Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 09:09:59AM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:

Granted our dev process may not be documented, but I always assumed the general idea was to get changes accepted upstream, then pull into ofed. OFED is just a mechanism to make top-of-tree linux work on distro kernels. There are some exceptions, but this stuff shouldn't be an exception.

That is what many people wish for, me included, but it is not at all
what generally happens :(

In my observation the typical flow is:
 - A patch is written, it may or may not be sent to the list
 - 'business drivers' get it slammed into OFED right away
 - A patch is finally sent for proper review
 - It is not merged, there are comments..
 - Interest in doing anything is lost because it is already in
   OFED and that is all that matters, right?
 - People complain.

For instance, the iWarp thingy we were just discussing fits this
process rather well.


You're wrong. I started that iWARP change in 2007 on LKLM. I proposed a few ideas and show the pros/cons of each. And it was NAKed 100% by mister miller. It was then included in OFED as a last resort only because I couldn't get any help with trying to add this upstream in any form. I even spent a few weeks developing a way to administor "iwarp only" ipaddresses, but Roland didn't like that scheme for various reasons. So please don't mention that particular patch as a "bad process" unless you want to argue with me some more about it.

Also, the chelsio iWARP driver has 100% been upstream first, then ofed. Some of us are indeed trying to do the right thing.

<steps off soap box>


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