Linux-Misc Digest #525, Volume #26 Mon, 11 Dec 00 21:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: cant get apache to listen in RH7 (webqueen, queen of the web)
Re: Kernel (Glitch)
Re: how to know when last accessed..... (Glitch)
Re: Replicating a Linux box (Glitch)
Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops? (Glitch)
Re: Linux freeze (Glitch)
Best CD-ROM Backup & Recovery System (Shawn Smith)
Re: Kernel ("TsTech")
gnome enlightenment ? (Jeff Lacki)
Patch too big for floppy (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Re: Hidden partiion?>? (Tony)
Re: lost file on erased partition (alex k)
Re: Linux freeze ("korner")
Re: Linux freeze ("korner")
Adding a user via script and via KDE Kmuser... (Jerry Kreps)
Re: Kernel sees only part of memory ("lobotomy")
Re: Kernel (Steve Martin)
Re: Can I run minicom on COMM1 and COMM2 simulataneously (Bob Hauck)
Re: New To Linux - Distributions (1on1)
Re: Kernel (Kenny Pearce)
Re: (Newbie) Mandrake 7.2 less buggy than Red Hat 7.0? (Sinner from the Prairy)
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From: webqueen, queen of the web <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant get apache to listen in RH7
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:20:35 GMT
Oddly enough, if I point the localhost broswer to
http://localhost:8080
the apache default page pops up, but
http://localhost
says page not found.. I doublechecked- httpd.conf is listening on port
8080.
Is there something else that could cause httpd to listen on a different
port?
-WQ
In article <911j9s$f4i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
webqueen, queen of the web <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed the latest apache versionon my RH7 machine and started
it.
> Dutifully several httpd processes were there.
>
> However, on the localhost I try to access
>
> http://localhost/
>
> and its not listening. telnet locahost 80 says connection refused.
> (telnet localhost 23 pops up a prompt...)
>
> netstat -l shows no http processes.
>
> Do I need to add a file in /etc/xinetd.d to get this to work? Can
> someone post an example file?
>
> Thanks & Hug,
> WQ
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:35:14 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel
i believe we are up to 2.4 now
David wrote:
>
> Glitch wrote:
> >
> > and kernel 2.2.18 is how old now?
> >
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > For those interested kernel-2.2.18 is available from kernel.org
> > >
>
> Just released today.
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:36:38 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to know when last accessed.....
i think, but not sure, wtmp provides this info but don't quote me on
that.
Bulent Sarinc wrote:
>
> with pop3
> telnet
> ftp
>
> at all how to know when a user has accessed last time the server with
> any protocol.
>
> finger -m <username> doesn't tell much
>
> thanx in advance
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:38:11 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Replicating a Linux box
df -stands for diskfree, lists partitions/drives and mount point
Shawn Smith wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> Great advice. I am going to go see if the box has room for another
> drive. What if it doesn't? ftping could work then. I would just copy the
> partition layout and then just ftp it all. Do you know the command for
> me to find out what partitions are mounted on what drives?
>
> Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Shawn Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > At work, I have a live server. I am getting a new computer where I
> am
> > > to replace the old server with this new one. I have been using
> Linux
> > > at home for fun since '94 so I am comfortable w/ it. I, however,
> have
> > > never had to completely copy one machine to another. It seems
> simple,
> > > but just in case.
> >
> > Put the HD of the new computer in your old one, fdisk it,
> > mount /dev/rootpartitiononnewdrive /mnt
> > cd /
> > cp -pRd * /mnt
> > # you may want to add -x to copy only files on the root partition in
> > # case you have more than one partition mounted and want to preserve
> > # this structure
> > umount /mnt
> >
> > Repeat for every partition.
> > Do magic with lilo or something to get it installed in the MBR of the
> > new HD, so that it will work even when the HD becomes the first one.
> > Put new HD back in new computer AFTER ensuring that your current
> config
> > will work with the new hardware at least long enough to configure it
> > correctly.
> > Boot and hope.
> >
> > HAND
> > seb
> >
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> panic
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> spread
> >
>
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>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:41:25 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops?
the sony vaios, at least the one i have the Z505HS, has some proprietary
stuff on it like the memory stick and the firewire port. The modem is a
winmodem so forget about it working in Linux. The ethernet however works
like a charm with the eepro100.o module. I use the SVGA X server and i
think my res. is 1024x768 with 16bit color if i remember correctly.
Cant use the floppy yet b/c dont' have usb support for floppy drives (i
doubt any normal desktop would have this type of floppy so this support
will either never come or it will be a WHILE).
HTH
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi
>
> i'm currently thinkning of getting a laptop which i intend to install
> linux on (make is either going to be a sony viao or a panasonic laptop
> since i've heard some good reviews, albiet not 'linux' based reviews)
> and am wondering if anyone out there has any strong
> recommendations/dont-touch-with-12foot-pole.
>
> thanks
> P
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:43:57 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
NS has a memory leak, 4.7 i believe is the one i have in suse 6.3
After it takes up RAM and swap it will cause the system to freeze as
there is no more memory to use. Once I see NS's memory usage go up i
watch it very very carefully and if i'm not doing anthing i'll just kill
it right there and restart it however if i'm busy using it i'll watch
the memory usage and kill it as soon as posible so the system doesnt
freeze
korner wrote:
>
> As shocking as the title may be, it just happened to me. I was surfing the
> internet using netscape 4.7?, and suddenly everything freezed and I had to
> hard-reboot the computer to regain control. The mouse pointer was moving,
> but except that, the system didn't respond to anything.
>
> Maybe it has something to do with netscape, not Linux? I am running Redhat
> 7. Has anybody experienced simliar things? Thanks.
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From: Shawn Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Best CD-ROM Backup & Recovery System
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:33:07 GMT
Hello all,
I am curious which back up & recovery system that writes to cd-roms
people have found to be the best and why.
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From: "TsTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:01:17 GMT
Just the testing stages of 2.4.0
We're not there yet.
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i believe we are up to 2.4 now
>
> David wrote:
> >
> > Glitch wrote:
> > >
> > > and kernel 2.2.18 is how old now?
> > >
> > > David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For those interested kernel-2.2.18 is available from kernel.org
> > > >
> >
> > Just released today.
> >
> > --
> > Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> > Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> > ID # 123538
> > Completed more work units than 98.887% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: Jeff Lacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome enlightenment ?
Date: 12 Dec 2000 01:06:45 GMT
Is there a program to run in the shell that restores (or re-creates)
the necessary config files/directorys etc when there is a problem with
your window session?
I ask for a couple reasons:
1. After changing my NIS user ID and rebooting, then doing 'startx'
I no longer get the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. YES, all
of my files are now owned by me and my new user ID etc
2. After the same NIS change, my co-worker cant even get the multiple
windows to come up, she has to manually select an Xterm to get anything
at all.
Ive seen these things in the past and the only way Ive ever been able to
fix it is to re-install RH 6.2, obviously NOT a good choice.
Any tips/ideas help is appreciated
TIA
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Subject: Patch too big for floppy
Date: 12 Dec 2000 01:24:28 GMT
Linux 2.2.18 is around 2.5 megs. What's up with
that? Every other kernel patch has fit on a floppy.
I just installed a new distro and I want to bring
the kernel current but I have no net connection for this
box.
What is a person to do without being able to patch the
kernel with floppies? Don't patches typically try to stay
under 1.4megs?
--Chris
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Subject: Re: Hidden partiion?>?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:12:47 GMT
You have to have a program that understands hidden partitions, such PQ
Magic.
Yes, that would be the problem. With the partition hidden, nothing can see
it but the partitioning program.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kyle Parfrey) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Mandrake 7.1 has made my win98 partition "hidden" (as seen from cfdisk)
>and now win won't boot. How do I unhide a partition, and would this be
>the problem anyhow????
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kyle
>
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From: alex k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost file on erased partition
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:09:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen) wrote:
>
> findpart pm heads 255 fp-a.txt
>
aha.
but it gave like 32 entries...
i guess its a few entries from even longer ago, right?
the output is here http://www.student.lu.se/~fpr99ako/fp_1.txt
if i want to make that extended partition work again, i guess
i have to find the precise entries in the output it corresponds
to, right?
any tips?
thanks / alex k
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From: "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:31:14 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:yA9Z5.95071$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If the mouse pointer was moving, then the computer did not freeze.
> A freeze is when all the inputs are blocked, and you can do squat with it.
>
> Since you were using X, were you able to (ctrl)-alt-Fx to one of the other
6
> consoles ?
>
> What about the ctrl-alt-backspace ( Kills the X server ? )
>
I didn't try either of those. As a matter of fact, I didn't even know that
there are such hot-keys. (I'm a 3-day old Linux user.) But everything on the
screen was greyed out. It didn't seem to respond to keyboard at all.
> >
> One last thing : did you apply the updates and patches from redhat for 7.0
?
>
> hth.
>
No, I didn't. I installed original Redhat 7 I downloaded from their site.
Are those updates necessary for the stability? Thanks.
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From: "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freeze
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:33:38 GMT
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> NS has a memory leak, 4.7 i believe is the one i have in suse 6.3
> After it takes up RAM and swap it will cause the system to freeze as
> there is no more memory to use. Once I see NS's memory usage go up i
> watch it very very carefully and if i'm not doing anthing i'll just kill
> it right there and restart it however if i'm busy using it i'll watch
> the memory usage and kill it as soon as posible so the system doesnt
> freeze
>
How do you monitor Netscape memory usage? Is there any utility program for
that? And is it possible to allocate limited memory to Nescape so that it
cannot disturb the entire system? Thanks.
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding a user via script and via KDE Kmuser...
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:34:10 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kmuser allows me to add users using 5 digit numbers.
When I write a bash script to do the same thing, useradd won't allow it.
How do I get around that?
TIA,
Jerry
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel sees only part of memory
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:36:34 GMT
The tip given in the other reply (the mem=amount kernel argument) will
work fine. However, you might also look to see if the problem is fixed
in the latest BIOS for your machine. This is a BIOS-related problem and
it was fixed in the BIOS for my motherboard (Abit BX6-2.0). I wouldn't
be surprised if HP has also fixed this problem.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Linde"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am running RH Linux 7.0 on an HP Kayak, which has
> 2x733 Mhz processors and 256 Mb of memory. I also run Windows 2000
> from a separate disk. While booting Linux, the kernel reports and uses
> only 64 Mb of memory. Under Windows the entire memory is seen and used.
>
> Any hints?
>
> Peter Linde Lund Observatory Sweden
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:41:47 GMT
Glitch wrote:
> i believe we are up to 2.4 now
Not officially. According to www.kernel.org, the
latest is 2.4.0-test-11, which is a beta.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Can I run minicom on COMM1 and COMM2 simulataneously
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:43:39 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:21:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can I run minicom on COMM1 and COMM2 simulataneously?
Yes. You'll need two config files, minirc.ttyS0 and minirc.ttyS1. Each
should specify the appropriate /dev file.
>The command line option seems to let me specify a pseudo tty, but not
>/dev/ttyS1.
Use the command line to specify a config file:
mincom ttyS0
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From: 1on1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:59:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake-Linux includes several Linux books with their 7.2 CD's
REAL books...not just something they wrote.
SAMS, Learn Linux in 24 hrs.
SAMS, Learn Mandrake in 24 hrs.
...and another.
It's a good deal and a good learner distro.
Joseph
Mike wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am thinking about downloading and installing Linux for the first time. I
> am very familiar with Windows/DOS environments but from what I have
> heard/seen of Linux so far I have a feeling I am going to be pretty lost,
> but I think I would like to try it any way.
>
> I have found huge lists of Linux Distributions, and I am not sure which one
> to get. Bascially I use my computer for Windows based games (such as Red
> Alert 1/2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, C&C Tiberian Sun, and a few other
> DirectX and OpenGL based games) and the only application I use heavily is
> Microsoft Office 2000. Can I run these things in a particular Linux
> distribtion, if so which one?
>
> I have an Athlon 700, 256 RAM, Geforce 2 GTS system as well.
>
> Can any one recommend a distribution for me? Prefereably one that is
> novice-medium level of "difficulty" too...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike
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From: Kenny Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:52:48 -0800
David wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
> >
> > and kernel 2.2.18 is how old now?
> >
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > For those interested kernel-2.2.18 is available from kernel.org
> > >
>
> Just released today.
>
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more work units than 98.887% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
no... 2.4.x is available dude...
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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Newbie) Mandrake 7.2 less buggy than Red Hat 7.0?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:02:01 +0000
Garry Heaton wrote:
> I'm about to select my first Linux/UNIX OS and have narrowed-down the choice
> to Mandrake 7.2 or Red Hat 7.0. I've heard Red Hat 7.0 is buggy. Is Mandrake
> therefore more stable? Are there any significant differences between the 2?
> I tend towards the ease of use end of the spectrum as I want to concentrate
> on Perl development not OS expertise.
I say go Mandrake 7.2 all the way.
Choose "development install" for your needs.
> Also, can I run Apache for desktop development with both of these options? I
> read somewhere that Mandrame 7.2 is designed for the desktop, not the
> server, but I understand by this that I will still be able to use it as a
> desktop development environment with Apache but not as a server machine.
> Please correct if this isn't the case.
Both have Apache. If the default "development" install doesn't provide
you with a working apache, then, install it and configure it graphicaly.
Go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en and http://www.mandrakeuser.org
for more info.
> Thanks
> Garry Heaton
Salut,
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