Linux-Setup Digest #53, Volume #21               Mon, 16 Apr 01 02:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: 486 help??!! (E J)
  $PATH (Zhao)
  32-bit disk cache? ("Stephen W. Hiemstra")
  Re: How to get rpm tool to load??? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Booting >1024 cylinders?? (Rod Smith)
  Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble. (Rod Smith)
  Change $PATH in Redhat 7.0 (Zhao)
  Re: how to let solaris8 and redhat share one harddisk (Akop Pogosian)
  RE: $PATH (Tiffany)
  Re: Change $PATH in Redhat 7.0 ("The Martian")
  RE: 486 help??!! (Tiffany)
  Linux Compatable Hardware ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  Re: seting up netscape and ... (John Beatty)
  Re: Re: Problem with dual boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: RedHat Booting... ;o( (Roger Atkinson)
  Re: Linux and Windows 2000 (Mark Wagnon)
  Re: Linux Compatable Hardware (David)
  fvwm2: new windows stick to my cursor? (Tony)

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 486 help??!!
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:12:48 GMT

You can try peanut linux or an ancient distro.  I don't know if you can make
an FTP install such as Redhat for
an old machine.
In the case of Redhat, you get bootnet.img and use the dos program rawrite to
write a network bootable
floppy and find an appropriate FTP site and do the installation.

Miguel wrote:

> [posted and mailed]
>
> well i have an old 486 with 8mb ram and a 4go Hd and i wanna know which is
> the best way to install linux. i dont have any cdrom drive but im on adsl.


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From: Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: $PATH
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:30:05 -0000

I've been getting 'Command not found' error.  How can I include my file 
directory into $PATH ( I tried to add it into /etc/bashrc and /home/<user 
account>/.bashrc, but it did not work)

Thanks you.

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From: "Stephen W. Hiemstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 32-bit disk cache?
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:46:08 -0400

I have Linux booting off of a second hard-drive that is a bit slow.
Earlier, I remember hearing that there is a way to activate 32-bit disk
caching (maybe not the right terminology) that will spend things up.  Can
anyone explain how this is done or point me to a reference?

I am dual-booting SuSE Linux 6.4 and WinMe on a Pentium class machine with
32MB RAM and lots of disk space.

Stephen




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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get rpm tool to load???
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:16:32 +0200

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, root wrote:

> Hi ,
>                I am using SuSe 6.3 Evaluation verison linux.
> By mistakenly, through yast tool , i removed rpm package..
> It complete removed the rpm binary from /bin directory.
> From next time onwards when i am trying to use yast tool
> to install or do some thing , its asking there is no rpm
> so abort it..
>
> Can any one help me in recovering from this problem...
> And how to install rpm package at this stage.......

Perhaps you can find a statically linked rpm binary on your cd, which
you could use to install the rpm rpm-package.

Or perhaps Suse has a rescue disk/mode which you could use to reinstall
rpm? Something like:

mkdir /root
mkdir /cd
mount /dev/root-device /root
mount /dev/cd-device /cd
rpm -ivh /cd/somewhere/rpm-whatever.rpm -r /root
umount /root

Rasmus

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Booting >1024 cylinders??
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:17:39 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am confused, can LILO boot from a partition past 1024? I have been
> told, yse/no/maybe? I have a Maxtor 40Gig and want to run both Windows
> 98 and Linux 2.4.0. No real problem with the two, done it a number of
> time in the past. Only I've never had a disk this big.

Maybe. You need both a recent version of LILO (I don't recall the
precise version number that added this feature, though) and a BIOS
released in the last few years. If you've got an old LILO or an older
BIOS, it won't work. You've also got to enable the feature in your
/etc/lilo.conf file by including a line that reads "lba32".

Even if you can't get this working, you can still boot in a situation
like that. You can create a small (5-20MB should be sufficient) /boot
partition that you put in the first 1024 cylinders of the drive, and be
sure to store your kernel there. You could make this the first partition
on the disk, for instance.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.beos,alt.os.linux,comp.sys.be.help
Subject: Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:24:26 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <9bdfqs$d45$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Groman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi.
> I have a tiny problem. I want to triple boot between 3 OSes installed
> on my PC: BeOS 5.0 Personal Edition, Win2000 Pro, and Redhat Linux 6.0(Yeah,
> I know, old,
> but I'll update it, as soon as I get some boot managing scheme working).
> 
> HD/Partitions:
> 
> HD1: 12 gig
>      Part1: 11 Gig: NTFS      <----------Where win2k lives
>      Part2: 1.1 Gig: BFS        <----------Where BeOS lives.
> 
> HD2: 2.1 Gig
>     Part1: 1.9 gig: ext2fs        <----------- Where linux lives
>     Part2: 0.2 gig: linuxswap  <----------- Swap space.
> 
> My attempts:
> 1)    Lilo: If installed on MBR of HD1, displays: "LI" and hangs.

This problem most frequently indicates a mis-match between the
cylinder/head/sector (CHS) geometry of your hard disk as interpreted by
the BIOS and as used in Linux. If you can boot Linux through LOADLIN or
some other means, try typing "fdisk -l /dev/hda" and "fdisk -l
/dev/hdb" (or use whatever your drive IDs are) and make note of the
number of cylinders, sectors, and heads. Then check the same values as
reported by your BIOS's CMOS setup utility. If they don't match, you'll
need to take steps to correct the matter. This will likely involve
completely deleting all the partitions on the affected drive, wiping out
the MBR ("dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1", or an equivalent
with the correct device filename will do the trick in Linux), creating
new partitions, and restoring everything.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Change $PATH in Redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:30:04 -0000

Hi,

I want to change the PATH variable at bootup. Using Redhat 7.0, I tried to 
add my "/u01/app/oracle/product/bin" to the PATH line 
in .bash_profile, .bashrc like PATH="/u01/app/oracle/product/bin:$PATH", 
none of them working...which file(s) should I edit to make the new $PATH 
take an effect at login.

Help!

Thank you.

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From: Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: how to let solaris8 and redhat share one harddisk
Date: 16 Apr 2001 03:30:23 GMT

In comp.unix.solaris Zhefu Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> who do you know how to let solaris8 and redhat share one harddisk

I once noticed that there is a free 1GB partition on my Linux PC at
home, so I one day I installed Solaris 7 on it. The install program
will create a Solaris disk label on that disk and the disk slices used
by it will all be contained within that partition.

Dual-booting was done easily with LILO. It was more complicated in my
case because the disk that Linux and Solaris were on was not disk that
the system boots from initially. However, if you have just one disk,
there will be no need to additional LILO tweaks.

-akop


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From: Tiffany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: $PATH
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:33:35 -0400

>===== Original Message From Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
>I've been getting 'Command not found' error.  How can I include my file
>directory into $PATH ( I tried to add it into /etc/bashrc and 
/home/<user>account>/.bashrc, but it did not work)

Try editing $HOME/.bash_profile (assuming you are using the bash shell) to 
include the lines:

PATH=$PATH:/path_to_your_directory
export PATH

Then logout and login.

Tiffany
(OUCH!  Those jeans are tight.)


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From: "The Martian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change $PATH in Redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:44:02 GMT

Not sure about RH7 but on my RH6.2 box to add to the system wide path I
edit the /etc/profile file add to the existing PATH line. Works for me.

for user specific its the .bash_profile file all the way, your new line
is right, you just need to add export PATH after setting the new path.

David

Sydney, Australia.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Zhao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to change the PATH variable at bootup. Using Redhat 7.0, I tried
> to add my "/u01/app/oracle/product/bin" to the PATH line in
> .bash_profile, .bashrc like PATH="/u01/app/oracle/product/bin:$PATH",
> none of them working...which file(s) should I edit to make the new $PATH
> take an effect at login.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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From: Tiffany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: 486 help??!!
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:44:33 -0400

>===== Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel) =====
>[posted and mailed]
>
>well i have an old 486 with 8mb ram and a 4go Hd and i wanna know which is
>the best way to install linux. i dont have any cdrom drive but im on adsl.

Download the disk set for Debian GNU/Linux and the MS/PC-DOS rawrite.exe 
utility.  Build the disk set and then insert the first disk into the floppy 
drive and away you go with the installation.  Once you have the basic system 
installed you can connect to the Internet and grab the apt utility to 
install 
the other packages you want while connected to the Internet.  If you need 
more 
instructions email me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Tiffany
:-)
Your personal lifeguard in the waters called GNU/Linux.


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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Compatable Hardware
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:20:17 -0400

I plan on building my own computer from scratch, and I want some advice on
part selection. Are there any sites where they offer speical rates and Linux
Hardware?




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From: John Beatty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: seting up netscape and ...
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:30:44 -0400

Riyaz Mansoor wrote:


> i noticed that n4.72 did not inherit the gnome properties i set. i'm
> guessing that's because netscape don't use it. i'm wondering if netscape6
> does? i'd also like to know how does netscape6 's performance compare to the
> 4.7x series.

I haven't used NS6 on Linux, but on Windows the newer releases of NS6 translate
pages a lot better then NS4 does.  In general, though, I've had better luck
with Mozilla than NS6.  Even though, it's still a beta, Mozilla 0.8 works better 
than a lot of NS4 versions did.  And Mozilla on Linux is far better than NS4 
(which was atrocious as far as I'm concerned).  Anyway, I would recommend
giving Mozilla a try (although you may want to use 0.8, as opposed to the
newest 0.8.1, until the next release in a few weeks).  

> when i did setup linux i chose to boot from floppy. now i'm getting to like
> my setup. how do i change the bootup to load from the harddisk?

Write a configuration file (/etc/lilo.conf).  The easiest way to do that is to
look at the one on your boot floppy and copy it.  Double check the lilo.conf 
man page to make sure you have it set up the way you want it.  Also, you'll 
need to refer to it to find out how to add an entry for any other os you may
be running. Then run /sbin/lilo and it will write itself to your MBR.  


Cheers!
John


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with dual boot
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:43:57 GMT

Dear dbianchi,

In your posting Re: Problem with dual boot from 12 Apr 2001 13:21:27
GMT you write:
Ok, you are right.
LILO is not resposible. I have replaced the CPU and motherboard. Have put
PIII 733 MHz CPU and a Mercury motherboard(which cost me bucks). But I have
one more problem. After installing SuSE 7.1 over Win98, my CDROM is 
inaccessible. /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/hdd. Any suggestions
Thanks
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > installed SuSE 7.1 from CD. Everything went off fine, I put LILO on MBR
> > and the next time I went to SuSE, after a few minutes the system crashed
> > and I found that my motherboard and CPU had to be replaced.
> 
> Well, I don't think you can blame LILO for this...
> Davide


 





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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:03:52 -0700
From: Roger Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat Booting... ;o(

Actually, I believe you want to use "mknod" from the rescue disk to create
the device special /dev/hddX. It's been a while since I have done this
(I.E.: had a need too :-)) but I'm very sure that once a I created the
device special block file, I was able to mount / fsck / fix my problems,
and all was well after that.

HTH  Roger A.

David Cutting wrote:
> 
> Dear all -
> 
> Sorry to bother you; but I have found a problem that my
> meagre knowledge and documentation searching can overcome...
> 
> I have a PII 400 with 384 Mb of RAM and 3 hard drives (1 SCSI
> and 2 IDE). For various reasons; it needs to be dual boot (must
> run certain ghastly windows apps) and because the original IDE drive's
> boot record is knackered - we installed Windows onto the SCSI to
> boot and had the IDE partitioned as D. I then added a second IDE
> drive and partitioned it to be 5 Gb Windows (E) drive and 15 Gb
> linux setup (100 Mb /boot, /usr, / etc).
> 
> RedHat installed fine - but LILO wouldn't let me write to the third
> drive (my new IDE). I could overcome this (in BIOS or even by
> re-witing the IDE channels - but even so - it doesn't
> see my SCSI drive as a bootable option - so I can't seem to use it.
> 
> I was booting under LOADLIN via a CONFIG.SYS menu but
> this is not ideal as Linux only seems to see 64 Mb of memory ;o(
> 
> I have tried a couple of downloadable bootloaders and they see
> my SCSI drive (for Windows) but won't let me boot any of my 'linux'
> partitions. Someone has mentioned to me IBM bootloader?? But I
> can't seem to find this anywhere. Does anyone know of a bootloader
> that will reckognise my SCSI drive for Windows boot and also
> my IDE Linux boot partition/record.
> 
> Another problem I've had in my ineptitude recently - I made a couple
> of changes to my rc.sysinit and now I can't even get to a tty, the
> filesystem doesn't mount rw and getty respawns too quick. I ran
> linux rescue from my 6.2 disk but I can't mount /dev/hddX as there
> are no hard drive records in /dev. I vaugly remember that I could use
> MAKEDEV to create them - but I can't install MAKEDEV as the
> rescue mode lacks rpm or even a compiler... I will eventually boot
> it diskless over NFS and mount like that but until recently this machine
> WAS the diskless server and as such it would take some serious
> time to configure it on another machine. Is there any way I can get
> a system on a floppy that will give me a shell and let me mount my
> hard drive partitions etc...?????
> 
> Any help in either of these problems would be GREATLY appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> David Cutting.

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From: Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows 2000
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:05:27 -0700

Just an update to help others in the same situation.

Apparently the instructions that I had posted from an earlier 
search weren't entirely correct. I was unable to accomplish my 
goal. Turning to another search, I discovered this site:

http://www.enterprisedt.com/publications/dual_boot.html

which details the whole procedure, and fixes the problem with the 
first 'dd' command I posted earlier. In minutes, I had a perfectly 
functioning system dual booting Linux with Win2k. 

Here are the steps that I used, borrowed from the author's page 
(and reformatted, because something bad happened during the copy 
and paste):

  1. From Linux, copy the Linux boot sector from /boot to a file
     usingt he dd command. In the below, replace /dev/hda3 with
     your boot partition's location 

     # dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 

  2. Copy bootsect.lnx onto a floppy disk.

     If  mcopy is available, this is easy:

     # mcopy /bootsect.lnx a: 
    
     If mcopy is not available (e.g. a minimal install of Linux)
     you'll need to mount the floppy drive and then copy:

     # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
     # cp /bootsect.lnx /mnt
     # umount /mnt

  3. Boot W2K, log in as Administrator and copy 
     bootsect.lnx from your floppy disk onto the root of your C:
     drive

  4. Edit C:\BOOT.INI and add the following line at the
     end:C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Linux"


Make sure you double check your partitions that your working with. 
I'd check the website for more instruction before taking my word on 
it though. I emailed the resulting file from step one to myself 
instead of using a floppy because I didn't have one.

Good Luck to all!
-- 
 ©¿©¬ Mark Wagnon
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Compatable Hardware
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:22:42 GMT

"" wrote:
> 
> I plan on building my own computer from scratch, and I want some advice on
> part selection. Are there any sites where they offer speical rates and Linux
> Hardware?


http://www.pricewatch.com

Not specifically for linux hardware.

Be sure to shop around. Just because you find the lowest price doesn't
mean it will cost you less in the end if you don't shop. The following
is personal knowledge and experience from getting components to build my
system online.

   When I went to purchase my UPS I found a place that had the lowest
price that I had found. I had done a lot of checking. As I started to
place my order I had it in my shopping cart and had proceeded to the
checkout where I checked to see what shipping would cost me. They posted
a shipping price of $114 US dollars which I thought was way to much. I
did some more checking and found that I could pay $12 dollars more for
the UPS and only pay $19 dollars for it to be shipped. You should be
able to see that by not accepting the first stores shipping price, I
ended up saving $83 dollars on the UPS alone. This was only one example
out of the list of components I chose for my system.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.162% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony)
Subject: fvwm2: new windows stick to my cursor?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:40:31 GMT

Every time I start a new window the edges of the upcoming window stick
to my cursor. This is very annoying, where in the fvwm2rc or ? can one
disable this default behavior?

I'd like to just maximize any new window.

By the way, how would one maximize on the command line? Say I was
starting netscape on the command line, could I say something like:

      netscape -maximize &


Thanks,

-Tony


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