn't
mind creating such a library with the appropriate documentation about the
data needed to control the PLC..

Does anyone have any experience / information on this?

Thanks!

--Dan



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: Commanding a DirectLogic PLC from Linux (or C)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:57:57 GMT

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:13:38 -0500, Dan Smith wrote:
>I really want to buy a PLC for data monitoring and controlling external
>devices.  I know that there are plenty of programs for windows that control
>these devices, but I wanted to know if anyone has any experience with
>controlling them from linux...  I would like to find a program that is
>already implemented to control them, but would also be happy with a set of C
>libraries that would allow me to easily write such a program... I wouldn't
>mind creating such a library with the appropriate documentation about the
>data needed to control the PLC..
>
>Does anyone have any experience / information on this?

I'm not familiar with any for this PLC, the only one I've seen so far
has been the Allen/Bradley PLC (link on my page). If you do find one
for it please let me know and I'll add it to my pages.

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From: Gunther Piez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lilo and moving an IDE disk
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:00:42 +0100

hi phil,

> I wish to have the following IDE config
> 
> CD             Mobo Pri
> CDRW       Mobo Sec
> IBM HD     HPT370 Pri
> ST HD        HPT370 Sec

depending on your bios setup (onboard controller boots first or pci 
controller boots first, for the latter you need a seperate bios in your 
highpoint) you need a line

boot=/dev/hda

or

boot=/dev/hde

in your lilo.conf.

> "Fatal : Not a number : "/dev/hde2"

this happens if /dev/hde doesn't exist at the time you ran lilo.


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                                                 the linux architects
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