Linux-Misc Digest #735, Volume #26                Sat, 6 Jan 01 18:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Where's my memory?! (Steve Connet)
  Re: Strange tar behavior (Robert Heller)
  Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC??? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Partition overlapped (Anita Lewis)
  Safe Upgrade to glibc 2.2? (Bob Schreibmaier)
  Re: Software Inventory (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Software Inventory (Linux User)
  Re: Software Inventory (ljj)
  Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC??? (Neil W Rickert)
  Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC??? (Neil W Rickert)
  Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC??? (Neil W Rickert)
  Re: Strange tar behavior (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Software Inventory (ljj)
  kernel 2.4.0 (root)
  Re: what news reader do you use? ("R. Tyson")
  How do I get my NIC:s started on RH6.2 boot??? (Bo Berglund)
  Re: Red Hat dead/dying? ("kiwiunixman")
  Re: Linux Help Please!!!
  joining two lines (Anthony Ewell)

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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Where's my memory?!
From: Steve Connet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:01:45 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6) writes:

> Look at the memory lines of top closely:
> 
> Mem:   62768K av,  61132K used,   1636K free,  34948K shrd,   1308K buff
> Swap: 333572K av,  72636K used, 260936K free                 29316K cached
> 
> Taking the above, I apparently only have 1646K free...but in reality I have
> 1636 + 1308 + 29316 = 32260K free.

Ah.. okay, that makes sense. Thank you... now that I look at mine I
have lots of memory free. 

Mem:   127820K av,  124416K used,    3404K free, 41404K shrd,  2752K buff
Swap:   72252K av,   13176K used,   59076K free         58572K cached

3404 + 2752 + 58572 = 64728K free. Good. That's with X running
KDE. Much beter. Thank you for explaining that to me.

-- 
Steve Connet (steve.connet@home`NO-SPAM`.com)

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange tar behavior
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:11:29 true

  Tomoo Nomura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sun, 31 Dec 2000 03:37:58 +0900, wrote :

TN> Hello,
TN> 
TN> I try to backup this year's data, but tar could not work correctly.
TN> When viewing by ls -l,
TN> 
TN> -rwxr-xr-x  1 pcusers users   4608 Jul 13 1999  MERITT01.A1W
TN> 
TN> 
TN> tar -cvf  /tmp/aaa.tar  --newer 10/06/00 M*
TN> 
TN> This makes a backup.
TN> 
TN> tar -cvf  /tmp/aaa.tar  --newer 10/07/00 M*
TN> 
TN> This does not make a backup
TN> 
TN> 07/12/99  07/13/99 /07/14/99 also make a backup.
TN> 
TN> Is this a y2k problem ?

Yes, but not with the computer.  YOUR brain is not Y2K compliant.  Try:

        tar -cvf  /tmp/aaa.tar  --newer 10/06/2000 M*

(as an experiment note what these commands generate:

cal 1 00
cal 1 2000
cal 1 99
cal 1 1999

Hint: the cal command is *aggressively* Y2K compliant.)



TN> 
TN> Environments are potato tar_1.13.17-2.
TN> 
TN> Tomoo
TN> -- 
TN> ************************************************************
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TN>                    http://www.tmo.co.jp/
TN>   Tomoo Nomura     [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Nifty:GBH12257
TN>                    Fax: +81-78-797-0241
TN>   ValueFax Support in Japan
TN>   HAFAS European Electronic Time Table in Japan
TN>   Worldwide Airline Time Table Flight Planner in Japan
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC???
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:11:30 true

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund),
  In a message on Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:59:56 GMT, wrote :

BB> On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:58:49 +0100, Michael Heiming
BB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BB> 
BB> >Bo Berglund wrote:
BB> >
BB> >> I can't get sendmail to work over my Internet connection (ADSL on
BB> >> eth1). The default gateway is 192.168.0.129 (the ADSL gateway) and my
BB> >> NIC:s are set up so:
BB> >> eth0    192.168.1.1
BB> >> eth1    192.168.0.1
BB> >> default gateway is 192.168.0.129
BB> >> No mail gets delivered to Internet recipients...
BB> >> But when I look in /var/logs/maillog I see lines like this:
BB> >> Jan  6 11:01:52 linuxpc sendmail[8647]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.1)
BB> >> failed: 1
BB> >>
BB> >> It looks like it is trying to use eth0 even though the correct one
BB> >> (with gateway) is eth1. Why is this so??
BB> >> How to change it?
BB> >>
BB> >> Bo Berglund
BB> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BB> >
BB> >Hello,
BB> >
BB> >looks for me like a DNS problem, sendmail can't resolv it's own
BB> >hostname, set it up in /etc/hosts:
BB> >
BB> >192.168.1.1        hostname.your_domain.com     hostname
BB> >
BB> >If it doesn't help you can set it in /etc/sendmail.cf
BB> >
BB> ># my official domain name
BB> ># ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your
BB> >domain
BB> >Djhostname.your_domain.com
BB> >
BB> >Don't forget to restart sendmail!
BB> >
BB> >Good luck
BB> >
BB> >Michael Heiming
BB> >
BB> 
BB> Thanks,
BB> my hosts file looks like this now (after changing):
BB> 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
BB> 192.168.0.30        eagle2.xxxxx.com        eagle2
BB> 192.168.0.1 linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # First ethernet card
BB> 192.168.1.1 linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # Second ethernet card
BB> 
BB> Please note two IP addresses with the same names. I can't think of any
BB> way else to set it up because there are two NIC:s on the same computer
BB> so they should have the same name, or not? To me at least it is one

No. Each IP # needs a *different* name.  *Computers* don't really have
*unique* names.  Each *interface* gets a name.  

BB> host with several NIC:s and IP addresses.
BB> But I have seen elsewhere that you can't have the same names but
BB> different IP addresses in the hosts file. Please advice what to do.

You need separate names for each IP number.  You can have more than one
name for a given IP number, but not the same name for more than one IP number.

BB> 
BB> The second issue is that I tried to restart sendmail like this:
BB> [root@linuxpc bosse]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart
BB> Shutting down sendmail: [FAILED]
BB> Starting sendmail:
BB> [root@linuxpc bosse]#
BB> 
BB> Is this an indication that sendmail had problems even stopping?

It was probably not running because of the problem with gethostbyaddr. 
It failed because kill failed to kill a process that was already dead. 
Not an error, exactly...

BB> And since there was no [OK] after starting, does this mean that I now
BB> have an unstable system?

No.  Sendmail is just not running -- it probably gave up when it found
two IP numbers with the same name (actually gethostbyaddr() probably
returned an unexpected error status and sendmail crashed early in its init).

BB> 
BB> Grateful for advice!
BB> 
BB> 
BB> Bo Berglund
BB> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BB>                       






                                                                                       
         
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition overlapped
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:16:35 GMT

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:52:19 +0100, Eric en Jolanda wrote:
>> # fdisk -l /dev/hda
>>
>> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2491 cylinders
>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>>
>>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
>> /dev/hda1             1        64    514048+  83  Linux
>> /dev/hda2            65       319   2048287+  83  Linux
>> /dev/hda3   *       320      1057   5927985    c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
>> /dev/hda4          1058      2491  11518605    f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
>> /dev/hda5   *      2085      2491   3269196    b  Win95 FAT32
>> /dev/hda6          1058      2084   8249314+  83  Linux
>>
>> Confusing, right?
>
>Not really. I just don't get it how people keep creating logicals like this.

I disagree with you.  Here is my partition table for one drive.  I have
windows and 4 distros of linux going just fine.  The order is reversed and I
did it with linux fdisk, much like he did with gpart.  You will see that
hda7 and hda8 are out of order.


Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 559 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1       135   1020568+   c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2           136       149    105840   83  Linux
/dev/hda3           150       158     68040   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda4           159       559   3031560    5  Extended
/dev/hda5           159       172    105808+  83  Linux
/dev/hda6           173       186    105808+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7           401       546   1103760   83  Linux
/dev/hda8           187       400   1617777   83  Linux
/dev/hda9           547       559     98248+  83  Linux

Anita

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Schreibmaier)
Subject: Safe Upgrade to glibc 2.2?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:27:25 GMT

I have a Slackware-based system using glibc 2.1.3.  Now that glibc 2.2
is available, how does one safely upgrade?  Installing glibc 2.2 and
removing the old glibc 2.1.3 seems to make it impossible to login!

Thanks in advance.

Bob

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software Inventory
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:32:56 -0500

Lisa Johnson wrote:
> 
> Is there anything out there that will query a Linux, Unix or Irix server
> to determine what software is running on it?

pstree will show that.
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 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 5:30pm up 3 days, 9 min, 2 users, load average: 3.34, 3.39, 3.19

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From: Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software Inventory
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:33:00 -0800

Hello,

You might look at Caldera's Volution. It supports any linux distribution 
that's uses RPMS. It might be a little overkill though it does more then 
just software inventory.

http://www.caldera.com/volution/

Cheers,
        Jim H

Lisa Johnson wrote:

> Is there anything out there that will query a Linux, Unix or Irix server
> to determine what software is running on it?



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From: ljj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software Inventory
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:38:13 GMT

I'll take a look, thanks!

Linux User wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You might look at Caldera's Volution. It supports any linux distribution
> that's uses RPMS. It might be a little overkill though it does more then
> just software inventory.
> 
> http://www.caldera.com/volution/
> 
> Cheers,
>         Jim H
> 
> Lisa Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Is there anything out there that will query a Linux, Unix or Irix server
> > to determine what software is running on it?

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From: Neil W Rickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC???
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:31:33 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund) writes:

>I can't get sendmail to work over my Internet connection (ADSL on
>eth1). The default gateway is 192.168.0.129 (the ADSL gateway) and my
>NIC:s are set up so:
>eth0   192.168.1.1
>eth1   192.168.0.1
>default gateway is 192.168.0.129
>No mail gets delivered to Internet recipients...
>But when I look in /var/logs/maillog I see lines like this:
>Jan  6 11:01:52 linuxpc sendmail[8647]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.1)
>failed: 1 

>It looks like it is trying to use eth0 even though the correct one
>(with gateway) is eth1. Why is this so??
>How to change it?

Sendmail is just looking up its interface.  For sending mail, it will
use whatever the kernel assigns based on routing requirements.


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From: Neil W Rickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC???
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:38:48 -0600

Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund),

>BB> Thanks,
>BB> my hosts file looks like this now (after changing):
>BB> 127.0.0.1  localhost.localdomain   localhost
>BB> 192.168.0.30       eagle2.xxxxx.com        eagle2
>BB> 192.168.0.1        linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # First ethernet card
>BB> 192.168.1.1        linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # Second ethernet card
>BB> 
>BB> Please note two IP addresses with the same names. I can't think of any
>BB> way else to set it up because there are two NIC:s on the same computer
>BB> so they should have the same name, or not? To me at least it is one

>No. Each IP # needs a *different* name.  *Computers* don't really have
>*unique* names.  Each *interface* gets a name.  

Horse manure.  It can be done either way.

>BB> host with several NIC:s and IP addresses.
>BB> But I have seen elsewhere that you can't have the same names but
>BB> different IP addresses in the hosts file. Please advice what to do.

>You need separate names for each IP number.  You can have more than one
>name for a given IP number, but not the same name for more than one IP number.

More horse manure.


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From: Neil W Rickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Why is sendmail using the wrong NIC???
Date: 6 Jan 2001 16:35:58 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund) writes:
>On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:58:49 +0100, Michael Heiming
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Bo Berglund wrote:

>>> I can't get sendmail to work over my Internet connection (ADSL on
>>> eth1). The default gateway is 192.168.0.129 (the ADSL gateway) and my
>>> NIC:s are set up so:
>>> eth0    192.168.1.1
>>> eth1    192.168.0.1
>>> default gateway is 192.168.0.129
>>> No mail gets delivered to Internet recipients...
>>> But when I look in /var/logs/maillog I see lines like this:
>>> Jan  6 11:01:52 linuxpc sendmail[8647]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.1)
>>> failed: 1

>>> It looks like it is trying to use eth0 even though the correct one
>>> (with gateway) is eth1. Why is this so??
>>> How to change it?

>>> Bo Berglund
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>Hello,

>>looks for me like a DNS problem, sendmail can't resolv it's own
>>hostname, set it up in /etc/hosts:

>>192.168.1.1        hostname.your_domain.com     hostname

>>If it doesn't help you can set it in /etc/sendmail.cf

>># my official domain name
>># ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your
>>domain
>>Djhostname.your_domain.com

>>Don't forget to restart sendmail!

>>Good luck

>>Michael Heiming


>Thanks,
>my hosts file looks like this now (after changing):
>127.0.0.1      localhost.localdomain   localhost
>192.168.0.30   eagle2.xxxxx.com        eagle2
>192.168.0.1    linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # First ethernet card
>192.168.1.1    linuxpc.xxxxx.com       linuxpc # Second ethernet card

>Please note two IP addresses with the same names.

That's not a problem (unless your startup code uses names instead
of addresses in ifconfig).

>But I have seen elsewhere that you can't have the same names but
>different IP addresses in the hosts file.

Sure you can, particularly if it is your own name.  If you
have a preference, put the most preferred entry first.

>The second issue is that I tried to restart sendmail like this:
>[root@linuxpc bosse]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart
>Shutting down sendmail: [FAILED]
>Starting sendmail:
>[root@linuxpc bosse]#

>Is this an indication that sendmail had problems even stopping?

If it wasn't running, then the attempt to shutdown would fail.  You
perhaps have other problems that prevent it starting.


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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange tar behavior
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:40:25 -0500

Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> TN> Is this a y2k problem ?
> 
> Yes, but not with the computer.  YOUR brain is not Y2K compliant.  Try:
> 
>         tar -cvf  /tmp/aaa.tar  --newer 10/06/2000 M*
> 
> (as an experiment note what these commands generate:
> 
> cal 1 00
> cal 1 2000
> cal 1 99
> cal 1 1999
> 
> Hint: the cal command is *aggressively* Y2K compliant.)

What was the year they skipped 10 days to upgrade from the Julian
Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar? It was around 1789, but I do not see
it.

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 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
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From: ljj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software Inventory
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:44:57 GMT

The will show it if the app happens to be running at the time.  Not sure
how to catch everythingm running or not.

Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> 
> Lisa Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything out there that will query a Linux, Unix or Irix server
> > to determine what software is running on it?
> 
> pstree will show that.
> --
>  .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
>  /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^ 5:30pm up 3 days, 9 min, 2 users, load average: 3.34, 3.39, 3.19

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: kernel 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:44:22 -0500

I compiled ker 2.4.0 on a RH7.0, and most of it is well, except for two
things:

1.

Jan  6 17:14:19 orion rpc.lockd: lockdsvc: Invalid argument
Jan  6 17:14:19 orion nfslock: rpc.lockd startup failed

Any reasons for that? Did I missconfigure something? Do I need a more
recent version of rpc?

2.

Jan  6 17:14:19 orion kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff
Hartmann
Jan  6 17:14:19 orion kernel: agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for
agp memory: 94M
Jan  6 17:14:19 orion kernel: agpgart: agpgart: Detected an Intel i815,
but could not find the secondary device.
...

Jan  6 17:16:54 orion kernel: [drm:r128_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize
agpgart module.


Here's how I configured the AGPART/DRI:

CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
CONFIG_AGP_I810=y
CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD=y
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=y
CONFIG_AGP_ALI=y
CONFIG_DRM=y
# CONFIG_DRM_TDFX is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_GAMMA is not set
CONFIG_DRM_R128=m
# CONFIG_DRM_I810 is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_MGA is not set

The info on dri.sourceforge.net (DRI user guide and DRI compilation
guide) is somewhat confusing. The user guide says that the kernel module
r128.o is going to be used by r128_dri.so, so I assume I had to compile
r128.o. However, the compilation guide says not to compile the kernel
module (r128.o).

Also, I saw some posts on dejanew mentioning something about /dev/dri. I
don't have that, nor did I find any info on it.  Any suggestions?




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From: "R. Tyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:58:00 +0000

In article <937i2a$te1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chris J/#6"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> blix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I am currently using PAN... it seems to be the closest to the newsreader
>>I am used to on my Windows machine (MS Outlook Express). 
>>
>>But I've been trying to use emacs to read the news but find it very
>>non-intuitive and cumbersome. Is it worth it to learn to read the news
>>in emacs? 
>>
>>What news readers do you all use? 
>>
> 
> trn, and I run innd locally with suck so I can read news offline. No
> gui-ness but rather decent and powerful :)
> 
> Chris...
> 

Pan 
   It does the job - is very easy to use and set up.
 I have used pine and slrn, but now prefer Pam.
 Try the available newsreaders and then pick the one that suits you
 It is all down to individual preference.
             Hope this helps,
                  Reg

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: How do I get my NIC:s started on RH6.2 boot???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:52:17 GMT

I have two NIC:s (3C509 combo) in my RH6.2 server. Since it is a
server install I have no KDE or any other GUI tools at hand :-(
I have had to add the two cards to mu /etc/conf.modules file in order
to be able to use the cards at all. But every time I start up Linux I
have to do the following as root:
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
route add default gw 192.168.0.129

Only at this point does the network function.
It is becoming rather tedious work and I want it all done as a part of
the startup. How can this be done?
Every time I install a Linux before I did it as a workstation and I
could use the KDE tools for this. Then it was somehow entered into the
system permanently, but not now. I tried adding ifcfg-eth0 and
ifcfg-eth1 files to the network-scripts directory but then the
ethernet driver totally refused to start so I had to remove them..

I have read Linux Networking HOWTO and Ethernet HOWTO and several
other docs but I can't find a tip on this problem....



Bo Berglund
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Red Hat dead/dying?
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:59:52 +1300

I guess the quote:

London attributed the layoffs to redundancies created by acquisitions, and
said the move has nothing to do with any troubles at Red Hat (RHAT). "This
is not a material event, so to speak," she said, noting that the layoffs
will affect "only 2 percent of 550 people."

hmm, typical wintrol anecdotal stories regarding how Linux is failings.  I
have said it once, and I will say it again, the future is in selling
services, NOT software, hence, the reason why Redhat is developing a
consulting wing to handle installation and integration of Linux.  If you
look at the big players, esp. IBM, most of there revenue is derived from
consulting/selling solutions based around there software, ie. creating the
ultimate integrated solution.

kiwiunixman

"James Hutchins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> http://www.wired.com/news/linux/0,1411,40513,00.html



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Help Please!!!
Date: 6 Jan 2001 15:06:00 -0800


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>can anyone sidgest a verson of linux that would be easily put on an old
>box with 8 megs of ram 1.5 gig HD pentium 100mhz cpu?
>i have tried mandrake 7.0 and it failed to load onto it
>any advice?

Slackware Linux 7.1 will run on that configuration.  

I do suggest that you get a lot more RAM though, that is going
to be a major bottleneck.

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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 15:07:50 -0800
From: Anthony Ewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: joining two lines

Hi,

   Not to ask a stupid question, but does anyone
know of a sed (or other) command to join every other
line in a text file?  For example

Before:
     abc
     def
    ABC
    DEF
    654
    321

After:
     abcdef
    ABCDEF
     654321

Many thanks,
--Tony
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