Linux-Setup Digest #446, Volume #19 Mon, 21 Aug 00 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: help: ppp connects but doesnt log on? ("Jim Harback")
Re: debian potato - selecting 'profile' to install now gone? (Colin Watson)
VM: Killing process ... (Peter Alliett)
Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo ("Adam H.")
Re: Slow Login? (Andrew Overholt)
Re: Compiler can't find anything - RPMS too! (Zebee Johnstone)
Re: Mounting CDROMs (Andrew Overholt)
Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo (Andrew Overholt)
Re: Linux for 486 firewall/server (Steve Zinck)
Re: SCSI cdrom player pauses when playing audio ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SuSE v's RedHat (Stewart Honsberger)
Modem "stall" (Lars Karlsson)
Anyone feel like helpin me out? - AGP + XF86 = DDD :o(
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
rpm? Ways around it? (Kevin Phung)
Re: SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup? (MaryP)
Re: SuSE v's RedHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VM: Killing process ... (Paul Kimoto)
hdd-kernel-parameters & hdd-geometry ("K. Posern")
Re: netatalk printing multiple copies ("Sheldon D. Stokes")
Re: rpm? Ways around it? ("pl")
Re: rpm? Ways around it? (Glitch)
Re: Modem-ppp-question (Glitch)
Re: How to run WM on remote display? (Mike Castle)
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From: "Jim Harback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help: ppp connects but doesnt log on?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:55:07 +0200
In article <8ns68c$cbd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ray Fencey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> hi
>
> trying to get ppp dialup to my isp to work but having a few problems -
> i've rebuilt my kernel (2.2.15) with ppp support and have pppd-2.3.10
> and testeed my modem and it does indeed dial out (got it to dial my cell
> phone)
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Ray,
You don't say what distro your running but, check /etc/sysconfig/network.
If there is a line: "Gateway= 192.168.x.x" or something similar, comment it
out. The modem is attempting to access your network.
Jim
--
Jim Harback
www.GlobalLinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: debian potato - selecting 'profile' to install now gone?
Date: 21 Aug 2000 21:02:29 GMT
Leopold Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've tried finding an answer to this problem with deja and on the
>debian-site... couldn't find anything and now I ask for your help:
>
>I try to install debian 2.2 and everything runs fine, except that i'm
>missing the option to install profiles instead of packages/dselect. I would
>like to install a profile, as this seems easier than going through the
>packages.
I'm not sure exactly what way the installer looks now (it's some time
since I did a Debian installation from scratch rather than an upgrade),
but in potato the profile system has been partially replaced by various
"tasks". Running 'tasksel' from a root shell after the reboot should (if
tasksel actually gets installed, that is, which I'd hope it would) let
you install those task packages.
*rummage* See:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/
ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections
(recombine onto one line, of course). This actually says that profiles
are still available - perhaps I ought to try installing Debian on a
scratch partition. :)
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Racism is generally the last refuge of the unimportant."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Alliett)
Subject: VM: Killing process ...
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:21:07 GMT
I have a problem with a Mandrake 7.0 server today
I notieced it giving my the following messages
VM: Killing process sendmail
VM: Killing process named
VM: Killing process procmail
VM: Killing process ipod3d
VM: Killing process httpd
What does this mean and how do I fix it.
Peter
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From: "Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:53:18 +1000
Hi,
I have / had a PC setup with Windows and Redhat 6.2 (duel boot via Lilo).
Windows decided to play up, so I re-installed it, however it appears as
though
it's clobbered the Master Boot Record, and along with it Lilo. I can't boot
up
into RedHat anymore. Can anyone please tell me how to re-install Lilo onto
the MBR, without having to re-install linux again.
Thanks
Adam
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From: Andrew Overholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow Login?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:52:12 GMT
Thanks - when I changed the hosts back to what it was before it fixed the
problem.
Craig Kelley wrote:
> Andrew Overholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [slow xdm login problem snipped]
>
> > 2. I changed my /etc/hosts file so that my computers on my network have
> > names
>
> X11 tries to lookup the localhost, and if you took that out of your
> hosts file (or messed up the entry), it would explain the delay you're
> seeing.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Compiler can't find anything - RPMS too!
Date: 21 Aug 2000 20:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.setup on Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:06:18 GMT
Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is probably a serious new user question and I feel that I am liable
>to get a lot of hassle but here goes...
>
>I can't get my compiler to compile anything. I am using openlinux 2.4
>and I am trying to use programmes from tucows amd also a src rpm. The
>compiler can't find X includes, some programmes accept the
>--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/lib , others don't. They also can't find things
>that are there: one tarred source couldn't find qt or qt2 when I have
>both, an RPM (rpmfind I think) couldn't find libtcl.so.0 when it was in
>my /usr/lib directory.
>
>Do I need to set system paths for this sort of thing? Its strange that
>the rpms can't find these, it seems that because they aren't installed
>from rpms they can't see them, I don't know.
Makefiles often assume where things are, and if your distribution
keeps them somewhere else, then you have to tell the Makefile where
they are.
If the thing you are compiling doesn't use Gnu config, then you have
to dive into the makefile and use the arguments to cc/gcc to do it.
Go into the tarred source directory, hunt for a file Makefile.
Then edit that, looking for a variable up the top that is something
like "LIB" or "XLIB". give it the dirs your X stuff lives in.
If there is nothing that looks like it's suitable, read the man page
on gcc and hunt the cc/gcc lines, and add your own arguments.
If you find that most sources are expecting things in say /lib and you
have them in /usr/lib, then try s symbolic link (man ln).
>Also, where is a good place to get assorted lib files that rpms need? I
>need all sorts of stuff I can't find.
>Maybe rpmfind...
rpmfind is a good start, but your install cd probably has them.
What I did was go to the RPM dir on my install cd and do
rpm -qvilp * > /var/rpm.list
Now I had a complete list of everything on the cd. If I needed a
particular library, I just had to trot over to /var and type less
rpm.list then search for the library. Then I knew which rpm to
install.
Zebee
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From: Andrew Overholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting CDROMs
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:58:43 GMT
> If you have disabled the IDE CD interface, you can't use /dev/hdd to
>
have I "disabled" it completely?
> refer to your CD Rom, you must use /dev/scd1. Try substitute
> /dev/scd1 in your fstab.
>
> Davide
/dev/scd1 gives wrong major/minor number error
This is currently what I get when I try to mount /dev/hdd:
mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
or too many mounted file systems
I'm assuming that the second cd drive on my second ide channel is still
hdd even though I have made the first one SCSI? If I wrote over /dev/hdd
by accident, can I fix that somehow?
This is what I get from mount:
mount:
/dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,conv=binary)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
/dev/scd0 on /cdrw type iso9660 (ro)
Can I make it so that users other than root can mount cds?
Thanks,
Andrew
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From: Andrew Overholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:00:15 GMT
Hi,
Boot via your Linux Boot Disk and then run the command "lilo" as root. This
will restore your mbr to the way it was. (By the way, I have done this twice
in the past I believe :)
Good Luck,
Andrew
"Adam H." wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have / had a PC setup with Windows and Redhat 6.2 (duel boot via Lilo).
> Windows decided to play up, so I re-installed it, however it appears as
> though
> it's clobbered the Master Boot Record, and along with it Lilo. I can't boot
> up
> into RedHat anymore. Can anyone please tell me how to re-install Lilo onto
> the MBR, without having to re-install linux again.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
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From: Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for 486 firewall/server
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:07:55 GMT
You've got yourself enough resources with the 486 system to install a
distribution such as Debian (http://www.debian.org) with just the bare
essentials, or you could check out the Linux router project,
http://www.linuxrouter.org. I've never heard of floppyfw.
Whichever you choose you're going to have to read some docs to get
things going perfectly. Check out the Network, Firewall, and
Masquerading HOWTOs, http://www.linuxdoc.org (mind you I haven't read
these in years, although they should be helpful).
If you get stuck, a good resource to find docs is
http://google.com/linux (if you didn't know already)
James Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi: I have three computers that are using wingate as a proxy server and
> I would like to use an old 486 with 16 meg of ram and 200-500 meg hard
> drive as a simple server/firewall. I have fought with floppyfw and have
> finally given up after 3 weeks of 3 hours a night trying to get it to
> work. What can I use that wont drive me insane trying to get it to work?
> Currently all my machines are win98 and after i get a firewall set up i
> want to put together a play computer so I can learn linux on. Any help
> would be much appreciated. I have a cable modem setup from shaw@home for
> my ISP.
--
Steve Zinck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.nerd.halifax.ns.ca
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom player pauses when playing audio
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:15:06 GMT
Linux Community:
Do you really mean I've stumped every expert, every pro, every ONE,
with a simple problem of making an audio CD play from a SCSI drive?
I guess I'm expecting too much - worked fine on MS Windows though....
[Note: please excuse this obvious troll to at least get someone to ack
my post and say they don't know either!!!]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: SuSE v's RedHat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:26:36 GMT
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:23:00 -0700, Scott Mann wrote:
>There are no direct equivalents. SuSE does network configuration
>in a "master" file that includes other config options. It is
>/etc/rc.config.
The rc.config file is actually merely the config file for the
/sbin/SuSEconfig application. SuSEconfig just edits all the affected
files with the requisite changes made in rc.config.
It's quite possible to abandon the use of rc.config and hand-teak all
the config files yourself. Any file that you hand-tweak will (should)
be left alone by SuSEconfig in subsequent runs. It'll complain about
the file having been edited by something other than itself, but that's
as far as it'll go.
>Also, it sets up initial routing table entries,
>including a default router, in /etc/route.conf. The start-up
>script is /etc/rc.d/network.
Since this person is obviously switching from RedHat, why not let him
know the proper place of these files? Take a look at your /etc directory
at the listing of "rc.d";
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 3 06:07 rc.d -> ../sbin/init.d
The proper (standard) place for these files is actually /sbin/init.d in
which you can find the rc#.d directories for all the runlevels.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test6
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From: Lars Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem "stall"
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:33:51 GMT
Hi all,iam wonder why the modem "stall" it can work for about 10 seconds
then it stall for 30 sec, or so, and then work for another 10 to 15 sec
and stall again and so on,someone out there who have a answer to this?
Thanks.
Lars Karlsson.
(I use RedHat 6.2 Deluxe, and RHppp dialer and Kppp behave on the same
way)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anyone feel like helpin me out? - AGP + XF86 = DDD :o(
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:44:51 GMT
i have an SiS 6326 AGP card that doesnt seem to like redhat 6.1
when i start it up, it just gives me a black background ... it can
show the redhat logo if i start with XDM, but i only get text fields
if the cursor is active in them, and i only get buttons if i click on
it... AGP2x is disabled, everything else works fine, but i cant for
the life of me, get X to work :'(
anyone?
please?
i will post my cfg's when i reboot to linux... thanks in advance!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Phung)
Subject: rpm? Ways around it?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 00:11:36 GMT
Hello
I'm a newbie and I'm wondering if there's a program or a switch in
rpm which will allow me to install a program without getting a dependency
flag and then having to install the dependent program
first. Redhat6.1.
thanks a lot
--
Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MaryP)
Subject: Re: SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:18:24 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > . . . Everything seems to work
> > swimmingly . . . I think the entry in rc.serial works fine and it
> > keeps rc.local a bit less cluttered but I think it's 6, 1/2 dozen of
> > another. Question though: is the use of IRQ 11 somehow frowned upon?
> > I've seen certian info detailing IRQ 11 as "Reserved". Should one not
> > use IRQ 11 for some reason? The only reason I'm using it now is b/c I
> > let my PnP BIOS configure the modem and that's what it used.
> > - TC
Nothing I've ever read and nothing anybody has told me suggests it's off
limits if it works and doesn't break something else. Why not just keep
track of how you've assigned it and if there is a conflict later on when
you add more hardware, you can sort it out?
M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SuSE v's RedHat
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:43:26 GMT
In comp.os.linux.security Stewart Honsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since this person is obviously switching from RedHat, why not let him
> know the proper place of these files? Take a look at your /etc directory
> at the listing of "rc.d";
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 3 06:07 rc.d -> ../sbin/init.d
> The proper (standard) place for these files is actually /sbin/init.d in
> which you can find the rc#.d directories for all the runlevels.
This is neither proper, nor standard. The applicable passage in fhs
2.1 is under /etc:
The setup of command scripts invoked at boot time may resemble
System V or BSD models. Further specification in this area may be
added to a future version of this standard.
So it's definately non-standard. It's also not proper, since /sbin
should be shareable, and boot scripts are not guarenteed to be.
--
Matt Gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: VM: Killing process ...
Date: 21 Aug 2000 20:46:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Alliett wrote:
> VM: Killing process sendmail
> VM: Killing process named
> VM: Killing process procmail
> VM: Killing process ipod3d
> VM: Killing process httpd
>
> What does this mean and how do I fix it.
The system was running out of memory, and so it decided to kill some
processes. Do you have enough swap? enough RAM?
--
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.
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From: "K. Posern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: hdd-kernel-parameters & hdd-geometry
Date: 22 Aug 2000 00:54:30 GMT
Hi.
First of all a simple question: Do I have to pass the *physical* or the
*logical* geometry with the "hdc=X,Y,Z" - kernel - parameter?
I think I have to use the *logical* geometry... but what about the
phyiscal one? - Can I tell the kernel somehow about them?
Now about my hdd:
I've got a harddisc with the following geometry:
The manufacturer (IBM) says in the models datasheeet:
User cylinders (physical): 27724
Data heads (physical): 6
Data disks: 3
On the harddisk itself I found the following:
CHS=16383/16/63
LBA: 90 069 840 sectors
And 90069840 / (16*63) = 89355
If I pass "hdc=16383,16,63" with "append=" in the lilo.conf to my 2.2.14
kernel a "cat /proc/ide/hdc/geometry" says:
physical geometry: 89355,16,63
logical geometry: 16383,16,63
And if I pass "hdc=89355,255,63" with "append=" in the lilo.conf to my
2.2.14-kernel the "cat /proc/ide/hdc/geometry"-command says:
physical geometry: 89355,16,63
logical geometry: 89355,255,63
But I think it should look like:
physical geometry: 16383,16,63
logical geometry: 89355,255,63 OR (???) 89355,16,63 ???
So what (which values) do I have to pass to the kernel?
???
Oh... and my BIOS is only capable in handling harddiscs <= 8,4 GB and
there is no further Bios-update available.
And the harddisc I spoke about is regocnized as a 8,4 GB harddisc with
255 heads and 1027 cylinders.
Should I let the BIOS detect the harddisc or should I enter "None" in
the BIOS-setup instead?
And should I pass "hdc=noprobe" to the kernel or not?
I am a bit confused about all this stuff with all these numbers...
Help on this would be great!
Kind regards
K. Posern
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From: "Sheldon D. Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: netatalk printing multiple copies
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:56:08 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I hope all of this helps illuminate at least the first part of your
> problem.
Yes it did. First off let me say thank you very much for the insightful
post about this problem. You have a much greater knowledge of the
problem than I had. Half the fun of linux for me is learning about the
OS and trying to share what little knowledge I have.
I suspect that there will be a lot of frustrated people out there with
this same problem in the future. SO I'll describe my fix in detail:
It looks like I solved my problem and here's how I did it:
Rather than download the newest lpr suite of source code and try to fix
it, I was lazy and tried the older lpr first. I had gotten netatalk to
work with redhat 6.0 but it had a lot of bugs in various packages as
well as the kernel (zip drive corruption comes to mind), so I went back
to the last stable version which I had good luck with. This was redhat
5.2.
I went to ftp.freesoftware.com and downloaded the SRPM for the
redhat-5.2 lpr daemon, which is: lpr-0.33-1.src.rpm. I installed that
(rpm -hvi lpr-0.33-1.src.rpm). I cd'ed to /usr/src/rpm/SOURCES
(/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES in a redhat installation). I then untared the
source (tar xfz lpr-0.33.gz). I then cd'ed into the lpr-0.33 directory
and typed make. A few seconds later I had some fresh old daemons.
Rather than install all the older daemons (lpd, lpr, lpq, lprm), I just
installed the lpd daemon. The lpd daemon usually sits in the /usr/sbin
directory (you can find it by typing "which lpd"). Rather than delete
it, I moved it, and copied the new lpd into the same directory.
You'll either have to reboot or kill the lpd daemon (it's the newer
broken one). After I killed the lpd daemon and ran the older one
manually, I printed sucessfully and only one copy. I rebooted and tried
again. It works well.
The 0.33 lpr daemon works for me on a 600 MHz P3 running mandrake linux
7.1, and printing via 10 mbit ethernet to an apple laserwriter 4/600
which has a localtalk to ethernet bridge from asante. I'm using
netatalk 1.4.2 as well.
I suspect the redhat 6.0 lpr package may work for you as well, but I
haven't tried it.
Hope that helps others with the same problem.
Sheldon
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From: "pl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm? Ways around it?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:04:03 GMT
In article <8nsgfo$1og$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Kevin Phung) wrote:
> Hello I'm a newbie and I'm wondering if there's a program or a switch in rpm
> which will allow me to install a program without getting a dependency flag and
> then having to install the dependent program first. Redhat6.1.
>
> thanks a lot
> --
> Kevin
there is a way around it using the --nodeps flag (do a 'man rpm' for more info)
rpm -Uvh --nodeps whatever.rpm
but be prepared to deal with the problems this may cause. The dependencies are
there for a reason.
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:08:43 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm? Ways around it?
man rpm will tell you to use -nodep i believe or something else..I
never use rpm myself but i know its possible, just not sure what the
switch is
read the man page, thats what it's there for
Kevin Phung wrote:
>
> Hello
> I'm a newbie and I'm wondering if there's a program or a switch in
> rpm which will allow me to install a program without getting a dependency
> flag and then having to install the dependent program
> first. Redhat6.1.
>
> thanks a lot
> --
> Kevin
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:09:41 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem-ppp-question
probably ISP connection timing out. i have the same modem and have no
trouble
try setting up a cronjob to ping a site every 3 minutes or so and see if
it helps
Jim Haynes wrote:
>
> I have a problem that when I try to download a large file it often hangs
> and I get little or nothing. The setup is Actiontec call-waiting internal
> modem and PPP under Red Hat 5.2. Wondering if modem initialization
> strings need tweaking, or is the kernel too old, or is it my ISP or
> my phone line or something about packet sizes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to run WM on remote display?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:47:02 -0500
In article <WVco5.122228$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>.. which worked, but veeerry slooooowwly .... I think that running the WM
>in Hummingbird might not be such a good idea after all... :(
I've heard complaints about Hummingbird being slow. Period. WM or no.
There are other, better Win32 X servers.
mrc
--
Mike Castle Life is like a clock: You can work constantly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and be right all the time, or not work at all
www.netcom.com/~dalgoda/ and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc
We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen
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