Linux-Setup Digest #464, Volume #20 Sun, 21 Jan 01 11:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: USB Keyboard, 3Com Network Card and the new 2.4.0 kernel. ("Robert B. Gamble")
Re: Kernel 2.4 (Steve Martin)
Re: Kernel 2.4 PPP Support (Steve Martin)
Re: Partition problems RedHat7.0/WinME on Compaq Presario 1700t ("Dave C.")
Re: Kernel 2.4 ("Sri Panyam")
Re: LIlo / Grub (Mandrake update problem) (Bit Twister)
No fonts for GNOME? w/ XFree86 4.0.2 ("Jason M. LaPenta")
Re: Kernel 2.4 ("Sri Panyam")
Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux (W. Seager)
LILO problems (Samuel Padgett)
Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ? (Frederic Faure)
Re: Why do I get auto-logged-out of my telnet session? (Frederic Faure)
Re: RH7 not recognizing NIC (Carlos Moreno)
Sound Problem on T20 (Maize Taylor)
Re: LILO problems (Brian Goodyear)
Re: LILO problems ("Tomas Andersen")
Re: LILO problems ("Tomas Andersen")
Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
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From: "Robert B. Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB Keyboard, 3Com Network Card and the new 2.4.0 kernel.
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:14:36 GMT
Rasmus B=F8g Hansen wrote:
> =
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, S. G. Student wrote:
> =
> > "Robert B. Gamble" wrote:
> > >
> > > "S. G. Student" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Robert B. Gamble" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to upgrade the kernel on my Redhat Linux 7.0 system=
=2E I am
> > > > > having trouble getting it to work because I have not found a wa=
y to
> > > > > simply upgrade it while keeping all the same settings currently=
setup
> > > > > with 2.2.16-20.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to use the make config and have it default to al=
l the
> > > > > current setting of my running kernel? The two problems I am hav=
ing are
> > > > > with my USB keyboard and my 3Com network card.
> > > > >
> > > > > Both work fine with my current kernel, but when I compile the n=
ew
> > > > > kernel, I cant seem to find the magic setting to keep them work=
ing.
> > > > > Without either (USB Keyboard, or 3Com network card) I have no w=
ay of
> > > > > shutting down aside from the power switch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please provide instructions as to how to solve stated problems.=
Thank
> > > > > you,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Robert B. Gamble
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > if you saved your old .config copy it to the source tree and then=
do a
> > > > make oldconfig. This will present you with only the new choices =
for the
> > > > new kernel. The sourceforge site points to some pretty good usb
> > > > documentation.
> > >
> > > I was trying to do that, however, the RedHat 7.0 install did not se=
em to
> > > leave any trace of the .config file. Is that because the Kernel is =
pre
> > > compiled with the RedHat 7.0 software?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --
> > > Robert B. Gamble
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Don't know about RH but Debian puts a copy in /boot
> =
> They are in /usr/src/linux/configs/ IIRC.
> =
> Rasmus B=F8g Hansen
Thank you, I found them. I'll try using the one for my CPU, and I'll let
you know how it goes.
-- =
Robert B. Gamble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:17:46 GMT
Sri Panyam wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Yep i ran lilo each time after the change was made to lilo.conf. How
> can i find out the cylinder at which the kernel is located?
Well, it probably is easier said than done. The easiest thing is to look
at the partition info with fdisk. If fdisk shows that your boot
partition is entirely located within the first 1024 cylinders, then it
is impossible for your kernel to be outside that range (kind of a
negative-proof method).
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4 PPP Support
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:20:32 GMT
Steve Withers wrote:
> I have two modules that do this: PPP and the IBM_TR token ring driver. I
> choose it in the kernel config.....but it will neither compile into the
> kernel, nor load as a module (module not found). When I do make
> modules.....ain't nuthin' to make...there seem to be files missing.
Did you upgrade modutils? The old one won't work with the 2.4 kernel
(yet another thing that almost drove me nuts until I RTFM'd :).
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From: "Dave C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Partition problems RedHat7.0/WinME on Compaq Presario 1700t
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:40:09 GMT
What tool did you use to resize the Windows partition? I would suggest a
Windows boot disk with fips for that job. I hope you backed up your
(windows) data files first. This could get ugly. One thing that I see is
that your hda2 is under the 1024 cylinder limit, but you are attempting to
load from hda5.
Maybe you are trying too hard. I've got Win ME and SuSE 7.0 both installed
on my Gateway Solo 5300. I didn't bother with a separate "boot" partition.
I shrunk the Windows partition to ~6GB, leaving ~4GB for linux (casual linux
user). During setup, I didn't use FDISK, but rather the graphical
equivalent, and created three partitions: / about 1900MB, /home about 1900MB
and swap of about 150MB. When prompted, I allowed SuSE to install lilo.
Works great.
Note that I've also tried RedHat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 on this system. For
various reasons, I chose not to keep either of those distributions
installed, but they both installed and booted OK . . . no partitioning
problems.
I would suggest you remove ALL linux partitions, and try again, without the
separate boot partition, and give RH more control of the install (keep it
simple, no FDISK). It just might work.
But first thing you need to do is boot to a Windows (DOS) floppy disk and
try to copy any important data files from your Windows partition, before
they are gone forever. Good luck, -Dave
--
On linuxfreemail dot com, I am user "spamfilter".
"Andrei Pushkarev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can someone please help to resolve partitioning problems on Compaq
> Presario 1700T.
>
> Here is my system information:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
> PIII 850Mhz
> 20 Gb HD
> 256 Mb RAM
> Phoenix Bios 4.0 Release 6.0.8 03-00
> System BIOS revision 9/12/2000 0F03
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
> I am installing RedHat 7.0 using "expert" mode . The following I get
> from fdisk:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>
> Disk /tmp/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 2584 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /tmp/hda1 * 1250 2197 7166848+ c Win95 FAT32
> (LBA)
> /tmp/hda2 1 2 15088+ 83 Linux
> /tmp/hda3 2198 2584 2925720 c Win95 FAT32
> (LBA)
> /tmp/hda4 3 1021 7703640 5 Extended
> /tmp/hda5 3 951 7174408+ 83 Linux
> /tmp/hda6 952 1021 529168+ 82 Linux swap
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
> The boot partition is on /tmp/hda2 and is under 1024 cyl. limit.
>
> Next I am installing LILO on /dev/hda MBR, no linear mode, no kernel
> parameters, default boot image is on /dev/hda5
>
> After installing the system, I see in the text mode:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
======
>
> Fatal: cylinder number is too big geo_comp_addr (1249>1023)
> Device 0x0301 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
======
>
> Attempt to reload computer loads WinME, but with frozen screen and
> without some buttons.
>
> Thanks, Andrei
>
>
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From: "Sri Panyam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:48:34 +1100
Hi
Yep i just checked it and it IS within the 1024 cylinders.
Sri
Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sri Panyam wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Yep i ran lilo each time after the change was made to lilo.conf.
How
> > can i find out the cylinder at which the kernel is located?
>
> Well, it probably is easier said than done. The easiest thing is to look
> at the partition info with fdisk. If fdisk shows that your boot
> partition is entirely located within the first 1024 cylinders, then it
> is impossible for your kernel to be outside that range (kind of a
> negative-proof method).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LIlo / Grub (Mandrake update problem)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:08:42 GMT
try mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 --version $(uname -r)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 04:42:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>how can I create a linux boot floppy?
--
The warranty and liability expired as you read this message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man command_here or cat command_here, before using it.
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From: "Jason M. LaPenta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No fonts for GNOME? w/ XFree86 4.0.2
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:13:06 -0600
Hello,
I just upgraded from XFree 86 4.0.0 to 4.0.2 and the fonts that GNome
uses for all the buttons and menus and stuff no longer appears. I.E. all
menus pop up with nothing. I did not have this problem with 4.0.0. In
reading the docs for X11 I saw that not all fonts are supported, in
particular on my system Type1 and Speedo fonts are not getting loaded.
Is there someway I can change the font that gnome is using so I can see
the menus. I tried to do this under the control panel for gnome theme
manager, but the custom font there didn't change the fonts I'm talking
about. Or better yet, anybody know a work-a-round for fixing the Xft so
I can load my Type1 and Speedo fonts?
Thanks
Jason
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From: "Sri Panyam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:57:44 +1100
Hi All
Well good news and bad news...
Good News:
I got the new kernel working. I actually had to replace the symlinked
System.map from the old map to the new map file.
Bad News:
I am gonna have a hell of a time getting updating my modules unless there is
a faster way of doing it...
Sri
Sri Panyam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94b1hv$rsb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>
> I just compiled version 2.4 of the kernel and was able to create a boot
> iamge successfully :- bzImage. I copied it to the /boot and updated
> lilo.conf to the following (after copying bzImage to /boot/bzImage.myker):
>
> **************
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> linear
> default=myker
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
> label=linux
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda1
> image=/boot/bzImage.myker
> label=myker
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda1
> *****************
>
> However, at the lilo prompt, when i select "myker" as the image, it prints
> the following and hangs up:
>
> **************
> loading myker.....
> Uncompressing linux ... Ok booting ...
> **************
>
> Has any one else come up with this. How can i fix this:
>
> Thanks In Advance
> Sri
>
>
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From: W. Seager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:59:39 GMT
futurewei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Any suggestion for good application like Microsoft Office for Linux?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
wordperfect 2000 suite for linux is feature rich and fun to work
with -- but it is not particularly stable (with care it is certainly
useable though).
--
W. Seager
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Subject: LILO problems
From: Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:04:54 GMT
Recently, I attempted to upgrade my Debian (unstable) system to the
2.4 kernel. After rebooting, however, LILO freezes after printing two
only two letters, `LI'.
I checked around on the web a bit and found this means that the second
stage boot loader failed to execute often due to a disk geometry
problem. I tried adding the lines `lba32' and `linear' to my
/etc/lilo.conf, then running `lilo -v'. Neither worked. I even tried
uninstalling and reinstalling lilo, which didn't help.
I'm really at the end of my wits here, and any help would be greatly
appreciated. Anyone know how I can resolve this probem? Perhaps I
can use another boot loader?
Here is my /etc/lilo.conf:
lba32
boot=/dev/hda6
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot-menu.b
prompt
timeout=150
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
label=2.4.0
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21
label=2.2.18pre21
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
Here is the output of `df':
sam@harpo:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6 3.2G 917M 2.1G 30% /
/dev/hda5 15M 2.7M 11M 19% /boot
/dev/hda7 973M 7.5M 915M 1% /home
/dev/hda9 1.3G 989M 375M 73% /d
/dev/hda10 1.3G 978M 386M 72% /e
Thanks for your help!
Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Subject: Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:26:17 GMT
On 19 Jan 2001 19:21:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Why would anybody bother with such weak hacks if you have 'cp -al'
>and 'rsync' if you are doing that over a network? Relax! You have
>now a real OS with real tools on it.
Do you mean that I can clone a Linux host (including MBR) into a file
on a remote file system, boot with a stand-alone Linux floppy, and
restore the image? Should I do this with dd, dump, or cp?
FF.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Why do I get auto-logged-out of my telnet session?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:26:19 GMT
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:58:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm running RedHat 6.2 on a PIII-700. Whenever I telnet OR ssh into
>that box, then leave the sessions idle for some amount of time (maybe
>1.5 - 2 hours), I get auto-logged-out.
I'm experiencing the same thing, whether it's on a RH 6.2 or 7.0,
telnet or OpenSSH 2.x, from a Windows host with PuTTY or SecureCRT.
The host is a desktop Dell.
Since I have no problem when working with other RH 6.2 servers we have
at work, I have no idea what is causing this on that Linux test host.
I was thinking of a bug in the network driver.
It happens much earlier than you (even 5 minutes, whether I'm typing
stuff or not). Somebody mentioned parameters in /etc/profile, but
nothing in there that looks like auto-logout. I also checked
/etc/bashrc, but no more luck. Weird, and a pain in the butt.
FF.
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From: Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 not recognizing NIC
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:35:46 -0500
Hi E J! Thanks for your message:
I still can't make it work... :-( Am I missing something or
is it that this procedure doesn't work with my particular
setup?
This is what I did:
I'm installing dual boot with Win2K
> Start->Settings->Control Panel->System
> Find the io and irq of your network card
> (Click off auto configuration: because when windows reconfigure the NIC,
> linux might not know the changes!!!
Hmmm... I don't find that option in Windows 2000. But I guess it
has nothing to do? (I mean, as long as I don't change anything in
the hardware...)
> Add this line to your /etc/modules.conf
>
> #-----start of my modules.conf for ne2k
> alias eth0 ne
> options ne io=0x280 irq=9 # my io and irq maybe different than yours.
> #-----end of my modules.conf
Done. No changes :-(
The values on my machine are: io=0xaaf0 irq=9. The only strange
thing is that Winodows reports a range for the IO -- AAF0 to ABFF,
or something like that. Should I somehow tell Linux the exact range?
Or the base address should suffice? (what would be the syntax in
such case? Something like io=0xaaf0-0xabff ?)
Thanks for your message! And thanks in advance for any other
ideas!
Carlos
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From: Maize Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Problem on T20
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:51:55 +0800
Hi,
I've installed RH6.2 on my ThinkPad T20. Sound card driver's from ALSA.
My problem is when my T20 awake from hibernation, it screams......
It seems that apm can't handle the sound modules when the system
resumes.
Could somebody teach me how can I unload and reload the sound modules
for hibernation by doing something inside apm-scripts directory?
Thanks in advance,
Newbie Maize
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From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO problems
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:03:51 -0500
Samuel Padgett wrote:
> Recently, I attempted to upgrade my Debian (unstable) system to the
> 2.4 kernel. After rebooting, however, LILO freezes after printing two
> only two letters, `LI'.
>
> I checked around on the web a bit and found this means that the second
> stage boot loader failed to execute often due to a disk geometry
> problem. I tried adding the lines `lba32' and `linear' to my
> /etc/lilo.conf, then running `lilo -v'. Neither worked. I even tried
> uninstalling and reinstalling lilo, which didn't help.
>
> I'm really at the end of my wits here, and any help would be greatly
> appreciated. Anyone know how I can resolve this probem? Perhaps I
> can use another boot loader?
>
> Here is my /etc/lilo.conf:
>
> lba32
> boot=/dev/hda6
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot-menu.b
> prompt
> timeout=150
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
> label=2.4.0
> root=/dev/hda6
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21
> label=2.2.18pre21
> root=/dev/hda6
> read-only
>
> Here is the output of `df':
>
> sam@harpo:~$ df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda6 3.2G 917M 2.1G 30% /
> /dev/hda5 15M 2.7M 11M 19% /boot
> /dev/hda7 973M 7.5M 915M 1% /home
> /dev/hda9 1.3G 989M 375M 73% /d
> /dev/hda10 1.3G 978M 386M 72% /e
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Sam
I have the impression you are missing a couple of lines...look at mine:
# LILO Konfigurations-Datei
# Start LILO global Section
boot=/dev/hda5
#compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
vga = normal # force sane state
read-only
prompt
timeout=100
disk = /dev/sda
bios = 0x80
disk = /dev/hda
bios = 0x81
disk = /dev/hdb
bios = 0x82
disk = /dev/hdc
bios = 0x83
# End LILO global Section
default=caldera
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/hda5
label = Linux
# Added by TreLOS for Win4Lin kernel
image = /boot/win4lin
label = win4lin
root = /dev/hda5
# Caldera
image = /boot/vmlinuz-pc97-2.2.14-modular
#image = /dev/hdc1
#range=1+512
label = caldera
root = /dev/hdc1
You don't have disk=????
you don't have a default=
Also when fooling around with those sorts of things it's a good idea before
you change things to make a resuce disk form the original booting system,
at least then you can get back in a adjust.
Hope this helps, Brian
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From: "Tomas Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO problems
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:59:39 GMT
"Samuel Padgett" wrote:
> Recently, I attempted to upgrade my Debian (unstable) system to the
> 2.4 kernel. After rebooting, however, LILO freezes after printing two
> only two letters, `LI'.
I do not know if this will help, but I had the same problem when I
recompiled
my 2.4.0 kernel on RH7.
I could not boot the linux partition on my HD. I inserted the linux
install CD and entered rescue mode. I mounted my linux partition and edited
the /etc/lilo.conf file to point to my old kernel.
Then I copied the lilo.conf file on the linux partition to my "rescue
partition" in
/etc
Then I ran lilo with the -r option to specify the device that lilo should
write on.
eg. lilo -r /dev/hda2
When I rebooted the system my linux partition started as normal and I could
experiment
with new kernels again...
I don't know if this helped.. or if I misunderstood your question
completely..
Best
Tomas Andersen
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From: "Tomas Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO problems
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:02:37 GMT
> Then I ran lilo with the -r option to specify the device that lilo should
> write on.
> eg. lilo -r /dev/hda2
Oops.. forgot something.. this is wrong..
you should run lilo -r /mnt/...
(the place you mounted your partition)
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any good officesuite like Microsoft Office for Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:08:26 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
futurewei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Any suggestion for good application like Microsoft Office for Linux?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Lee
>
StarOffice 5.2, if you are not impatient. It has fine Filters for .doc and
.xls. Applixware is much faster and works quite reliable for me. WP-Suite
runs on wine, therefore it is not fast and surely not stable.
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Auf der Donau 29
45139 Essen
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