Linux-Misc Digest #414, Volume #26 Tue, 28 Nov 00 10:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: E-mail client (Sebastian Hans)
Re: Where can I get a pre-built POSE for Linux ? (Peter da Silva)
Re: Good Linux distro for older Pentium box, your take? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: End Task Command (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: mp3 player with Linux support (Jeff McWilliams)
Lprng printer scripts (Neil Cherry)
Re: Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC (NorbertSchmidt)
HOW TO free up 60 MB of disk space. (Robert Kiesling)
Which distribution should I get? (also: will my modem work?) ("Alex Stoll")
Re: Partitioning questions ("Alex Stoll")
Libraries (Tim Jarrett)
Re: Newbie: difference between... (Andrew Purugganan)
What RealPlayer version do u have? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Problem compiling kernel (Reiner Griess)
Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... (Mike Raeder)
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From: Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:41:56 +0100
LuisMiguel Figueiredo wrote:
>
> I just asked that because i don't know any e-mail clientd beside pine...
> I was just looking for suggestions based on experience,
The answers you'll get on any question of that kind will mainly be
answers based on personal preference.
xterm -e mutt
:-)
Ciao.
seb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Where can I get a pre-built POSE for Linux ?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 12:32:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Stuart Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From the posts I've seen - 2 in this sub-thread - that makes me half a
>mob.
"Oi, you there, get back in line! How I'm supposed to storm the
bleeding Bastille with only half a mob, I don't know. Bloody
rabble today, got bleeding discipline..."
>And that because I complained about his 3000+ line posting without the
>use of invective or profanity.
"Roight, if you're going to post 3000 line messages, I want to
see some bleeding invective there. Profanity, too, if your
bleeding lillywhite fingers can be bothered. Bloody poor
excuse for a mob, you are."
>What's _your_ problem with TWO people complaining about such a post?
The fact that you were complaining, in public, when the poor blighter hadn't
done it before. A polite note in email out of the light of his peers is much
more productive, the way you mob put things it sounded like he was making a
habit of posting uuencoded mpegs of snuff porn to net.suicide.
--
Rev. Peter da Silva, ULC. WWFD?
"Be conservative in what you generate, and liberal in what you accept"
-- Matthew 10:16 (l.trans)
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good Linux distro for older Pentium box, your take?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:48:30 +0100
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, //.././ wrote:
> I have a Pentium 166 with 64 meg of RAM and a separate 6 gig harddisk
> for linux. I used to run Red Hat 6.0; the performance was good, although
> it pages quite a bit when GIMP and Netscape are used (especially at the
> same time). Recently I upgraded to Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I noticed a
> performance hit, to the point of being annoying. (I also have a problem
> with no sound, but that's another issue).
> I'm thinking of switching to some (possibly older) distribution. I have
> couple choices: RedHat 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, or Corel Linux 2nd ed. (I don't
> have the RH6.0 disks anymore).
> What would you recommend? My priorities are: stability, performance
> (with stability being slightly more important).
I have a P75 w/ 64 megs at home which I just switched from RH 4.0 to Suse
6.4 (Suse b/c of its support for German telekom's DSL). Didn't notice any
performance hit and would recommend using a recent distro/version. What
would decrease performance is using one of those heavyweight desktops, ie
gnome or kde. I use wm2 (any simple wm will do) plus tkdesk and am
perfectly happy.
Gerald
PS: perhaps also try switching X from 32 to 16 bit color
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: End Task Command
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:07:29 GMT
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 04:30:18 -0000, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does Linux have an equivalent to MS Windows '98 command Ctrl-Alt-Delete and
>then End Task so that you can reset the computer if it is stalled or
>"frozen" without completely rebooting the computer?
man xkill
man kill
man killall
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy
Date: 28 Nov 2000 14:19:42 +0100
"Tim Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, I'm still stuck on this, but I have to say I'm very grateful for the
> response I've gotten so far. Since my original posting, I've tried the
> following:
> 1) I did a "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=data/temp bs=1 skip=2048", using Stefano
> Ghirlanda's suggestion to skip the error.
Have you tried sdd also? It is more robust than dd.
--
Stefano
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff McWilliams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mp3 player with Linux support
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:22:18 GMT
What he means, is there a portable MP3 player on the market, like the
Diamond RIO, Creative Labs Nomad, or AudioVox MP-1000 that supports
a Linux application for transferring the mp3 files from your PC to the player.
I see the confusion. XMMS is a software program that plays mp3
files on Linux. People call it an mp3 player. In this case however, an mp3
player is something you wear on your belt like a Sony Walkman, that contains
32 or 64M of flash storage space and plays mp3's that you listen to with
headphones.
I don't know the answer to the question though. My 10 year old daughter
just received the AudioVox MP-1000 for Christmas from her
Grandparents and I'm envious!
In article <9LFU5.48575$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Schaumann wrote:
>* "Ralph Blach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is there an MP3 player with decent linux support. Ie, I can the files
>> from linux to the player easily
>
>Your question is hard to understand, at leas the second part. However,
>for any application you might want for linux, try
>http://www.freshmeat.net and/or http://www.linuxberg.com
>
>You might be interested in xmms.
>
>>
>> --
>
>You sig-delimiter is wrong - it should be "-- " and not "--".
>
>-Jan
>
>P.S.: fup2 comp.os.linux.misc and NOT to comp.os.linux.hardware, since
>this has no relation whatsoever to hardware.
>
Sure it does. We're talking about a hardware device here and whether
Linux can communicate to it or not.
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Lprng printer scripts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:50:06 GMT
I have an HP500C connected to a JetDirect EX (which works fine) and I
need to modify the scripts so that when it is called it calls another
command to power up the printer (and JetDirect). I've played with all
the scripts in the rhs-printfilters directory (added set >>/tmp/foo)
but never see them executed. Any ideas?
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: NorbertSchmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help on rescuing my linux os on my PC
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:48:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the first place, try to press Strg-Alt-Del shortly after the X-Server
starts, this should kill the x-server and you should be able to switch
to a normal Console.
If everything fails, try to telnet your box from another machine if you
have a network installed....
good luck
Norbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> If you have somehow gotten a CMOS password, you'll probably have
> to short the CMOS Reset jumper momentarily (1/2 second should do) on
> the motherboard. Check the motherboard manual to find out which
> jumper it is. Then you'll have to reset your CMOS settings.
>
> Once you have the ability to boot from floppy, do that.
> If your boot loader is LILO, you may be able to fix your problem
> by passing an init level to the kernel that prevents trying to
> go into X. On some distros, the init level for text mode is 3, on
> some it is 2. Look at your documentation to see which it is.
> If text mode is 2, try this at the lilo prompt
>
> BOOT> linux init 2
>
> This assumes that "BOOT>" is the boot prompt from LILO; that
> the name of the kernel is "linux" and that run level 2 is the text
> mode. From there, you can log on and fix "/etc/XF86Config" using the
> program "XF86Setup". Another option on some distros is the program
> "xf86config". Note that the case is different between the two
> programs. I have always had better luck with "xf86config".
>
> In comp.os.linux.setup Jianxin Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi , I have Linux mandrak 7.0 installed on my PC. Yestoday, I
> > accidentally changed the configuration file (XF86Setup), and afterward,
> > I can not start the X server. The os constantly tries to start the
> > server, and left the screen blank most of the time. Is there any fix for
> > it? I guess that I may have to use the flopy boot disk to start the os
> > or reinstall the os, but something suprizing happened after I tried to
> > put the flopy into the drive: lilo ignores the flopy disk and still
> > tries to start the os from the hard drive(I am sure the flopy drive is
> > woring properly) ! I guess that I may need to change the CMOS settings,
> > so I rebooted the machine and hitted the DEL key to invoke the CMOS
> > setup, I got another surprise: I can not access the CMOS setup screen!
> > the computer askes me to "Please enter current password:"!
> > I have never setup any password using the option of the setup superuser
> > password in the CMOS, I had no trouble before in accessing the CMOS
> > setup. What had happed here? What should I do to enable the CMOS access
> > and rescue my linux os? Please help!
>
> > JW
>
> --
>
> -- Gene Wiggins
> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Norbert Schmidt
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Germany
Tel: +49 228 9838625
Fax: +49 228 631339
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Subject: HOW TO free up 60 MB of disk space.
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:54:46 GMT
I received this in my e-mail this morning. I guess
Adobe's not interested in Linux....
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From: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which distribution should I get? (also: will my modem work?)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:35:48 -0600
Reply-To: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a K6-2, 500MHz, and 128MB of RAM. I've never used Linux before. I
would like to work with my files from Windows 98. I plan on using Linux
mainly for internet and word processing. My modem doesn't work in DOS - it's
a "software modem" or a "winmodem" or something, I think (It's a "Lucent Win
Modem") - will it work in :Linux? Which distribution of Linux would work
best for me? Thanks a lot in advance,
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From: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning questions
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:39:25 -0600
Reply-To: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm using almost all of my 8.4GB drive right now. On my new drive, I'd like
to have only a couple partitions - so, should I make a 20MB one called
"/boot" and a about 4GB one called "/", and leave the rest for my FAT32
Windows files?
Also, how do I name partitions?
> All distros that come with a paper manual should include a chapter on
> partitioning the hard drive, your options in doing so, and advice on the
> best way to do it. Generally, you make a small partition on the first
> drive that's within the 1024-cylinder (8G) limit and call that /boot .
> If you're not using the last partition on your old 8G drive for much
> atm, put all of its stuff elsewhere, delete that last partition, and
> make a 20M Linux partition + a 1.9G FAT partition in the space that 2G
> partition used to occupy.
>
> People have had massive discussions on how large the Linux partitions
> need to be. Basically, you want one swap partition of about 128M.
> Everything else is up in the air and will depend on what you want to do
> with your machine. Often, people will create one big / partition to
> hold everything, but there are some good reasons for separating this big
> partition into / , /var, /home, /usr, and /usr/local/ . / should be as
> small as you can make it, /var should be a couple hundred M, /usr should
> take up a lot of space, and /home should too.
>
> You can fit a lot of stuff into 2G of space, but if you want to store a
> lot of data and/or have a lot of Linux programs hanging around, you'll
> want at least 4G. Linux can read and write to FAT16 and FAT32
> partitions without problems, but Windoze can't read ext2 filesystems at
> all. There's a program called "explore2fs" which lets you read and
> write ext2 partitions from 9x/NT, but 'Doze programs can't work
> with files on ext2--you must use explore2fs to copy things over to a FAT
> partition.
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From: Tim Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Libraries
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:32:55 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tried to upgrade my copy of enlightenment-0.15 to enlightenment-0.16.
I uninstalled 0.15 via rpm, and then installed 0.16 also via rpm. All
good except for a few failed dependencies, namely libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2),
and libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3). I currently have GLIBC 2.1.1, but I am a
little confused with respect to how enlightenment, or any program, can
depend on libc.so.6 from two different versions of the C standard
library. If the libc.so.6 is a link that points to the correct library
image i.e. libc.so.6.xx.yy, how am I meant to have both the libraries
(2.1.3 and 2.2) and my old ones (2.1.1) on my system? The other strange
thing is that when I tried to install the rpm's of glibc (2.2 and
2.1.3), I got a "basesystem" dependency error for 2.1.3 (any idea what
that is?) and a "glibc 2.2 conflicts with rpm-4.0.6x" error for glibc
2.2.
*Any* help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance
TCJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: Newbie: difference between...
Date: 28 Nov 2000 14:32:43 GMT
Reiner Griess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ can anybody eplain, what's the differenc between /usr/sbin and
[ /usr/local/sbin. OK, I see there is a difference, but what should I put into
[ /usr/local...? /sbin has an historically background, I know. But
[ /usr/local/sbin?
a lot of RPMs or software packages that you will be downloading may be
set up in such a way as to put the executables or commands there
You may choose to put your own homegrown stuff in there as well. Helps
distinguish between software that came 'out-of-the-box' with your distro
vs. stuff you've d/loaded & installed yourself. Later when you upgrade
this can either be trashed or saved
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: What RealPlayer version do u have?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 14:39:38 GMT
My RealPlayer (free) has expired and has been nagging me to upgrade. When
I go check out RealPlayer Basic 8 they only have Win, Mac, and Unix
versions. Does this mean I can grab the Unix version? I am currently on
Mandrake 6.0 Venus with a 2.2-13mdk kernel.
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reiner Griess)
Subject: Re: Problem compiling kernel
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:12:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Nov 2000 20:59:47 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One obvious thing wrong is that you're not in the 2.2.16-22 directory.
>Another thing wrong is that you're using 2.2.16-22 instead of
>a pristine 2.2.16. Another thing wrong is that you're using 2.2.16
>instead of 2.2.17.
>
>Taken altogether, you don't have much hope! You didn't say but that
>looks like a redhat adulteration so try bothering them about it.
>
>I would suspect you've unarchived one kernel source over another
>kernel source directory, with result = hopeless mess. Either that
>or you applied patches to the wrong things and didn't notice
>about 90% of the failures. Just my guesses, in the absence of info ..
>
>Peter
Thank you, I've installed headers and source again and now it works.
bye
reiner
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From: Mike Raeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:12:57 -0500
Frank Van Damme wrote:
> One remark: Tux was never meant to be taken serious. It reflects the
> character of the linux community: just a stupid picture, don't think too
> much about it, it's part of the fun. Your penguinos look good, very good,
> but they're too serious. Does making your penguins humorous sound like
> rape?
I'm waiting for someone to do a Japanese Anime Tux!
--
My Australian Shepherd is smarter than your honour student
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