Getting closer, but not there yet. I found out how to get ppp started on one isp (have to append .ppp to username) and used minicom to gather the information I need to get connected using chat. The resulting chat command line looks like this: chat -v -t 45 ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ OK ATDT4266530 ogin: myname.ppp ssword: mypass (all on one line, of course) It gets as far as putting ATZ on the screen, waits the 45 second timeout period, and quits. The following lines are entered in /var/log/messages: Sep 7 14:12:28 localhost chat[1038]: abort on (BUSY) Sep 7 14:12:28 localhost chat[1038]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Sep 7 14:12:28 localhost chat[1038]: send (ATZ^M) Sep 7 14:12:28 localhost chat[1038]: expect (OK) Sep 7 14:13:13 localhost chat[1038]: alarm Sep 7 14:13:13 localhost chat[1038]: Failed I'm stuck again - why isn't chat communicating with the modem? -jdr- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com