At 07:14 PM 4/14/2005 +0200, J. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Eric Bambach wrote:

> Ssh is the de facto standard for remote administration but It lacks the
> ability to give you a GUI interface.

What ? Search for SSH GUI and google returns +770,000 matches.. ! Other
than that it can be used to encrypt just about any connection, like for
example X .

> SSH Is quick and dirty

Send a message to one of the SSH lists with that line in the subject. ;-)

> remote administration and comes standard (or should ) on all Unix
> variants. (openssh.com)
>
> TightVNC is a rather "unrobust" remote X server but it gets the job done. This
> will let you connect remotely and get an X GUI session open.
>
> If you can afford it, ...........


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Then take 10min's of your precious time and look at some of the +200
projects that provide OPEN/FREE remote X administration.
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If you really want people to follow this sort of advice, you might want to be a bit more specific about your recommendations.

I tried the Google search you suggest above. I actually got about 667,000 matches. More important than the lower raw number, though ... the top few matches were to a *commerical* product (Techia), a GUI for *managing* sshd locally (SecPanel), and what looks like an *abandoned*, incomplete effort located at Sourceforge (ssh-gui, last updated June 2000).

I scanned the top 50 Google responses a bit more quickly, and saw a mix of secondary references to these 3 apps, mailing-list questions that offered no solutions, and references to tunneling VNC over ssh.

So some better guidence to the "+200 projects" you allude to would be welcome. I'm having no luck finding any of them in the Debian package management system ("apt-cache", that is, on Debian Unstable), using what I think of as obvious, beginner-level searching strategies. And your suggested Google search didn't prove profitable. So where are they, and are there any you can actually recommend to a beginner (this is a list where *beginners* ask questions, after all)?

(Just so you know ... I don't do much remote admin any more. When I do (did), I usually use(d) ssh-based console sessions. I've occasionally used tunneled VNC connections, and even more occasionally tunneled X, but I've always found the line speed (cheap ADSL on both ends) too slow to make gui-based approaches comfortable for any situation in which a CLI approach was a real alternative.)



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