Linux-Misc Digest #489, Volume #26 Thu, 7 Dec 00 16:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: linux compiler problem?? ("Tauno Voipio")
Re: Can't use RealPlayer (Jynx)
Re: help w/ setting an environment var (John Hunter)
Re: Can and Can't Boot from RH 6.2 CD-ROM (Lee Allen)
Re: optimizing kernelbuild (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: konqueror question (Edward M. Collins)
Support for CD Writers on the parallel port? ("Bogdan Calmac")
Re: changing path in a script (Jonathan)
Re: Scaling images (Bryan Hoyt)
Re: Support for CD Writers on the parallel port? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Backup solution at Linux (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: help w/ setting an environment var (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Gnome and KDE (dom)
Re: Good Linux distro for older Pentium box, your take? (dom)
Re: Applixware 5 crashes Red Hat 7 ("D. Stimits")
Re: Applixware 5 crashes Red Hat 7 ("D. Stimits")
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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux compiler problem??
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:11:35 GMT
"Jeff Lacki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:90mkom$dub$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The first error I had was:
>
> gcc -L../../lib -L../../common/lib -o ../../bin/ondemand bod.o
bod_init.o bod_main.o bod_signal.o bod_util.o bod_io.o bod_open.o
bod_close.o
bod_machine.o -lgl_video -lgl_audio -lgl_setup -lil_network -lil_msg -lil_sh
mem -lgl_util -lgl_pid -lcodecs -lnsl -lm -lbe_client -lgl_od
> bod_util.o: file not recognized: File truncated <-------??????
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
The object files you´re using are sick, here bod_util.o. If they are from
your sources, get rid of all .O files and compile them over.
Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jynx)
Subject: Re: Can't use RealPlayer
Reply-To: If You Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Dec 2000 18:21:31 GMT
On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 01:29:20 +0800, Carfield Yim scribbled:
>I am using gnome. After I download Real Player and install, it tell me
>that the version is expired and need to update, but it is a fresh
>download from real.com. How can I do?
W/O more information.... What is the system date on your machine?
Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2
Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __
7,703' -- 2,345m | frontier.net | DM68mn SK
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Subject: Re: help w/ setting an environment var
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Dec 2000 13:19:18 -0600
>>>>> "Floyd" == Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Floyd> What happens if you do "echo $0" on the command line?
c715466-a:~> echo $0
tcsh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Subject: Re: Can and Can't Boot from RH 6.2 CD-ROM
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:35:29 GMT
Go to bottom
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:05:18 -0800, Wayne Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I tried booting from the RH boot disk, and it started asking me questions: what
>language is your keyboard,
>what is your language, and finally "What Type of CD-ROM do you have? SCSI or IDE" I
>answered SCSI and
>selected the menu for AHA-152X. A message was sprayed across the screen that said,
>
>p/aha152x.o init
>module : Device or
>
>That's it. It ended with 'or' and began as shown. In any case, I could not proceed.
>
>
>
>Lee Allen wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:14:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (DualIP) wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:53:58 -0800, Wayne Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I've successfully been able to boot from my RH 6.2 CD-ROM and get into rescue
>mode on one computer
>> >>that contains DOS, NT 4.0 and Linux. On the other computer, which contains NT 4.0
>only, no such
>> >>luck. On the second computer, I've tried boot up parameters for CD-ROM as first
>choice, and second
>> >>choice disabled for boot, but it just goes right for the hard disk every time.
>Any ideas what I'm up
>> >>against? Very odd. I'm pretty sure if I use first choice as a floppy, it will try
>to boot from a
>> >>floppy. Very odd. Yes, the CD-ROM is in when I try the boot.
>> >
>> >Check BIOS setup to set 1st bootable device.
>> >Only newer (couple of years) BIOSes support boot from CDROM
>>
>> Like *he* said.
>>
>> If you can't get it to boot from the CD, use the RedHat boot floppy --
>> it does the same thing. I always do it with the CD in the drive, but
>> now that I think of it, I don't think it even references the CD.
Oops, I was right the first time, wrong just now:
The above procedure works if the RedHat CD is in the drive.
That is, put the RedHat CD in the CD-ROM drive, put the RedHat boot
floppy in the floppy drive, boot, and enter "linux rescue" at the
boot: prompt.
I guess this would only work on systems where the CD support is built
into the rescue kernel -- most IDE based CD-ROMs, I suspect.
On systems that can boot from CD you can omit the floppy and it boots
faster.
-Lee Allen
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: optimizing kernelbuild
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:38:47 +0100
[fassssssst with compilerflags]
José Luis Domingo López wrote:
> You should also try improving your compiler. There are two proejcts out
> thers (PentiumGCC and AthlonGCC) that have patches against egcs (or gcc,
> don't remember) to optimize the resulting code for newer processors.
>
> It's said that there are important improvements in speed. Add using
> optimization to this and you'll get the most out of your CPU.
I downloaded and installed it, but how do I benchmark it?
Dirk
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From: Edward M. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: konqueror question
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:43:15 GMT
Hello,
Just out of curiosity, which mirror did you use to download the KDE 2 sources?
I tried a few weeks to download them and ran into a number of problems with
very poor, connexions, slow and broken downloads. Dial up is part of the
problem but I've heard other folk compalining about this in some other mailing
lists and NGs too. I finally gave up and just installed the Slack binaries on
my Slack partition. I haven't bothered with my RH 6.2 installation yet. The
problem with the Slack binaries is that they contain a number of bugs which
have been fixed on later builds
and they do not have SSL enabled.
Ed
Stephen Cornell wrote:
> > Lori Holder-Webb wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running a modified RH 6.1 setup and would like to try out
> > > Konqueror.
>
> It's possible to install RPM's for KDE 2 as well as KDE 1, using
> rpm -i , but this simply won't work unless they have been prepared for
> installation in a different directory from KDE 1 or are marked
> `relocatable'; in any case, they may well try to install some scripts
> (/etc/profile.d/kde.*sh being particular culprits) that will break
> your KDE 1.* installation.
>
> I'd recommend installing from source, because performance will be
> better and it's a safe way of making sure that your installation
> of Kde 1.* is left intact. You need to install, in this order,
> (i) qt >= 2.2.1 (ii) kdesupport (iii) kdelibs (iv) kdebase. All apart
> from (ii) are pretty hefty; expect the compilation to take a few
> hours, even if your machine is powerful. Follow the instructions on
> KDE's home page, and you shouldn't have any problems; use the --prefix
> option to put KDE 2 in the right place (/opt/kde2 is sensible); you
> may have to use the --with-qt-dir options to make sure the
> installation finds the correct version of QT (I put mine in /opt/qt-2.2.1).
>
> Edward M. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > you may also have to upgrade your glibc
> > on RH6.1, I'm not sure. It's not a simple programme upgrade.
>
> Well, you should have upgraded glibc at some point anyway (there was a
> security advisory a few months ago). In any case, glibc 2.1.* is fine
> for KDE 2.
>
> By the way, comp.windows.x.kde is the best group to get help on KDE.
>
>
> HTH,
> Stephen.
--
I'm semi-ambidextrous -- equally clumsy with either hand.
Edward M. Collins Dearborn, Michigan USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User ID 132691 The Linux Counter http://counter.li.org
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From: "Bogdan Calmac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Support for CD Writers on the parallel port?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:07:15 -0800
Does Linux(RedHat) have support for external CD Writers which provide
connection to the parallel port? I suppose there should be some SCSI
emulation on the parallel port.
Thanks,
Bogdan CALMAC.
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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: changing path in a script
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:18:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would like to change my path in a script but I cant.
> I do
>
> PATH=[...]
> export PATH
>
> but nothing changes. Why?
> My /bin/sh is bash.
>
> Dirk
>
From: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part2
2.8) How do I {set an environment variable, change directory} inside
a program or shell script and have that change affect my
current shell?
In general, you can't, at least not without making special
arrangements. When a child process is created, it inherits a
copy of its parent's variables (and current directory). The
child can change these values all it wants but the changes won't
affect the parent shell, since the child is changing a copy of
the original data.
Some special arrangements are possible. Your child process could
write out the changed variables, if the parent was prepared to
read the output and interpret it as commands to set its own
variables.
Also, shells can arrange to run other shell scripts in the
context of the current shell, rather than in a child process, so
that changes will affect the original shell.
For instance, if you have a C shell script named "myscript":
cd /very/long/path
setenv PATH /something:/something-else
or the equivalent Bourne or Korn shell script
cd /very/long/path
PATH=/something:/something-else export PATH
and try to run "myscript" from your shell, your shell will fork
and run the shell script in a subprocess. The subprocess is also
running the shell; when it sees the "cd" command it changes *its*
current directory, and when it sees the "setenv" command it
changes *its* environment, but neither has any effect on the
current directory of the shell at which you're typing (your login
shell, let's say).
In order to get your login shell to execute the script (without
forking) you have to use the "." command (for the Bourne or Korn
shells) or the "source" command (for the C shell). I.e. you type
. myscript
to the Bourne or Korn shells, or
source myscript
to the C shell.
If all you are trying to do is change directory or set an
environment variable, it will probably be simpler to use a C
shell alias or Bourne/Korn shell function. See the "how do I get
the current directory into my prompt" section of this article for
some examples.
A much more detailed answer prepared by
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Michanek) can be found at
ftp.wg.omron.co.jp in /pub/unix-faq/docs/script-vs-env.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan Hoyt)
Subject: Re: Scaling images
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:39:44 GMT
Who ever said Aulne couldn't write what follows?:
>
>Thanks guys. This is exactly what I needed... and it was all along on my PC
>without me knowing it! Is there somewhere a detailed list (i.e. with a good
>description of what a package can do) of every package included in say, Red
>Hat or SuSE or Mandrake distributions?
>
>
A printed manual comes with RedHat, and has such a list at the back. Other
than that, you can enter the RPMS directory on a distribution CD, and type:
rpm -qpi * | lpr
For an extensive listing of the CD's contents. However, probably you don't
have all of the three distributions. I would look on their respective
websites.
--
Bryan Hoyt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.crosswinds.net/~artmusic
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Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Support for CD Writers on the parallel port?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:42:22 GMT
Bogdan Calmac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does Linux(RedHat) have support for external CD Writers which provide
> connection to the parallel port? I suppose there should be some SCSI
> emulation on the parallel port.
Check out:
http://gear.torque.net/parport/cdr.html
Adam
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup solution at Linux
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 15:51:38 -0500
Carfield Yim wrote:
>
> I used to use Windows, now I change to linux.
> When using Windows, I like to use a tool call disk copy to backup my
> windows partition. Although it is quite expensive to do so but it worth,
> and save me a lot of time from backup and restore when system have
> problem. Is there are similar tool at linux? Or any other suggestion?
I think the best way, if you do not wish to purchase commercial
software such as BRU, is to use a shell script with find and cpio in
it. Have cron schedule it to run when you are asleep so it does not
get in your way and so you do not annoy it.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 3:45pm up 3 days, 34 min, 3 users, load average: 4.25, 3.90,
3.83
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help w/ setting an environment var
Date: 07 Dec 2000 11:56:19 -0900
John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "Floyd" == Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Floyd> What happens if you do "echo $0" on the command line?
>
>c715466-a:~> echo $0
>tcsh
OK. I was thinking possibly your invocation of X was starting
you up with a bash shell instead of tcsh, but that shows it isn't.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:57:52 -0500
Gnome is pretty darn buggy on my mandrake 7.1 distro, to the point where I
even try to avoid gnome apps in other window managers. Is this just me or is
it the general performance of gnome out there?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Gene Wilburn
wrote: >On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:46:04 -0600, GC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>i'm very new to linux, so i don't nkow mucha bout the GUI enviroments or
>>anything. well, i heard things about KDE, Gnome and X11. i was wondering
>>could software that ran in one of these environments run on the other? >>
>>also, are there any opinions on what is better and more stable? KDE, Gnome
>>or X11? or any other environments? thanks >>
>
>Install both and have fun! Switch back and forth and see which one grabs
>you more. I like them both, to a degree. But I always seem to come back
>to running a *very* simple fvwm environment instead. Guess I'm a minimalist
>at heart ...
>
>Gene
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From: dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good Linux distro for older Pentium box, your take?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:00:12 -0500
I was happily using mandrake 7.1 when i decided to "upgrade" to
7.2........much slower and buggier, and KDE2 seems a step backward to me. Now
i am back with 7.1 and it runs fine on my p111600 w/126 megs
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000,
Gerald Pollack wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"//.././" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Pentium 166 with 64 meg of RAM and a separate 6 gig harddisk
>> for linux. I used to run Red Hat 6.0; the performance was good, although
>> it pages quite a bit when GIMP and Netscape are used (especially at the
>> same time). Recently I upgraded to Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I noticed a
>> performance hit, to the point of being annoying. (I also have a problem
>> with no sound, but that's another issue).
>>
>> I'm thinking of switching to some (possibly older) distribution. I have
>> couple choices: RedHat 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, or Corel Linux 2nd ed. (I don't
>> have the RH6.0 disks anymore).
>>
>> What would you recommend? My priorities are: stability, performance
>> (with stability being slightly more important).
>>
>> TIA
>
>One of my systems has similar specs, and I run Mandrake 7.0. Performance
>is poor if I run gnome (haven't tried kde), but with 'bare' icewm, it's
>fine. My problems have been with the newer versions of some software,
>rather than with the OS. E.g., netscape 6.0, StarOffice 5.2 are both
>unbelievably slower than their predecessors (netscape 4.7, SO 5.1), both
>of which are ok on my system (though not running simultaneously).
>
>--
>G. Pollack
>Dept. of Biology, McGill Univ.
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:04:10 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Applixware 5 crashes Red Hat 7
Christopher Wong wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:57:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >C.Wong> Christopher Wong wrote:
..snip...
> Thanks for offering your theories. What I have here is an ATI XPert 98
> video card, which has been around for a while. I am running this on a
> motherboard with a KT133 chipset and a Duron 700 processor. The tricky
> part about blaming the X server is that I have the same problem with 2
> different servers (4.0.1 and 3.3.6). To complicate matters further,
> another Red Hat 7 system does not exhibit this problem. While I have had
> X-related hangs before, this is the first time I have seen a hard reboot
> caused by an application. I am beginning to wonder if this is hardware
> related.
Cygwin's debugger in their Code Fusion causes this on two machines for
me. Stopping a debug reboots both of them. So I paid for their product
but can't use it to debug on either of two machines without instant
reboot. Neither machine shares anything in terms of hardware. The X
Server and several video card changes were made. Those two ran RH 6.1,
now 6.2. So although it could be hardware, I wouldn't conclude such a
thing until you find out what actually fixes it.
>
> Chris
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:09:18 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Applixware 5 crashes Red Hat 7
Christopher Wong wrote:
>
> This is most unnerving. I recently installed Applixware Office 5.0,
> upgrading from version 4.4.1. I tried the word processor. When I
> selected some text and tried changing the font, Red Hat 7 would
> crash. Hard. The screen goes blank and the machine would suddenly and
> silently (or with a beep) reboot. The file system was not cleanly
> unmounted, so an fsck was forced. This has happened several times, both
> with XFree86 4.0.1 and 3.3.6 servers.
>
> My machine used to run Mandrake 7 before I installed Red Hat 7 over it,
> in case that is relevant. At this point, I don't even know where to
> begin diagnosing this problem. The syslog is useless, since the crash is
> sudden and silent. The only thing I did was to select text in the word
> processor and change the font. I believe I have installed most of Red
> Hat's fixes, including the latest glibc 2.2.
>
> Suggestions, anyone?
>
> Chris
One thing that won't point to the exact failure, but might point at a
particular file, is to try running it under gdb. That might not be too
easy, depending on whether it has forked off first when it fails or not.
But if you are able to do so, you can find out some rough idea of where
it died (having symbols stripped drastically reduces what you can find).
Under a debugger, it is also possible it will change its behavior and
not bring the whole machine down. With any luck, it will name a file or
function at the time of death.
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