Linux-Misc Digest #419, Volume #26 Tue, 28 Nov 00 20:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: mp3 player with Linux support (Lee Wevbb)
Re: RH6.2 and Athlon, Asus A7V (Lee Wevbb)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down (Chris Menzel)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down (Chris Menzel)
Re: Which distribution should I get? (also: will my modem work?) ("Alex Stoll")
Re: XSCREENSAVER ("Michael Perry")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down (Chris Menzel)
Re: IP Masquerading (I need help! please!) (Kevin)
Re: Cdrecord. (Tony Spinillo)
Re: Cdrecord. (Paul Lew)
Re: PC puts through telephone calls ("Richard Snow")
Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Filesystem problems: bdflush, update, kflush, kupdate questions (Dances With
Crows)
Re: Partitioning questions (Dances With Crows)
Re: End Task Command (Dances With Crows)
root filesystem resore from tape ("Jeremy Rogers")
Mount mysteries (John Gog)
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From: Lee Wevbb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mp3 player with Linux support
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:07:21 +0000
The Diamond Rio seems to have people developing connection software:
http://rio500.sourceforge.net/
http://www.world.co.uk/sba/rio.htm
Lee.
Ralph Blach wrote:
> Is there an MP3 player with decent linux support. Ie, I can the files
> from linux to
> the player easily
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From: Lee Wevbb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH6.2 and Athlon, Asus A7V
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:10:19 +0000
Just to clarify:
Basically, the kernel can be built to look at the Pentium III's (dreaded)
serial ID. This is what's happening here: but an Athlon doesn't have one,
so it fails (quite dramatically).
Thus the lilo param of x86_serial_nr=1 basically means that we don't have a
PIII so don't bother trying to look for an ID...
Hope this helps.
Lee.
Mark Jensen wrote:
> Had similar experience. Kernal needs to be booted to disable the serial
> number check (or was this serial id?).
>
> From lilo add parameter "x86_serial_nr=1"
>
> example:
>
> LILO: linux x86_serial_nr=1
>
> I had been told to rebuild the kernal disabling the check, but instead I
> have LILO supply the parameter each time.
> Did this by editing the lilo configuration file.
>
> Don't know much more than this, but it worked for me!
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark
>
> "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have recently upgraded my computer to:
> >
> > Athlon 850 Socket A
> > Asus A7V Motherboard
> > 256Mb
> >
> > I have reinstalled RedHat 6.2 but when I boot the new installation I
get a
> > general protection fault whilst it is trying to 'disable CPUID serial
> > number'. The redhat rescue disk, and installation disk, boot fine so I
> guess
> > it is a problem with the configuration of the kernel that RedHat has
> > installed.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas how I can get my kernel to load successfully ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Menzel)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down
Date: 28 Nov 2000 23:16:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:35:35 -0500, Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> try 'halt -p' or 'shutdown now'
Tried that, thanks.
> be happy, my upgrade for 7.1 to 7.2 failed on 2 machines....although it was
> no problem clean installing ...
I know others for whom a clean install of 7.2 died -- after reformatting
the disk and before installing the kernel.
> ... since i have a /home on a seperate partition
As you should!
-chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Menzel)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down
Date: 28 Nov 2000 23:31:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:10:07 -0600, mpulliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Chris Menzel wrote:
>
> > I just upgraded from Mandrake 7.0 to to 7.2. ... After
> > shutting down processes it generates the message "INIT: No more
> > processes in this
> > runlevel" at which point the machine just sits there.
>
> I had the same problem, and I got myself to
> a command prompt at that point, logged in as root, and
> issued shutdown -h now
> which finished the job. I just put 7.2 on here last night
> and can't tell you quite how I got to the prompt -
Well, you still must have had some tty processes running or you wouldn't
have been able to get to a virtual console. Mine are all hosed by the
time I get the INIT message.
-chris
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From: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distribution should I get? (also: will my modem work?)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:28:41 -0600
Reply-To: "Alex Stoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Which driver should I get? Will I be able to get on the internet?
> As to the modem, as a Lucent software modem, you can probably get it
> working, but you'll need a third-party driver, available in compiled
> form ONLY. It's available from:
>
> http://www.linmodems.org/
>
> It was compiled for one of the Red Hat 6.x distributions (I don't recall
> which one exactly), but works with at least some others. No guarantees,
> though. You might find it worthwhile to ditch the thing in favor of a
> real modem; the Lucent software modem drivers aren't the most stable in
> the world.
Thanks in advance,
--
Alex Stoll
N22YF [at] AlexStoll [dot] cjb [dot] net
(remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://www.Alex.AlexStoll.cjb.net/
http://AlexStoll.cjb.net/futureframe.htm
AIM - N22YF
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: XSCREENSAVER
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:52:11 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gotzon Berrojalbiz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to get XSCREENSAVER started when I start a X-Window
> session. Now I have to activate it manually but I would like to
> initialize the countdown when I start a X-Window session. I've been told
> in an IRC channel that I have to create a ".xinitrc" file in my /home
> directory but I have no idea about how to do this.
>
> THANKS
Use a text editor as the user you login as. Try this:
vi .xinitrc
then enter in said file:
exec xscreensaver &
exec urwindowmanagerhere <whatever you use>
Mine looks like this:
exec xscreensaver &
exec wmaker
Don't forget the the little "&" after the first one. Do not put an & after
the last one.
--
Michael Perry,
Linuxcare, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.linuxcare.com
Linuxcare. Support for the Revolution.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Menzel)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 won't shut down
Date: 28 Nov 2000 23:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:41:48 +0100, Eugene Grob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It took me more a week to get everything again running after uphrading
> fron mdk 7.0 to 7.2.
Yup. I like 7.2 just fine -- now that I've sunk more time into the
upgrade than it was worth after fixing everything that the install
program broke. Mandrake pretty clearly sent it out with the
that program half-baked. The 7.0-7.2 upgrade seems to be the most
problematic, from what I've been reading.
> Have a look un Mandrake 7.2 upgrades on their website, it's worth to
> upgrade everything you can find there , specially the KDE, CUPS and
> modtools upgrades.
I'll try that, thanks.
-chris
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From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masquerading (I need help! please!)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:30:05 -0000
Hello! Dualip
I Use redhat 7
can u tell me if the ipchain is in /sbin/ directory?
and how do i install this ipchain?
How can i find out if this is installed?
is it include in the redhat cd?
I know these question are stupid! but the stupid boy need your help!
thank
hope to see your reply!
DualIP wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:30:13 -0000, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hello
> > hope someone out there can help!
> >I am trying to set up IP Masquerading to share my internet connection!
> >My Linux Box as gateway for one window NT machine.
> >My problem is that I can ping both machine and can ping the internet
with
> >my Linux Box! But I can`t ping the internet with my window machine!
> >I wonder if anyone have the same problem!
> >
> >i try /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall
> >but it return saying that
> >/sbin/ipchains:No such file or directory
> >
> >but i have made this file?
> >why? why?
> >
> It can't find the ipchains program in the /sbin/ directory.
> It is either not installed , or installed to some other dir....
>
> DualIP
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Tony Spinillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.periph.cdrom
Subject: Re: Cdrecord.
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:33:56 GMT
Federico,
Have you tried the latest cdrecord - cdrtools-1.10a07? There is a
blurb in the release notes about a fix for some IDE drives.
Tony
Federico Baraldi wrote:
>
> "Kenneth Rørvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > I had the same error messages, only after write, while trying to fixate.
> > Turned out to be a defective CDRW unit.
>
> My Mitsumi works well under Windoze .... and the error occour while
> starting to write .....
>
> Federico.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.periph.cdrom
Subject: Re: Cdrecord.
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:37:39 GMT
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Federico Baraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Kenneth Rørvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> I had the same error messages, only after write, while trying to fixate.
>> Turned out to be a defective CDRW unit.
>
>My Mitsumi works well under Windoze .... and the error occour while
>starting to write .....
>
>Federico.
>
>
Did you specify the device (e.g. /dev/scd1) when doing mkisofs? If you
had used cdrecord 1.9, then I found that version required it when I first
used it (at least with my system).
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Reply-To: "Richard Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Richard Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: PC puts through telephone calls
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:37:53 GMT
The Yahoo Messenger program on Windows includes Net2Phone. There is a Yahoo
Messenger for Linux but I don't know if it includes these features as well.
"Kevin White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:aizU5.46294$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've not dealt with this before but you may want to check out some of the
> ham radio utilities for linux dealing with phone patches. I know ham
> operators can patch a phone call trough their equipment to local #'s and
> I know linux has several ham oriented utilities...
>
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ekkard Gerlach"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ** who the hell kills the body of my mail I posted
> > ** already two times? Because of my old subject:
> > ** "Handy -> PC put through -> somewhere else" ???
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > somebody knows how I can configure my PC (Linux) to put through a
> > telephone call to another site ? I have ISDN (two lines) with an
> > ISDN-card and an analog adapter for old analog telephones an modems.
> >
> > I want to dial xxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyy where xxxxxxxx is the number of my PC
> > and yyyyyyyy is the number the PC has to put through.
> >
> > The aim is to save money: calls from handy to special numbers
> > (like my home area with my PC)
> > are very cheap as well as ALL calls from home (my PC) to somewhere else
> > by wire (non-radio).
> >
> > Has somebody an idea how to realise? Are there perhaps only Windows
> > tools for this?
> >
> > thx Ekkard
> >
> >
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:38:41 -0500
the_blur wrote:
>
> > No, but that's beside the point here. The point is that criticiszing
> > a dumb symbol like a penguin or a daemon or whatever has nothing to do
> > with the OS or its development. It's simply a bunch of greasy-fingered
> > cretins trying to grab part of the "action."
>
> Hi Bob, make sure you mention to the KDE and GNOME GUI teams that you think
> of them as greasy-fingered cretins.
>
> Interesting that you chose to refer to it as a dumb symbol. If it symbolizes
> linux as a whole, linux is dumb (and glassy eyed...from recompiling kernels
> so may times no doubt =). You get it?
>
> Dumb symbol = Dumb project = Dumb OS = Dumb people. You're probably just not
> familiar enough with snooty design principles which I have studied at length
> to understand why it's important for the linux symbol to represent freedom,
> hard volunteer work, cooperation, stability and growth. I do. That's why
> it's important that people not see linux as a stupid penguin with a glassy
> look on his face.
That's like choosing which new fighter to purchase based...
not on flight performance
not on weaponry
not on top speeed
not on operational range
not on airframe ruggedness...
but throwing that ALL out the window...
and making your selection based on the various contenders' NOSE ART.
>
> I wasn't criticizing the little BSD daemon, he's really cute. Tux isn't. Tux
> has a dead glassy/insane look about him that makes me rather uneasy.
Does the contents of the splash-screen file effect the system in ANY way?
A) yes
B) NO!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Filesystem problems: bdflush, update, kflush, kupdate questions
Date: 29 Nov 2000 00:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:23:55 -0800, David wrote:
>Recently, my linux box froze up and I was forced to power down without
>doing a proper shutdown. I was rather surprised when, after
>booting up, I found that all changes to my file system from the last few
>*days* had not been written. I started investigating and
>found out that:
>
>I have a kflush process but no kupdate process running. I have no
>update process running. The call to update in my inittab file was
>commented out, presumably because my distribution (Mandrake 6.1 or 6.0,
>can't recall) expected there to be a kupdate process
>running. My kernel is version 2.2.9. For the moment, I have
>uncommented that line of my inittab file so that I at least have some
>filesystem sync'ing going on. But I understand that it is better to
>have kupdate running than update.
>
>Is there something the startup scripts should be doing to get kupdate
>running? If not, and the kernel should be starting it
>automatically, how could this be happening and how could I fix it?
Kernels from 2.2.0 to 2.2.10 should have /sbin/init.d/boot (that's
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit on RedHat and derived) call /sbin/update at some
point. Kernels after 2.2.10 start the kupdate/kpiod/kswapd/kflushd
combo automagically IIRC. You may want to upgrade; 2.2.9 is over a year
old anyway.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Partitioning questions
Date: 29 Nov 2000 00:38:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:39:25 -0600, Alex Stoll wrote:
>I'm using almost all of my 8.4GB drive right now. On my new drive, I'd like
>to have only a couple partitions - so, should I make a 20MB one called
>"/boot" and a about 4GB one called "/", and leave the rest for my FAT32
>Windows files?
>Also, how do I name partitions?
You can do this if you want. You should have a swap partition somewhere
in there as well. You can forgo /boot if your 4G / is within the first
1024 cylinders of the drive or you use the latest LILO.
Partitions don't really have "names". They are identified by device
names (/dev/hda5 for instance) and mounted on mountpoints (/home,
/usr/local, etc.) The location of the / partition is hard-coded into
the kernel image and mounted automatically at boot time, while all
others are usually mounted at various points according to what's in
/etc/fstab. The setup program for most distros will let you create an
fstab file when you create Linux partitions.
You can dynamically rearrange the filesystems' mountpoints when the
system's running, and if you have different distros on the same machine,
you can have something like this:
boot with "redhat" at LILO:
/ /dev/hda6
/usr /dev/hda7
swap /dev/hdb9
/suse /dev/hdb1
/suse/usr /dev/hdb8
/home /dev/hdb7
/usr/local /dev/hdb6
boot with "suse" at LILO:
/ /dev/hdb1
/usr /dev/hdb8
swap /dev/hdb9
/red /dev/hda6
/red/usr /dev/hda7
/home /dev/hdb7
/usr/local /dev/hdb6
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: End Task Command
Date: 29 Nov 2000 00:39:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:16:19 -0500, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> mpulliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> > Linux is superior to Windows 98 in that you can kill and
>> > restart errant programs one by one and it won't crash the
>> > rest of your system or force you to restart the whole thing.
>>
>> Unless you kill init....
>> :)
>>
>I never tried it and do not wish to, in case I succeed. Can you do a
>kill -9 to it? Or does the kernel trap that and prevent you from doing
>that?
Unix is built on the assumption that you Know What You're Doing. Hence
you can "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/kmem", "cat /dev/null >
/etc/hosts.deny && echo "ALL:ALL" > /etc/hosts.allow", or even "kill -9
1" if you're logged in as root. This is roughly equivalent to sticking
your entire leg into a loaded bazooka's muzzle and then pulling the
trigger, but hey....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "Jeremy Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root filesystem resore from tape
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:44:43 GMT
Does anyone know how to restore a root filesystem from a scsi tape CPIO
backup?
I've done the usual mknod /dev/sda... and mount the disks etc, but I can't
persuade
rescue to see /dev/st0.I've created /dev/st0 by hand using
mknod /dev/st0 c 9 0
but it complains that there's no such device. I tried
insmod st but lsmod doesn't show it.
insmod anything just returns to the bash prompt with no error!
What's happening??
I've repeated similar procedures under various versions of
SCO/Openserver/Xenix over the years and have never had a problem.
Any pointers would be most welcome.
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Subject: Mount mysteries
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Gog)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 01:03:56 GMT
Learning Linux is indeed fun, but there are a few things that have been
difficult to track down. Gradually, thanks to the folks who provide the
HOWTO's, I've been able to find out most things, but there's a mystery
about mount points that no one seems to explain.
I understand the concept of assigning mount points to a partition and
that the mounted partition "overlays the existing directory" (to quote
one of the documents I read). In other words, I create a mount point
/home on a partition. I realize that this /home essentially replaces
the /home that is on the root partition. If I unmount /home, I find an
empty directory called /home now exists. If I put a file in this
directory, it will not be visible if I remount /home. No problem, I
understand that. What bugs me is: Where is the file? Does it take up
space in the root partition? Since it has an inode, could it be
accessed even while /home is mounted? I've been dealing with DOS, Win,
and NetWare file systems for a long time, but this is a departure. I'm
sure that part of my problem is trying to relate FAT to *nix file
systems.
If there's some documentation that explains this in gory detail, I'd
love a reference.
--
John Gog (Delete REMOVE to e-mail)
Advanced Systems Design
Opinions expressed are my fault; advice is worth what it cost.
Using: OUI PRO 1.9.2 from <http://www.ouisoft.com>
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