Linux-Setup Digest #26, Volume #21 Tue, 10 Apr 01 22:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: wow to get more colors out of X 4.0.2 ("Duane Healing")
Re: Executable vmlinux in /boot (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: ADSL - Connect to BTopenworld BUSINESS service ethernet router. ("Matthew Darcy")
Re: Linux and Solaris X86 (Ian Northeast)
Re: wow to get more colors out of X 4.0.2 ("Belfagor Arcidiabolo")
ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up (mrsmith)
Re: Can't print (drivers?) ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Can't print (drivers?) (Bill Unruh)
scsi_mod error on startup (Jason LaPenta)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output (Mike McDonald)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output (H.Bruijn)
Epson Photo 890 ("TheMartian")
Re: Where to find mkinitrd-2.9.1.src.rpm? (David)
Re: ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up (Lucien Carrier)
Re: ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up ("Dan")
Re: kernel / hardware problem (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: Help needed with Linux software install (E J)
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wow to get more colors out of X 4.0.2
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:15:14 -0700
Insert the line:
DefaultColorDepth 24
Between your Monitor and SubSection "Display" lines.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Hunter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed X windows 4.0.2 and am only getting the 8 bit color
> maps.
>
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Executable vmlinux in /boot
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:26:54 GMT
> Redhat has for the past few releases installed the uncompressed vmlinux
> file into the /boot directory, and gives no reason I could find for that.
>
> It is remotely possible that some commands will search the symbol table
> of vmlinux rather than reading the /boot/System.map for symbol values,
> as is quite common on traditional unix systems.
Thanks, that's the answer I've been looking for.
Regards,
Mladen
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From: "Matthew Darcy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.networking.general,redhat.servers.general
Subject: Re: ADSL - Connect to BTopenworld BUSINESS service ethernet router.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:24:53 +0100
I have btopenworld connected to the internet and 5 other computers proxy
through 1 gateway on it.
it is not easy to figure out but easy when you know how. drop me a mail and
I'll got through it with you.
Matt.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Colin Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ac88acb$0$12241$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Forgot to mention setup from ISP uses dynamic ip address
> Colin Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Does anyone know how to connect to the BTopenworld business router and
> logon
> > to allow IP masquerading? All the info I have read describes the setup
for
> > the usb modem. Could you please give simple instructions or advise
where
> a
> > HOWTO could be obtained.
> > Cheers
> > Colin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: Ian Northeast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Solaris X86
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:13:40 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> has anyone had any success on installing Linux by
> a) resizing a partition on solaris x86 and then
> b) installing Linux on the new partition
> Thanks
I have not resized a Solaris partition, but I have installed Linux onto
a system running Solaris. No problem at all. Boots with Lilo, the
Solaris partition is hda1 and is marked active, it's an "other=" with no
special parameters.
With modern Linux installers you have to watch out for the partition
IDs. Solaris uses 82 which is also Linux swap. You either need to change
the ID before installing Linux (recommended) or use an installer which
will allow you to choose swap partitions. Otherwise Linux will swap into
the Solaris partition, which is a bit fatal (for Solaris).
Regards, Ian
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From: "Belfagor Arcidiabolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: wow to get more colors out of X 4.0.2
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:29:49 +0200
Hey, wait: YOU HAVE a working driver for the Matrox G450 card
under Xfree 4.0.2? Where have you found it??
I am looking for that everywhere!!!!! Could you post the link to it?
Pleeease!!!!!
What is your motherboard? Your kernel version? Your chipset?
>
> I am using the livid driver for my Matrox 450 w/ 32mb of RAM and linux
> has drivers for my monitor (DJ800) natively.
>
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From: mrsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:29:15 -0500
I have tried every possibly way, accept apparently the correct one, to
get a Creative TNT2 card working with my Linux system. Here is what I
have; Mandrake Linux 7.2 updated with the initial ManFreq release for
KDE 2.1 and XFree86 4.0.2. From there, I have installed the XFree86
4.0.3 update on their site. This all works well.
I have downloaded and tried both the rpm and .tar.gz versions of the
Nvidia drivers from their site. I have installed each on fresh OS
installs follow the instructions from Nvidia, and various other
sources on the net. So far none have worked.
I have manually removed the Mesa library files, and went as far as
creating completely new XF86Config and XF86Config-4 files. Each having
been editied with the "Load glx" command enabled and the driver
reference changed from "nv" to "nvidia".
In every instance, upon booting, the OS drops back to run level 3 and
produces and error. The error begans by saying that no module path is
specified and it is using the default path, "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/".
Then it indicates an unkown error loading module "dbe". And an error
with the subsection "extmod". I have tried to specify the "ModulePath"
and it says it is not a correct command. I have moved the offending
modules into the default path and nothing is different.
I am stumped. I am new to this so don't know what else to try. I would
appreciate advice from anyone who has successfully installed an Nvidia
card. Thanks
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Can't print (drivers?)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:28:33 +0200
Taavi Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Absolutely none. You don't "get drivers" like you do with M$ Windows.
> : Tell PrintTool that it is an HP DeskJet 550.
> : You could have found this information at:
> : http://www.linuxprinting.org/
> Are you telling me, Linux doesn't use drivers (or anything of a similar
Not for printers, no ... they were originally one-way devices. You
don't need anything apart from the standard byte-blatting printer driver
to "drive" them. Just make sure to send them the right bytes, which
you'll get by transforming your input via a filter ...
> Well, I don't really care, if PrintTool uses 'drivers' or 'filters' or
You should ... they're very different animals.
Drivers start being necessary when we need to know more about the state
of the printer in order to be able to "drive" it effectively. But a
printer really only needs to be able to say "hold on a bit", or
"error", or "ok". so it's no surprise that the generic driver will do
for most. It's when the printer is bereft of reason that one needs to
start writing the driver that its creators forgot to embed in it.
> : Best advice, buy a hardware modem.
> Not the best (from my point of view), but the easyest one ;) If I had the
> money, I'd already have a real modem, instead of searching for help.
How can you not have the money? They're selling for $5 each on the
weekly market outside on Sundays here. A new external modem will set
you back $35.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Can't print (drivers?)
Date: 11 Apr 2001 00:09:47 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Taavi Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]> : Absolutely none. You don't "get drivers" like you do with M$ Windows.
]> : Tell PrintTool that it is an HP DeskJet 550.
]> : You could have found this information at:
]> : http://www.linuxprinting.org/
]> Are you telling me, Linux doesn't use drivers (or anything of a similar
]Not for printers, no ... they were originally one-way devices. You
]don't need anything apart from the standard byte-blatting printer driver
]to "drive" them. Just make sure to send them the right bytes, which
]you'll get by transforming your input via a filter ...
Well, not really true. Printers have a huge bunch of different commands
to do things and the printer driver converts the output to what th
eprinter wants. For example, you can set your printer up a postscript
and then use ghostscript to convert postscript to what the printer
wants.
]> Well, I don't really care, if PrintTool uses 'drivers' or 'filters' or
]You should ... they're very different animals.
well, not really.
]Drivers start being necessary when we need to know more about the state
]of the printer in order to be able to "drive" it effectively. But a
]printer really only needs to be able to say "hold on a bit", or
]"error", or "ok". so it's no surprise that the generic driver will do
]for most. It's when the printer is bereft of reason that one needs to
]start writing the driver that its creators forgot to embed in it.
Not true. Try sending HP Laserject graphics commands to a Bubblejet
printer. Or postscript to a dot matrix printer.
]> : Best advice, buy a hardware modem.
]> Not the best (from my point of view), but the easyest one ;) If I had the
]> money, I'd already have a real modem, instead of searching for help.
Buy a real modem. Find a neighbour whose grass you can cut to get the
money. It will take far far less time than the time you waste trying to
get a winmodem (even if drivers exist) to work and then to do the whole
thing again each time you upgrade the kernel or distribution.
]How can you not have the money? They're selling for $5 each on the
]weekly market outside on Sundays here. A new external modem will set
]you back $35.
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From: Jason LaPenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scsi_mod error on startup
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:21:00 -0400
Hello,
I recompiled my kernel to include scsi support and the generic support
etc. I have no scsi modules, it's all directly in the kernel. Yet when I
start up I get an error from scsi_mod.o with undefined symbols. How do I
get rid of this error? I've check modules.conf and it looked ok. I've
copied System.map to the right place and run depmod. Any idea of other
places to check?
Thanks
Jason
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Jason LaPenta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike McDonald)
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:49:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Johnny A. Solbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> A significant number of Linux users do NOT leave their=20
>> computers powered ON when they are done computing.
>> Also a significant number of Linux users does not run a server
>> or have a 24/7 connection. They don't even have a LAN.
>>
>> So shutting down their boxes is as natural as eating every day.
>
> Dunno... it seems to me that the population of users who are running
> systems that go up/down as you describe, but who don't have machines
> that do APM, should be getting fairly small by now.
You both are assuming it's being used as a computer. Linux runs lots of
other things too. Like consumer products where screen fulls of technobabble
isn't desired.
> And even if we accept that a machine goes down at night and comes up
> in the morning, I'm pretty much at a loss to understand somebody not
> wanting to see the messages. The general concept of not wanting
> information escapes me...
If this is a consumer product, unless something breaks, then the boot will
succeed just like every other time. Therefore the default should be to not
print extraneous junk to the screen. Only if it starts failing would the end
users want to enable the log messages. And tech support will tell him how to
do it too.
Mike McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Date: 11 Apr 2001 00:59:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Apr 2001 15:01:04 -0600, Craig Kelley allegedly wrote:
>>
>> append="console=null" at the bottom of the kernel settings in lilo.conf,
>> however it gets rid of only kernel messages I'm guessing. The PCI probes
>> and SCSI output are gone, but there is still quite a bit of output such as:
>>
>> Starting cron daemon [OK]
>>
>> Any way to get rid of that?
>
>Edit each script in /etc/init.d and after the shell bang, place this
>line:
>
>1>/dev/null 2>&1
That redirects all output, also error messages. In most cases it would
be usefull to have those displayed, so that the user will be aware of
any problems, and can then correct them.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: "TheMartian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epson Photo 890
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:01:02 GMT
Hi
Has anyone got first hand experience with printing from GIMP under Linux
to one of these new epson printers?
Gimp-Print 4.1 claims to support these things, just that that need to be
tested.
Thanks.
David
Sydney, Australia
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to find mkinitrd-2.9.1.src.rpm?
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:08:54 GMT
Tim J wrote:
>
> I am in the process of upgrading my rh7.0 kernel to v2.4. In the
> Changes document it suggests upgrading to version 2.9 and that I can
> download it at.
> ftp://rawhide.redhat.com/pub/rawhide/SRPMS/SRPMS/mkinitrd-2.9.1.src.rpm
>
> This directory could not be found. I looked around Redhat's site and
> could not find this rpm.
> Where can I find it and if it is not available do I need it to compile
> kernel 2.4?
Try this one.
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/SRPMS/SRPMS/mkinitrd-3.0.10-1.src.rpm
--
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From: Lucien Carrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:21:25 -0400
Bonsoir,
Le 10 Avr 2001 18:29:15 -0500, mrsmith a écrit :
> In every instance, upon booting, the OS drops back to run level 3 and
> produces and error. The error begans by saying that no module path is
> specified and it is using the default path, "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/".
> Then it indicates an unkown error loading module "dbe". And an error
> with the subsection "extmod". I have tried to specify the "ModulePath"
> and it says it is not a correct command. I have moved the offending
> modules into the default path and nothing is different.
I have the same config of your and I have (also...) the same result when
I tried to upgrade to XFree86 4.0.3 so I'd sticked with the 4.0.2 for
now.
I tried both "nv" and "nvidia" driver into de xf86config file but no
chance anymore...
Prochaine,
Lucien
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ManDrake 7.2 and Nvidia - I give up
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:26:49 +1000
I've had many different problems with nvidia cards, the worst of which is
that the drivers are as buggy as hell with bugs. If you like your data,
don't install nvidia's drivers.
If you must install them, however ...
1) Compile xfree86-4.0.3 yourself. If you use someone else's packages,
you're bound to have problems - if not right away, then definitely later (eg
when you go to compile a game)
2) Follow the instructions carefully. And make sure you look for ALL
instances of ALL files in ALL locations. My system has had many of these
files in multiple locations that weren't mentioned in the instructions.
3) Use xf86config to produce your config file. Then edit this to include the
dbe, glx and other stuff.
4) If it doesn't work, post in your XF86Config file, and maybe even some
error messages. That way, people can help you.
Dan
"mrsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have tried every possibly way, accept apparently the correct one, to
> get a Creative TNT2 card working with my Linux system. Here is what I
> have; Mandrake Linux 7.2 updated with the initial ManFreq release for
> KDE 2.1 and XFree86 4.0.2. From there, I have installed the XFree86
> 4.0.3 update on their site. This all works well.
>
> I have downloaded and tried both the rpm and .tar.gz versions of the
> Nvidia drivers from their site. I have installed each on fresh OS
> installs follow the instructions from Nvidia, and various other
> sources on the net. So far none have worked.
>
> I have manually removed the Mesa library files, and went as far as
> creating completely new XF86Config and XF86Config-4 files. Each having
> been editied with the "Load glx" command enabled and the driver
> reference changed from "nv" to "nvidia".
>
> In every instance, upon booting, the OS drops back to run level 3 and
> produces and error. The error begans by saying that no module path is
> specified and it is using the default path, "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/".
> Then it indicates an unkown error loading module "dbe". And an error
> with the subsection "extmod". I have tried to specify the "ModulePath"
> and it says it is not a correct command. I have moved the offending
> modules into the default path and nothing is different.
>
> I am stumped. I am new to this so don't know what else to try. I would
> appreciate advice from anyone who has successfully installed an Nvidia
> card. Thanks
>
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel / hardware problem
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:36:34 GMT
If you have pciutils installed, youcan use "lspci" to list the devices
and their IDs. As for the rest of your problem, I can't help you
because I don't have a joystick installed (yet).
Regards,
Mladen
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help needed with Linux software install
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:46:06 GMT
Make a linux start up floppy for your CD
d:
cd \dosutils
rawrite
..\images\boot.img
a:
pezdro wrote:
> my friend sent me an copy of the linux CD ( which I'm not sure if he
> ripped it properly) and I burned the iso. The cd contains the files I
> would need to install linux, but it won't autoboot. So I was told that I
> could just copy the files onto my comp and just tell the install program
> to check the hard disk. Linux installer finds the files but it won't
> contiune the install product. Instead it tells me its checking the cd-rom
> and renders me to a screen where I type things that have no effect. I am
> totally lost and need what ever kind of help there can be.
>
> my icq number is 23649206
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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