Linux-Setup Digest #464, Volume #21 Mon, 18 Jun 01 07:13:08 EDT
Contents:
libstdc++ problem ("Krist")
Re: How can I find containing text in some files??? ("Duane Healing")
Re: slow telnet response ("Duane Healing")
Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed? ("Duane Healing")
Re: New HD Install (Robert Davies)
Re: Workaround to get HP Colorado IDE tape drives to work under RH7.1 (2.4
kernels). (Robert Davies)
Re: VIA Issues roundup (Dave Uhring)
Re: licq 1.0.3 on RedHat 7.1 ("Robert A. Smith")
Re: Mandrake 8.0 freezing with DMA problems, please help! (Dave Uhring)
Re: why is there no cut/copy option??? (John Beardmore)
Re: slow telnet response (H.Bruijn)
Re: Set Up on a Compaq Prolinea 466 (Niels Kristian Jensen)
Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions ("Gene Heskett")
Re: why is there no cut/copy option??? (Francois Labreque)
Problems compiling kernel with sound ("Stein M. Rustad")
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From: "Krist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: libstdc++ problem
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:27:50 +0200
Hi all,
I have a problem with Mandrake 8.0
When installing a prgram (in this case Netscape Messaging Server) I get
the following error:
./setup: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot
load shared object file: No such file or directory
I got a similar error when trying to install the PGP 6.5.8 binaries.
Looking at the installed software on my system I find out that I have
libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.48mdk
libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.48mdk
installed.
Creating a link like:
libstdc++.so.2.8 -> libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so doesn't work, as I
get complaints about missing symbols...
Aparently this version is not backwards compatible. or something else is
happening here.
Anybody have any idea on how to solve this?
Krist
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I find containing text in some files???
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:33:32 GMT
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Q.W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> Hi,all
> I want to search containing text "relay" in some files,How can do it??
> Thanks.
man grep
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slow telnet response
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:36:38 GMT
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> I setup several RedHat Linux Boxes. Their IPs are virtual IPs(10.0.3.*).
> One of them(10.0.3.254) is used as my gateway. When I tried to telnet
> from one machine to another one, I had to wait for quite a long time
> before I could see the login prompt. I used 'route' to check it, I also
> had to wait for quite a long time to see the result.However, the telnet
> response is very fast if I didn't set gateway in those machines.Could
> anyone tell me how to solve the problem? Many thanks.
Check /etc/resolv.conf. Make sure that everything in there is valid with
no typos.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 128MB RAM. No swap partition needed?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:50:36 GMT
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Some-One from No-Where"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> red hat book says 2x memory up to 128meg... you don't need more than 128
> ... ever.
If Red Hat is saying that they're full of crap.
Try loading a poster-sized high resolution image into gimp with 128 MB and
no swap. You'll see how fast you need more than that.
I've got 128MB on my main machine and using typical desktop stuff
Gnome+wmaker+browser+mail client+newsreader+xmms+various terminals I'm
_always_ using some swap. Also given 2.4.X's ongoing VM problems they're
currently recommending at least 2XRAM swap to keep from getting to much
of a performance hit. Even though that'll be fixed soon enough I'd still
recommend a fair bit of swap for just about any system with less than
.5GB RAM unless it's a box that sees only very minor use.
Just my NSHO :^)
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New HD Install
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:42:29 +0100
Taavi Hein wrote:
> : > Have you tried this? I think Windows insists on being on the primary
> : > master drive.
> :
> : It does not. I'm running Win98 ("upgraded" from Win95) on
> : the primary slave drive with no problems.
>
> Actually, windows will sit on whatever you say, even on secondary IDE. The
> problem is, that it does like to be on the same cable, it was when you
> installed it. If it was on primary master, it will work only on that
> cable, if it was on... etc. (at least my copy of W98SE).
No this is not true, I have moved Windows around a fair bit, my copy just
wants to be BIOS drive 0x80, so I use drive mapping, and table option in
lilo to get it to boot. It was originally in /dev/hda1, though that disk
is not in the machine any more.
other = /dev/hde2
label = windows
map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80
table = /dev/hde
Rob
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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Workaround to get HP Colorado IDE tape drives to work under RH7.1 (2.4
kernels).
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:52:04 +0100
Leonard Evens wrote:
> Robert Davies wrote:
>>
>> Denis Leroy wrote:
>>
>> > Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> I like the ide-tape off, I wonder if ide-tape works for anyone? My drive
>> seemed to work, but positioning commands failed completely and I gave up
>> on
>> it. IDE tape drives have a bad reputation, I'm wondering if it's the
>> driver's fault (ide-tape) because they seem fine once you've got them
>> operating correctly.
>>
>> Rob
>
> My HP Colorado IDE 2.5/5 GB drive worked perfectly with all kernels
> from 2.0.35 onward until I upgraded to RH.7.1 with kernel 2.4.2.
> From other reports, I think it may have stopped working with
> kernel 2.16. Also, since it seems to work fine with ide-scsi, it
> would appear to be a driver problem in the new kernel, not a problem
> with the tape drive.
>
> I did have one problem with previous kernels. The mt command didn't
> seem to work right with the fsf option when I had multiple archives
> on a tape, but I found a workaround. That may be what you meant by
> positioning commands. I found that everything was in file 0
> and if there were more than one archive mt -f /dev/nht0 fsf n didn't
> work. However, if I used mt to put write and eof after each
> archive, the positioning commands did work, but I had to use double
> the number of archives.
Now that is interesting, as the ATA-66/100 IDE patch is what went in, in
between, and I am affected with a 2.2.18 kernel.
Have you reported the problem? There are some notes in -ac series .
2.4.5-ac11
o Use new inits on ide_tape, add a reinit (Andre Hedrick)
I suspect 2.2.19 will be broken to, maybe 2.4.5-ac fixes it, and other
things like the VM!
Rob
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA Issues roundup
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:13:48 -0500
Wes newell wrote:
> Michael Perry wrote:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> Been tracking several VIA/southbridge related issues lately for my own
>> edification and would like to know if I missed any. So here goes:
>>
>> VIA IDE/southbridge issues with file system corruption - Perhaps fixed in
>> the 2.4.5 series of kernels with the new VIA IDE driver. One continuing
>> discussion which is interesting is the amount of tuning one should do
>> with hdparm against drives on a VIA/southbridge system.
>>
>> VIA and SB Live problems - I have an SB Live and have not found any
>> problems. Can anyone explain or provide more information as to this one?
>> Is it primarily corruption of sound being played back?
>>
>> VIA and PC133/PC100 memory issues - Seems like the VIA systems have some
>> issues with memory. I have PC133 memory and have not seen a problem.
>>
>> The issue around different drives and perhaps even problems related to
>> non-ide issues like with SCSI drives interests me. Does anyone have
>> problems with things like CDRW and scsi systems on a VIA chipset that is
>> affected? Like a KT133?
>>
>> From my one *vast* :) experience, the VIA drivers in the 2.4.5 kernel
>> have
>> taken care of some issues I have. I am using twin Maxtor ide drives
>> which
>> are working very well now. Secondarily, could someone provide the name
>> of a sound card which works well in Linux (not an SB Live) that they have
>> used in
>> these systems? I have a CD burner in my other KT133 system but I don't
>> burn
>> CDs too often so cannot testify how it works as of yet. Since I don't do
>> a lot of CD burning, I may just pull the burner out and put it in an
>> older system I have.
>>
>> I'm kind thinking of summing up a lot of this stuff on a simple web page
>> or something to help folks out with finding information, patches and
>> fixes, and archived discussion links from a lot of different reading I
>> have done on the subject lately.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Perry
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> --------------------
>
> Hmmm... I've just installed Linux for the first time (Mandrake 8.0). Using
> an
> Abit KT7-RAID MB with the KT133 chipset. I've mounted both fat and hpfs
> partitions and haven't noticed any file corruption yet. I think that's
> only with the KT133A chipset with the 686B(?) southbridge that supports
> ATA100.
>
>
>
>
Using MSI K7T Pro2-A here with the 686B southbridge and never had any disk
problems whatever. Drive is IBM-DTLA-307045 running at UDMA-5 (ATA-100).
Works in Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris.
Best sound card I've found is the Creative SB-128PCI (Ensoniq 1373 chip);
uses module es1371 and costs < 30 bucks including shipping.
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From: "Robert A. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: licq 1.0.3 on RedHat 7.1
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:20:10 +0100
Forgot to mention that rpm will still complain when you try to install licq.
Just add the --nodeps option to the rpm command, it'll work fine once it's
actually installed.
Rob
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Mandrake 8.0 freezing with DMA problems, please help!
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:20:34 -0500
Yu Di wrote:
> Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> What motherboard chipset is dmesg reporting?
>>
>> For the meantime, run as root
>>
>> # hdparm -d0
>>
>> which will turn off DMA and maybe save what data you have on the drive.
>
> Hi, I have pasted the "dmesg" output to the end of this message. When
> I tried to boot Linux this time, I noticed that it said IRQ is unknown
> for hda or so, and suggested using "pci=biosirq", so I re-booted and
> started Linux with the option "pci=biosirq mem=280M". Then I ran dmesg
> and got the information.
>
> Also, I found that my /usr partition has suffered losses, a lot of
> libraries were damaged, as a result a lot of applications cannot run.
> Therefore I will need to re-install everything. If you found what is
> wrong with my machine, could you kindly tell me how I can prevent it
> from freezing up during the installation also? Thanks a lot!
>
>From the admittedly limited experience I have had trying to use a 2.4.X
kernel on older hardware, I have found that the best solution is to turn
off DMA in the BIOS until you can get a 2.2.19 kernel built and installed.
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: why is there no cut/copy option???
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:29:45 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
>> Why is there no cut/copy option in the GNOME terminal window? That's really
>> annoying since I want to build a script file using sql statements from MySQL
>> and want to be able to paste them into a script file, but don;t want to run
>> the entire script each time to find out of the query in question worked
>> correctly.
>
>Highlight the text you want to copy then move to the window you want to
>paste it into and center click where you want it.
How do you centre click with a two button mouse ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: slow telnet response
Date: 18 Jun 2001 10:45:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 18 Jun 2001 01:58:28 GMT, Fred allegedly wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I setup several RedHat Linux Boxes. Their IPs are virtual
> IPs(10.0.3.*). One of them(10.0.3.254) is used as my gateway.
> When I tried to telnet from one machine to another one, I had to wait
> for quite a long time before I could see the login prompt. I used
> 'route' to check it, I also had to wait for quite a long time to see
> the result.However, the telnet response is very fast if I didn't set
> gateway in those machines.Could anyone tell me how to solve the problem?
> Many thanks.
Telnet (and most other services) tries to do a reverse lookup to try and
find the hostname of the machine which is attempting to connect. Since you
use ip-numbers from the reserved 10.0.0.0/8 address space, there is no
DNS server to do such a query to. That causes the delay, a telnet
connection is delayed untill that query times out.
Two possible solutions.
- The quickest is to simply put the ip-numbers and hostnames in
/etc/hosts. Since that file takes precedence over a DNS query your
time-out delays will be history.
_ When you run your own DNS-server, you can configure it to have the
in-adrr.arpa records for the ip-numbers you use. For more then a
handfull of hosts that is easier then manually maintain /etc/hosts files
on all machines.
Install a DNS-server (bind is most common) edit the config file
named.conf (or bind.conf) and add the lines:
zone "10.in-addr.arpa" {
type master ;
file "/etc/bind/10.in-addr.arpa";
};
/etc/bind/10.in-addr.arpa then contains something like
;
; bind reverse data file for localdomain.
;
@ IN SOA localdomain. root.localdomain. (
1 ; serialnumber
14400 ; refresh (4 hrs)
7200 ; retry (2 hrs)
604800 ; expire ( 7 days)
43200 ; default_ttl ( 12 hrs)
)
;
@ IN NS ns.localdomain.
; here starts the reverse zone for the ip's in the range 10.0.0.0/10.0.255.255
@ 0.10.in-addr.arpa.
; start with 10.0.0.0/10.0.0.255
@ 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
1 IN PTR gateway.basement.localdomain.
15 IN PTR host.10.0.0.15.localdomain.
;
; here start 10.0.3.0/10.0.3.255
@ 3.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
1 IN PTR host.10.0.3.1.localdomain
2 IN PTR host.10.0.3.2.localdomain
3 IN PTR host.10.0.3.3.localdomain
4 IN PTR host.10.0.3.4.localdomain
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://HermanBruijn.com
The Netherlands
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Subject: Re: Set Up on a Compaq Prolinea 466
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Kristian Jensen)
Date: 18 Jun 2001 12:54:18 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (lanceman) skrev i
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I'm a linux newbie and I'm having some problems getting redhat 7.1
>installed on my Prolinea 466.
>I just switched hard drives on it and used the compaq bios disk to
>make sure that everything was recognized. The hard drive is a Western
>Digital 3gb. When I run the boot disk I get a kernal panic. I know the
>bios setup is run from the hard drive. My question is how, if
>possible, do I overcome this? And is it worth trying.
http://www.geocities.com/rlcomp_1999/ may help you
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Date: 18 Jun 2001 5:39:37 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernel Upgrade Questions
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Rand Simberg;
RS> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:41:03 -0400, in a place far, far away,
RS> Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my
RS> monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>>> Better than 7.0, or better than 6.2? :-)
>>
>>Definitely better than 7.0; the jury's still out as to whether it's
>>better than 6.2. More tinkering is in order before I can answer that
>>one.
>>
>>Pros:
>> 2.4 kernel
RS> Already got it...
>> XFree86 4.0-series
RS> Why do I need it?
>> upgraded KDE and Gnome
RS> What's the benefit?
>> glibc-2.2 (only a "Pro" for those who have software that need it)
RS> Not a problem so far.
>>Cons:
>> Still has gcc 2.96 as the default GCC, you still have to
>> use kgcc for the kernel
RS> That's a big problem. I hate hacking kernel sources.
No its not. What you need are the latest versions of it, available
freely from rawhide. Later versions ROCK!, and are a heck of a lot
closer to full POSIX compliance. Between that, and the Stanford Code
Verifier fixes for 2.4.X kernel code, the actual warnings count in the
average kernel compile is maybe 2% of what it was with 2.95.2 and 2.2.x
source codes, and getting better by the -acxx release.
>> Some things have changed, notably some system administration tasks
>> have changed slightly and some file locations as well, plus the
>> superserver is now xinetd rather than inetd, so the
>> things you're used to doing may no longer work as you remember
RS> Sounds like a PITA to me.
>> RP3 dialler is a little flakey (although less than it was in RH7.0
>>IMHO)
RS> Doesn't matter, since I'm on a LAN.
>>Film at 11...
RS> <g>
RS> So, is someone going to tell me why I should upgrade?
RS> --
RS> simberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296
RS> (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax)
RS> http://www.interglobal.org
RS> "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..."
RS> Replace first . with @ and throw out the "@trash." to email me.
RS> Here's my email address for autospammers: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, 70MB ram, 31 gigs
| Linux @ 500mhz, 320MB ram, 50 gigs
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
#Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
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This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
is © 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: why is there no cut/copy option???
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:05:32 -0400
John Beardmore wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >"Jeff D. Hamann" wrote:
>
> >> Why is there no cut/copy option in the GNOME terminal window? That's really
> >> annoying since I want to build a script file using sql statements from MySQL
> >> and want to be able to paste them into a script file, but don;t want to run
> >> the entire script each time to find out of the query in question worked
> >> correctly.
> >
> >Highlight the text you want to copy then move to the window you want to
> >paste it into and center click where you want it.
>
> How do you centre click with a two button mouse ?
Make sure your XF86Config file has the line
Emulate3Buttons (or something like that!)
Uncommented and hit the the two mouse buttons simultaneously.
--
Francois Labreque | It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it
flabreque | is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
@ | the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a
videotron.ca | warning, it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in
| motion.
- Stolen from Badger's .sig file
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From: "Stein M. Rustad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems compiling kernel with sound
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:06:20 +0200
I use make xconfig and answer Y to "Sound Card Support", "Verbose init",
"OSS Sound modules", and "100% Soundblaster compatible"
But after compiling and installng the new kernel, during reboot I get no
Sound initialazion started/completed messages? Why? Is there any more
options I should answer Y to?
The kernel actually detects some isa card, but does nothing with it:
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: Calling quirk for 01:00
isapnp: SB audio device quirk - increasing port range
isapnp: Calling quirk for 01:02
isapnp: AWE32 quirk - adding two ports
isapnp: Card 'Creative SB AWE32 PnP'
isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
(Tried to use sndconfig, but required a modular sound kernel. Compiling
modules make lot of error more of that later.)
Have SB16 ISA and 2.4.2 kernel
regards
Stein
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