Linux-Setup Digest #73, Volume #20 Sun, 19 Nov 00 21:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Questions from newbie to Linux (Juergen Heinzl)
Drive removal and Lilo ("Sam Varner")
Re: Help : allocating table damaged!! (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: Web server setup problem ("Lance Veitch")
Additional Driver Disk for NE2000 and AMD PCnet? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect) (Nicholas Pappas)
Re: staroffice installation (John O'Sullivan)
ppp idle connection termination (Dmitry Litvintsev)
StarOffice 5.2: Printing slides in Portrait mode. (John O'Sullivan)
Re: A Little Help with Installing Linux From Scratch and not from one of the
distributors
Re: ppp idle connection termination
! Install Question ("Circles")
ntpdate problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Please Help: How to manually upgrade the whole system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ppp idle connection termination (Bill Unruh)
ethernet nightmare! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gnome and window position (Noble Pepper)
Re: A Little Help with Installing Linux From Scratch and not from one of the
distributors (Noble Pepper)
Re: Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect) (Scott Nolde)
Re: mimetypes in Netscape6 (Topaz Crow)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Questions from newbie to Linux
Date: 19 Nov 2000 22:58:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jf arocha wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just bought a computer with no software and I would like to install some
>distributuion of Linux. Since I am completely new to Linux I want to buy
>one of the distributions on CD. Now, which distribution should I buy? I
>have read contradictory opinions on this, some claiming that Corel is
>easier because it is the more similar to Windows. This doesn't not work
>for me because I come from the Mac camp and have very little experience
>with MSWindows. I have read a few reviews of Mandrake 7.2, but some people
>told me that it wasn't very good for beginners. Others seem to like Debian
>very much and have recommended it to me.
[-]
IMHO get the one people use who you know to be willing to help in case
of problems. Yes, I do mean it, say ask your friends -- I'm not using
a distribution, so no preferences ;)
>Second, I have looked for information about installing Linux, but what I
>have read seem to assume that you have Windows installed. Do I have to
>install Windows first?
[-]
No, but more than one OS is the most troublesome case while a pure Linux
comes down to -- create all partitions, format, install, done. As a newcomer
I'd not bother too much about what the best partition scheme could be and
so on, as you can do a re-install later on.
Cheers,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : Jürgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: "Sam Varner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Drive removal and Lilo
Date: 19 Nov 2000 23:07:06 GMT
I have a box with two IDE drives. Lilo sits on hda and my
Linux partitions are on hdb. I want to remove the current hda and just
use the other drive. But I'm having trouble with the lilo setup.
Here's what I tried. I removed the first drive, set the jumpers on the
second and changed the bios settings. Then I booted from
a rescue disk. I mounted the second disk (now hda), edited lilo.conf
and ran lilo (with the appropriate -r argument). Lilo failed with the
message "Boot sector of /dev/hda doesn't have a LILO signature." Can
someone tell me what this message means and how I can make lilo happy?
Thanks.
Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Help : allocating table damaged!!
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:17:33 GMT
pjadin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hï there,
>
>I have I think a serious problem.
>I'm french but I'll try to explain simply. ;)
>Last time I shut down Linux (Mandrake 7.0) there was no problem.
>But now when I boot on Linux there's no more partitions!
>My hard drive is built this way:
>partition principal :
>win98 (c:)
>extended partitions with logical partitions:
>/boot
>/swap *2
>/
>/home
>/tmp
>/var
>Fat32
>When I use fdisk or partition magic it says the second partition is
>unallocated.
>When I use the partition tool from Mandrake it says my allocating table
>is damaged and cannot be restored. :(
>I didn't write down each size and places of my logical partitions and I
>didn't save the table somewhere on a floppy disk.
>But is there a way to restore my extended partition and of course to get
>back my stuff?
>If I make again partitions and don't format them can I find my stuff
>back?
>Any hope? ;)
>Thank you
>Patrick
To provide some more information you can get Findpart at
http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm, do from DOS or Windows
findpart all +fat fp.txt
and post the content from fp.txt. Do not attach the file, since some
newsservers will filter that.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: "Lance Veitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web server setup problem
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:39:57 +1000
I fixed the problem. The Listen was directed to the local IP address and
not the net IP.
Thanks.
"Lance Veitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:SPYR5.37075$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a web server running Apache which is connected to the web
> permanently.
> I can browse the web via this connection. From the web people can ftp
onto
> the server send and receive email, ping the site. What they cannot do is
> see my home page. The web server can be seen on the local network but not
> via the PPP connection. The URL is : www.dka.net.au or 203.47.45.145
>
> I have gone through many HOW'To's without success. Anybody had a similar
> problem. What are the mininum setup requirements to get it to work
> properly.
>
> TIA
> Lance
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Additional Driver Disk for NE2000 and AMD PCnet?
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:36:59 GMT
Hi all
I have to install a RH Linux system on a computer with a NE2000, respectively
an AMD PCnet NIC. Unfortunately there are no drivers available anymore on the
boot disks, nor on the additional "drivers.img".
Where could I find those drivers and how could I create such an additional
driver disk, which is loadable during the installation process?
Thanks for any help!
Phil
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From: Nicholas Pappas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:54:49 -0500
I just installed a new RH7 and am having trouble getting it connected to
the network.
On other RH systems I installed (6, 6.1 and 6.2) it picked my NICs up
during install, but that didn't happen this time. I have done a
complete install with both a D-Link and LynkSys card in the computer.
Both cards have been put into different slots and both always show the
green connection line, which also appears on the HUB -- so I know that
the two are talking to eachother... it is just RH that can't seem to see it.
I have no problem installing the NIC card "by hand", but I have not had
to do this before and am unsure of the procedure. Can some kind Linux
Guru please pass along any information that might help me install the card!
Many thanks!
Nick
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From: John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice installation
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:59:11 GMT
James,
Here's how to do a multi user install of Staroffice 5.2. posted some time
back.
John
[remove numbers in my email to reply direct]
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StarOffice 5.2 for Linux: Multi-user Install Instructions.
===================================================
Having fun trying to install StarOffice 5.2 in multi-user mode?
Nice product - shame about the install instructions. Clear as mud.
After much messing about, here's how to do a multi-user install.
It's really very simple, when given proper instructions. This will allow
any user on a standalone PC to run StarOffice from their own accounts.
1: Assume you have the downloaded files in some directory (it doesn't
matter where, really) called, say, /home/fred/SO_tmp.
2: Login as root and, in a terminal window, cd to this directory.
3: If you downloaded Star Office as one big file, do:
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -net
If you downloaded the 10 smaller files, do:
./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-000.bin -net
4: During installation, change the default install directory from
/root/office52 to /usr/local/office52 (and let the installer create
this directory). Ignore warnings about Java and database files.
5: When this install is done, logout of root and login as a normal
user (say: fred).
6: In a terminal window type: /usr/local/office52/program/setup
This will create a small (2.7Mb) office52 directory in fred's local
directory. It will also add a StarOffice menu item to fred's Personal
folder( K->Personal->StarOffice 5.2) from which you will normally
start StarOffice.
During this local install, use the the default Installation Type
(ie. Standard Workstation Installation).
7: Repeat step 6: for each user on the system. And that's it!!
Have fun!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This worked for me:
>
> As su (root), move the so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin file to /usr/local
>
> # mv so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /usr/local
>
> Change into the /usr/local directory
>
> # cd /usr/local
>
> These next two commands will install StarOffice 5.2
>
> # chmod +x so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin
> # ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin -net
>
> When prompted to Select Installation Directory,
> select /usr/local/office52 [The installation list /root/office52 by
> default.] You will be prompted to create the /usr/local/office52
> directory. Select Yes. Click Complete.
>
> When the installation is complete, each user on the system that wants
> to use StarOffice will have to log in with their username and run the
> setup file from their /home/username directory.
>
> # /usr/local/office52/program/setup
>
> After setup is complete, run the program with:
>
> # /home/yourusername/office52/soffice
>
> Or, create a shortcut.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Curt
>
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From: Dmitry Litvintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp idle connection termination
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:01:42 -0600
Hi!
Anobody knows how get rid of termination of ppp connection
due to idle time?
(idle 99999999999 in ppp/options does not seem to help)
rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Link inactive"]
LCP terminated by peer (Link inactive)
thanks in advance,
Dmitry
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From: John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: StarOffice 5.2: Printing slides in Portrait mode.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:07:56 GMT
HI,
I'm using Staroffice 5.2 under Linux Mandrake 7.1.
When using the presentation package, I want to print
a slide in PORTRAIT mode, rather than landscape.
The print options contain an Orientation option to switch
between Portrait and Landscape. But It doesn't work. It
ALWAYS prints in landscape mode, even if I select Portrait.
Why is this? How can I print slides in Portrait mode?
Thanks,
John
[remove the numbers in my email to reply direct]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: A Little Help with Installing Linux From Scratch and not from one of the
distributors
Date: 20 Nov 2000 00:26:37 GMT
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:23:06 -0700,
Rick Stalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If I can get the kernal installed
and a shell installed onto my HDD and can
>boot to it then I think I can get
everything else up and running. I just
>need some documentation on
the first part of this install..
http://www.linuxfromscratch.com
Have fun,
MP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: ppp idle connection termination
Date: 20 Nov 2000 00:39:12 GMT
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:01:42 -0600,
Dmitry Litvintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anobody knows how get rid of termination of ppp connection
>due to idle time?
>(idle 99999999999 in ppp/options does not seem to help)
>
>rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Link inactive"]
>LCP terminated by peer (Link inactive)
It looks like your ISP terminated the
link because it was inactive for too long.
"terminated by peer" means they did it,
not you.
You will have to find out how long your
ISP lets a connection run without activity
before killing it. Mine allows 15 minutes.
Then you can set something up to ping or
fetch mail or whatever at shorter intervals,
or you can allow the line to drop and be a
good guy and not tie up one of their
connections if you really aren't using it.
(I don't know your true situation, that
isn't meant to be a nasty comment.)
MP
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Reply-To: "Circles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Circles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: ! Install Question
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:43:25 +0100
Hi,
I am new to linux world and i verymuch like it so far.
As you know when installing rehdat 6.1 as workstation or a server,
there are many other unwanted applications that are installed automaticly!
that is like 500mb and when i choose custom installation and select no
options
it installes 124bm of data. is there any way to to install linux to the
minimum?
all i need is a webserver ,mysql and php ?
thanx for any replys
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ntpdate problem
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:12 GMT
Hello, I've set up ntpd on my desktop system and am trying to sync my
laptop (and eventually others) off it using ntpdate. (Debian
2.2/potato). It appears that ntpdate does not like my ntpd, according
to debugging output shown below. However, it doesn't seem to complain
when given the IP of a public stratum 2 timeserver. ntpd on the desktop
was set up out of the box with a few IPs of public timeservers, no other
modifications than to put 'disable auth' in /etc/ntp.conf. Any ideas?
19 Nov 16:50:55 ntpdate[690]: ntpdate 4.0.99g Wed Apr 5 01:44:48 MDT
2000 (1)
transmit(192.168.0.1)
receive(192.168.0.1)
transmit(192.168.0.1)
receive(192.168.0.1)
transmit(192.168.0.1)
receive(192.168.0.1)
transmit(192.168.0.1)
receive(192.168.0.1)
transmit(192.168.0.1)
server 192.168.0.1, port 123
stratum 16, precision -17, leap 11, trust 000
refid [0.0.0.0], delay 0.02606, dispersion 0.00000
transmitted 4, in filter 4
reference time: 00000000.00000000 Wed, Feb 6 2036 22:28:16.000
originate timestamp: bdc2f3da.863af31b Sun, Nov 19 2000 16:50:34.524
transmit timestamp: bdc2f3ef.d69131ec Sun, Nov 19 2000 16:50:55.838
filter delay: 0.02615 0.02606 0.02606 0.02606
0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
filter offset: -21.3140 -21.3140 -21.3140 -21.3140
0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
delay 0.02606, dispersion 0.00000
offset -21.314083
19 Nov 16:50:55 ntpdate[690]: no server suitable for synchronization
found
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please Help: How to manually upgrade the whole system?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:04:38 GMT
Hi all
I tried to upgrade my Linux RH v6.1 to v7.0. First I tried it with rpm. This
basically broke my system because of all those libc dependencies. So I tried
it with the update software on the netboot floppy disk image. It loaded all
the new package information from the FTP server. But then, during the
comparison to the installed packages, it always crashes.
So my question is: How can I upgrade my whole system? How do I have to deal
with the libc family? Is there somewhere a detailled description how to
perform such an update?
Thanks for any help!
Phil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: ppp idle connection termination
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:27:12 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dmitry Litvintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Anobody knows how get rid of termination of ppp connection
>due to idle time?
>(idle 99999999999 in ppp/options does not seem to help)
>rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Link inactive"]
>LCP terminated by peer (Link inactive)
Notice. This is a "recieved " message-- it was your ISP who decided to
disconnect you due to timeout, not your machine. You cannot fix this
except by discussing it with your ISP ( why should he let you hog a line
you are not using?) or by making sure that the line is not idle.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ethernet nightmare!
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:32:22 GMT
I get this message as my computer is starting up.
The message goes something like this: starting
lpd.2000-11-19-15:24:24.17.694 Get_local_host:
hostname 'localhost.local' bad
I specified the the host name as:
localhost.local -- I have tried different things
like just putting in my name as the host and
different stuff like that. Nothing seems to work.
When shutting down the computer I also get
ldp [Failed]
Also when I try to ping anything -- from a
specific IP addess to a web site, it won't do it.
So now tried: route add default eth0
after I hit enter I see: Network Down
So do I have two problems, or just one and when I
fix the first one I mentioned, will it then
resolve all of this other stuff?
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome and window position
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:41:57 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
avatar wrote:
> I remember back when I was using RH6.2, when you moved windows around, it
> would show you the cordinates of its position, ie 367 X 52. When I
> installed Helix, i think this feature disappeared, and it isn't present in
> RH7. Anyone know how to turn this feature back on, if that's possible? I'm
> trying to use it so I can configure SawFIsh's matched windows to place
> windows where I want them. Thanks.
I believe the feature you describe is in the Enlightenment window manager,
the "technical" theme if I remember right.
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Little Help with Installing Linux From Scratch and not from one of the
distributors
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:51:53 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rick Stalker wrote:
>
> "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8v9bmo$8u8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Rick Stalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >I'm a very experienced user.. I've been using computers for about 14
> Years
> > >now, I've used everything from the first Dos, Windows and Os/2, to the
> > >latest version of those operating system, I know how to configure them
> > >to
> do
> > >what I want, So when I ask this question don't answer back, This will
> take
> > >forever or only Advanced users should try this or Just install it from
> one
> > >of the Distributors.. Because I know what I'm doing, and I know it will
> take
> > >awhile...
> >
> > See the Linux-From-Scratch-HOWTO at:
> >
> > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > "Logic is about flogging a dead horse." - Computer Science lecturer
>
> Thanks for the Suggestion, I have already check that place out, and it is
> good for getting everything installed, It will tell me what needs to be
> installed and everything.. But they want to do it from a linux partition
> that has already been installed, and create a new partition for the LFS..
> But I want to do the installation from either a bootable CD or a Bootable
> floppy, I just need to know what to Copy over to the Floppy or CD so I can
> create a Bootable Partition on the HDD..
>
> Thanks for the help
>
>
I still think the LFS is probably your solution. I can't imagine how you
will accomplish this without GCC and fitting that on a floppy will be fun.
If you use the LFS and modify to use mulitple partitions, you should end up
with what you want.
i.e.
install a distro in one partition.
make your system on another partition
reformat the distro partion, use it as your /usr or /home
with some forethought on partition sizes this is a very nice way to set
things up.
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:43:50 GMT
Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>
> I just installed a new RH7 and am having trouble getting it connected to
> the network.
>
> On other RH systems I installed (6, 6.1 and 6.2) it picked my NICs up
> during install, but that didn't happen this time. I have done a
> complete install with both a D-Link and LynkSys card in the computer.
>
> Both cards have been put into different slots and both always show the
> green connection line, which also appears on the HUB -- so I know that
> the two are talking to eachother... it is just RH that can't seem to see it.
>
> I have no problem installing the NIC card "by hand", but I have not had
> to do this before and am unsure of the procedure. Can some kind Linux
> Guru please pass along any information that might help me install the card!
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Nick
Turn PnP off in the BIOS?
- Scott
--
Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze! |
8:40pm up 7:58, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.03, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Topaz Crow)
Subject: Re: mimetypes in Netscape6
Date: 20 Nov 2000 02:00:59 GMT
Reply-To: alt.anonymous.messages;ATTN: Topaz Crow
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:21:33 +0100, Stig Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey people
>Where did all the mimetypes go in netscape6? Can it really be true that you
>have to punch 'em all in by hand, or am I missing something here?
>
That's what I did. I couldn't find any info on maybe using 4.7#'s mimetypes.
But I'm having problems with that also.
If I want xmms to start when getting a feed from mp3.com for file type .m3u I
can't do it. Because when NS6 saves the mimetype it goes to M3U. Capitals.
I assume this is why it's not working because that's the only diff.
Netscape 6pr3 was better than the final. At least it was usable. 6 final
locks on me every time I hit the stop button. Also will not even connect
to secure web sites.
What a dissapointment.
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