Linux-Setup Digest #23, Volume #20 Sun, 12 Nov 00 13:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: dual boot newsgroup (Colin Watson)
Re: Newbie with a DNS? problem (Black Dragon)
Re: dual boot newsgroup (Black Dragon)
Re: How do you record setting during setup? (Black Dragon)
Re: LinuxMandrake 6.0 is disgusting (Colin Watson)
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: Boot-problem (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166 (Cliff Sarginson)
Need help to setup a CD-ROM Writer Through a SCSI externail port. (Asmoden)
Helix Gnome Adding User ("Raajah")
Re: dual boot newsgroup (Colin Watson)
Re: How do you record setting during setup? (Colin Watson)
Re: dual boot newsgroup (Black Dragon)
Need help setting up second SCSI CD-Rom (Tim Banner)
trouble in netwoking (Francesco Nerieri)
Re: trouble in netwoking (Francesco Nerieri)
Pb Mount manuel avec mdk 7.1 et 7.2 ("Jeje")
Please Help RH6.0 DOSEMU cannot execute binary files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: dual boot newsgroup
Date: 12 Nov 2000 14:04:38 GMT
Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There are so many questions about dual boot that it deserves a
>comp.os.linux.dualboot.
Documentation on creating newsgroups is here:
http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/naming/part1/
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/how-submit.faq
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/good-proposal.faq
I might be willing to do this if you don't have the time.
>The dual boot questions are of no interest to me. I avoid dual boot no
>matter what operating system. I even use a new computer when I have to
>switch to summer time.
:) Dual boot questions are always full of fiddly details and problems
with other operating systems. As such, I don't think
comp.os.linux.dualboot would really be the right place for it, as it's a
topic covering many operating systems, not just Linux. I think my
preferred newsgroup line would be something like:
comp.os.dualboot Booting among multiple operating systems.
... although some people might want a name like comp.os.multiboot, since
you can triple-boot, etc.
The most important thing to find out is how much traffic (in terms of
posts per day) there is on dual-booting. I wouldn't like to argue from
less than 100 on-topic posts a day Usenet-wide. However, there will be
discussion on multiple-booting all over the place, so I don't expect
this to be too hard to prove. It's also important to stress that the
current discussion in e.g. comp.os.linux.* is often misplaced, and
require expertise of other operating systems.
Finally, the proponent gets the jobs of generating interest in voting
for the creation of the new group, of joining the discussion in
news.groups, and of generating interest in using the new group after its
creation (e.g. by redirecting questions from here to that group).
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"It stands for 'Sales and Marketing', you depraved monkeys."
"A rose by any other name, Stef." - http://www.userfriendly.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a DNS? problem
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:11:33 GMT
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:25:18 -0800 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `sambaBasher' said:
>I have just installed Red Hat 7.0 (and use Gnome) and can connect to my dial
>up ISP. My problem is that I can only connect to websites via their ip
>address. Is there something simple that I am missing?
>
>Thanks, David Hirose
You need to configure the DNS resolver. Put the ip addresses of your ISP's
primary and secondary domain name servers in /etc/resolv.conf as follows:
nameserver {primary.nameserver.ip.address}
nameserver {secondary.nameserver.ip.address}
See also: "man resolver"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: dual boot newsgroup
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:16:42 GMT
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:19:09 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Peter' said:
>The dual boot questions are of no interest to me. I avoid dual boot no
>matter what operating system. I even use a new computer when I have to
>switch to summer time.
Quit whining and kill philter posts about dual boot, or don't read them
at all. Usenet ain't exclusively all about you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: How do you record setting during setup?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:18:45 GMT
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:00:43 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Peter' said:
>Is it possible to have Mandrake or similar distros record all the
>settings and options selected during setup so they can then be
>inserted in to documentation for future setups?
Don't know myself, but do you know what a camera is?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: LinuxMandrake 6.0 is disgusting
Date: 12 Nov 2000 14:20:18 GMT
yongelok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip user shot himself in the foot with an old distribution, sob, sob]
> Why can RedHat, Caldera, Corel and other companies offer Linux
> software( which contains millions of lines of code ) for such
> a low price? Because they do not write these software themselves.
> They merely copy it from the Internet, and repackage it.
You're not very clever, are you? First off, the people who actually
write the software offer it for free (in terms of both price and
freedom) anyway. Secondly:
* Alan Cox, maintainer of the stable branch (2.2) of the Linux kernel,
works for Red Hat.
* Ulrich Drepper, maintainer of the GNU C Library, works for Red Hat.
* Red Hat own Cygnus, which was founded in order to make extremely
prolific contributions to the GNU toolchain (gcc, gas, binutils,
etc.).
No doubt there are more, but I can't be bothered to think of them.
Anyway, as such, Red Hat pay a lot of people's wages so that they can
work on free software. I'm no great fan of the Red Hat distribution, but
they certainly have written plenty of software themselves.
If you really feel that you have to pay money for software, I'd like to
sell you some lottery tickets too.
> If the consumers know the insider story about how these
> low-priced linux OS software is produced, I think they
> will fell ripped-off and will revolt again RedHat.
*laugh* Good try. If you're bothered by companies backing Linux, try
Debian. Of course, you should be able to download most of the other
distributions for free, too.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And I forgot the next verse / Oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse
The music sheet's so hard to find / What are the words? Oh nevermind"
- "Smells Like Nirvana", Weird Al
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:16:03 +0100
Scott Nolde posited:
> Chris Jones wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wish to install linux (redhat) as a dual boot option on a machine
> > currently running windows98 only. I need to increase the disk space to
> > do this so would like to replace the current 1Gig disk with a somewhat
> > larger one (20Gig or so). Now, I suspect my machine may suffer from the
> > 8.4 Gig 1024 cylinder limit BIOS issue which would effect windows but
> > not I gather linux.
> >
> > If so could I get around this problem with the following ? If I place
> > the linux boot partition and the windows partition below the 1024
> > cylinder limit, and then make the remaining space above 1024 into linux
> > partitions. I've used linux quite a bit but never installed a system so
> > I don't know if this is possible, or just a dumb idea ?
> >
> > Of course I could just not bother with windows at all. Attractive but
> > unfortunatley I suspect I still will need it from time to time.
> >
> > cheers Chris
>
> RedHat 7.0 no longer has the 1024 cyl issue.
>
> - Scott
>
But what you suggest to do will work just fine .. (and not a dumb idea at
all !).
Install Windows first though !!
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot-problem
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:22:57 +0100
Lee posited:
> Hi,
>
> I can't go to the Slackware setup. The main problem is my
> floppy-controller being fried since I bought my motherboard. It can't
> read/write most floppies (so I can't use boot/rootdisks), so I used
> loadlin to boot an initial ramdisk, but the initrd won't load. On the
> net there are some articles which say it's an old bug in loadlin, which
> causes loadlin to refuse to load an initrd. I used this command:
>
> loadlin c:\bare.i root=/dev/ram rw initrd=c:\color.gz
>
> I used some variations of this (like adding mem=128M), but that didn't
> help either. These are my hardware-specs:
>
> MSI K7T Pro motherboard
> AMD Thunderbird 700 MHz
> 128 MB PC100 RAM
> Maxtor 15 GB IDE harddisk
> + some other drives and PCI-boads which don't matter
>
> Any alternative ideas to boot appreciated!
I hate to say this, but wouldn't it be prudent to fix the floppy drive
problem ?
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:20:37 +0100
Jason Umbarger posited:
> i am attempting to install linux on an acer pentium 166 with 80MB ram, a
> 30 GB harddisk, IBM 33.6 Mwave modem, some type of integrated video
> card...
>
> i'm having a lot of trouble... each distribution i attempt to install
> locks up at one point or another (i've tried redhat 6.2, corel 2d ed., and
> icepack). i also tried turbolinux server 6.0 lite which displayed L1
> repeatedly on my screen or just once in the upper left corner, depending
> on
> which installation attempt we're talking about... i've repartitioned,
> reformatted, cleaned out the first sector (or whatever you call it where
> LILO is installed), etc. more times than i can count, so i don't think
> that's the problem.
>
> can i run linux on this machine or is it just somehow not compatible with
> that os? if there is some compatibility problem, how can i remedy it? if
> linux won't work on this machine -- is there some other operating system
> that will which is fairly accessible to a newbie but also more stable than
> win95?
>
> thanks for your help!
> jason
>
>
You might be having a compatibility problem, or you might be falling victim
of over-confidant installation programs (redhat springs to mind). I failed
to install redhat on 5 different PC's of varyting specifications.. and then
I discovered the trick .. run redhat installation in text mode.
However my personal recommendation is Suse 7.0.
Good luck (don;t despair!)
Let us know how you get on
Cliff
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From: Asmoden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help to setup a CD-ROM Writer Through a SCSI externail port.
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:52:59 GMT
Hi all,
I have a question on how to set up an externail SCSI CD-ROM wrtier for
a linux box running Mandrake 7.1
the questions that I have are as follows:
What hardware device do I mount the writer to? (/dev/?)
do I make a directory for the writer? (/mnt/writer)
and what software is the best for this job
the second part of the question is this:
Can linux write to HPUX format (assuming that HPUX uses its own format
for cd-roms)
Thanks for any help in Advance.
Martin.
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From: "Raajah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Helix Gnome Adding User
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:12:59 GMT
I am using Helix code gnome on my RedHat 6.1 system. All of my users are
able to use gnome, all of them were defined before gnome was installed. I
added a new user, but he cannot access gnome at all. He gets a blank screen
with none of the icons or the any of the panels. Could someone suggest how
to fix this problem. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: dual boot newsgroup
Date: 12 Nov 2000 15:15:34 GMT
Black Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:19:09 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Peter' said:
>>The dual boot questions are of no interest to me. I avoid dual boot no
>>matter what operating system. I even use a new computer when I have to
>>switch to summer time.
>
>Quit whining and kill philter posts about dual boot, or don't read them
>at all. Usenet ain't exclusively all about you.
But it is (in a small part) about helping the dual-boot people, and
perhaps they would be better served in a newsgroup that isn't
Linux-specific.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And finally, the most important part of any GUI, the command-line
interface." - Branden Robinson, Debian XFree86 maintainer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: How do you record setting during setup?
Date: 12 Nov 2000 15:18:57 GMT
Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible to have Mandrake or similar distros record all the
>settings and options selected during setup so they can then be
>inserted in to documentation for future setups?
Debian is moving in this direction, so that you can copy the list of
selected packages (with 'dpkg --get-selections' and 'dpkg
--set-selections') and the debconf database to another machine and thus
replicate a setup. It's not quite there yet.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"However, most netters acknowledge the offline world's advantages,
despite the fact that it is slow, clunky, and hogs bandwidth."
- "Surfing on the Internet", J.C. Herz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: dual boot newsgroup
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:31:25 GMT
On 12 Nov 2000 15:15:34 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Colin Watson' said:
>Black Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:19:09 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Peter' said:
>>>The dual boot questions are of no interest to me. I avoid dual boot no
>>>matter what operating system. I even use a new computer when I have to
>>>switch to summer time.
>>
>>Quit whining and kill philter posts about dual boot, or don't read them
>>at all. Usenet ain't exclusively all about you.
>
>But it is (in a small part) about helping the dual-boot people, and
>perhaps they would be better served in a newsgroup that isn't
>Linux-specific.
If they are dual booting Linux, it *IS* Linux specific.
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From: Tim Banner <tim.banner*NOSPAM*@btinternet.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Need help setting up second SCSI CD-Rom
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:40:46 +0000
Sorry if this posting is in the wrong group, this is my first posting to a
linux group.
Upto now I've done pretty well setting up and running my Linux box using
HowTO's and online manuals, but this one has me stumped. I've never got my
SCSI CD-Writer working. I think Linux is only detecting my SCSI CD-ROM.
My SCSI card is a Tekram DC390, and the CD-Writer is a Philips CDD 3600.
I've scanned through the CD-ROM HowTO and it recommends reading the
SCSI-HowTO, which I'm just starting. It suggests including the line
max_scsi_luns = 8 if you are using devices on other LUNS besides 0. I'm
not quite sure if the number asigned to the SCSI device is the LUN, ID or
channel but I've given it a try anyway. Linux appears to scan the device
at start-up, but I can't use it.
I've read the output from dmesg and it only mentions one scsi cd device at
boot. The error I get when I run mount is:
"mount: /dev/scd1 has wrong major or minor number"
I assume /dev/scd1 since /dev/scd0 is the cd-rom (but I've tried the rest
of scdx). I've also checked the major and minor numbers and they appear
correct as well. I'm guessing I'm getting this error message because the
kernel is not expecting the device.
I'll keep reading the HowTO's, but I hope somebody could speed up my
process a little and shine some light on what I'll bet is a simple problem
(i.e. a second scsi cdrom device requires a boot up perameter).
TIA
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From: Francesco Nerieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: trouble in netwoking
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:28:29 +0100
i've got three pc's connected via HUB, one is the gateway configured with
masquerading (A linux) and two clients (B linux, C linux/win), i don't
know why but all the traffic going from linux/win to gateway and viceversa
is copied and sent to the second linux box. I.e. if i'll visit a web site
with C all the traffic can be viewed by B (with tcpdump for example). No
sniffers in B. the hub light for B does not blink, but the light of the
network adapter of B blinks. any idea?
thanks
francesco
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From: Francesco Nerieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trouble in netwoking
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:40:50 +0100
sorry i made mistake configuring B as a gateway too.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Francesco Nerieri wrote:
> i've got three pc's connected via HUB, one is the gateway configured with
> masquerading (A linux) and two clients (B linux, C linux/win), i don't
> know why but all the traffic going from linux/win to gateway and viceversa
> is copied and sent to the second linux box. I.e. if i'll visit a web site
> with C all the traffic can be viewed by B (with tcpdump for example). No
> sniffers in B. the hub light for B does not blink, but the light of the
> network adapter of B blinks. any idea?
> thanks
>
> francesco
>
>
>
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From: "Jeje" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,fr.comp.os.linux.configuration
Subject: Pb Mount manuel avec mdk 7.1 et 7.2
Date: 12 Nov 2000 17:15:04 GMT
Salut,
Je n'arrive pas à monter mon cd-rom manuellement (l'install de la mdk 7.1 et
7.2 est semi automatique ), comment puis-je faire (ou la taper) ???
A+
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please Help RH6.0 DOSEMU cannot execute binary files
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:58:23 GMT
Hello,
In spite of having read all the Faqs and readme's available
I cannot get DOSEMU working.
- parse error in /var/lib/dosemu/global.conf
- on execution : "cannot execute binary files"
RH is on the third disk ( sdc )
W98 on C and D (sda and sdb )
I have to boot from a diskette because loadlin neither works.
Please Any help.
jm
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