Linux-Setup Digest #273, Volume #21 Mon, 21 May 01 05:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Prophet vid card and RedHat 6.2? ("LRW")
Xconfigurator alternative? ("LRW")
Apache Setup ("sang")
Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning) ("Peet Grobler")
Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning) ("Peet Grobler")
Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes ("grendel")
System hangs on Winbond Super-IO Detection (Jaideep Tibrewala)
Re: replace cd-rom with CD-R / can't find mount CD-R drive ("David Dorward")
Re: linux install help ("David Dorward")
Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98? (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
NTFS to FAT32 ("brock")
Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning) (Gerhard Roth)
Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98? (Alexander Martinez)
Re: Apache Setup (David Efflandt)
Re: linux 7.1 install "sup wit dat"? ("Poul Kornmod")
Re: Mandrake kppp dialup problem (David Efflandt)
Re: NTFS to FAT32 ("Eric")
Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98? ("Eric")
Re: replace cd-rom with CD-R / can't find mount CD-R drive (David Efflandt)
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From: "LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Prophet vid card and RedHat 6.2?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:11:16 GMT
Hi,
I have a Hercules Prophet II MX with 32MB mem.
It's not on the Xconfigurator list. Anyone know a compatable listing that
has the same server as the Prophet II?
I've tried a couple in custom setup, like SVGA and S3, and each one says
"server not found." Odd since I installed "everything." Do I need to compile
something?
Also, while on the subject, even if I select VGA just to get by, when it
comes to selecting the monitor, my Dell D1025TM is listed. I select it, but
the probe always says there's a problem and sends me back to the vertical
refresh rate, or even back to monitor selection. I've tried 50-60, 50-90,
50-100 (or something like that,) and it won't take any. Even if I choose
custom monitor and select one of the SVGA monitor options.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Liam
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From: "LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Xconfigurator alternative?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:13:51 GMT
I seem to remember there being a more useful GUI X-win setup than
Xconfigurator. Gives you more control over the refresh, and the mouse too if
I recall.
It's not xf86config, it was graphical.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Liam
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From: "sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache Setup
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:26:56 +0900
Hi,
I had setup Apache in LINUX7.1 seawolf.
I can access Apache server in LINUX server computer only.
>From this computer i can access WIN NT Apache Server from
other computer.
Ping is ok too.
What is wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:47:10 +0200
Thank you all for taking the time to respond.
Alexander Martinez wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello,
>
>perhaps I misunderstood you. I am not a native english speaker so I am
sometimes wrong.
>Peter & Dave, please accept my apologies if I said something offensive by
myself.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dave Ewart)
>>
>> On Fri, 18 May 2001 17:31:34 +0200, Alexander Martinez
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Hello Peter & Dave,
>> >
>> >there is no reason to be offensive, I just did what Peet asked for -
>> >telling _my_ opinion.
>>
>> I don't think anyone wrote anything offensive. The topic of
>> partitioning is very subjective and all I posted was a balanced argument
>> of ideas surrounding the issue.
>
>okay, partitioning is something that is worth of thinking. my actual
partition scheme i
>worked out after approximately 20 installs on different hardware
>
>> >> >>/ 100MB
>> >> >>/boot 10MB
>> >> >>/tmp 200 MB
>> >> >>/var 100MB
>> >> >>/home 150MB
>> >> >>/root 50MB
>> >> >>swap 128MB
>> >> >>/usr remaining space
>> >>
>> >> > [I said you'd get a different answer from every person!]
>> >>
>> >> Correct.
>> >
>> >for this reason I named it "my suggestion", not "Alex's Rule". this
>> >setup works just fine for _me_ (as I told earlier)
>>
>> Perhaps I should have added a smiley to my remark - "Everyone will give
>> you a different answer :-)"
>
>so I should have too -> Alex's Rule :-)))
>
>> >> > I am not disputing that the partitioning is suitable for you,
>> >> > Alexander, but everyone's needs are different.
>> >>
>> >> Correct.
>> >
>> >Have I told you anything different?
>>
>> No, this remark was not really aimed at _you_, it was aimed at the
>> original poster who was the one seeking advice.
>
>sorry, I misunderstood you totally.
>
>> >this is not correct, you forget about X or gcc and similar programs.
>> >For example, if I use stow to install tarballs it unpacks them under
>> >/tmp and then compiles them, which results in eating up a lot of
>> >diskspace.
>>
>> You are missing my point - just because /tmp is USED dosen't necessarily
>> mean that it should have a separate partition. And, the real point is
>> the fact that:
>>
>> If a /tmp partition is not suitable for ME, this validates my assertion
>> that "not everyone needs a /tmp partition" and, more generally,
>> "everyone needs a different setup" ...
>>
>> > ... [Snip]
>>
>> It was useful for you to post your partition scheme - it's of benefit
>> for those that have not partitioned systems before to see an example of
>> how it can be done. However, I believe that it is equally important to
>> understand the issues and reasons behind each scheme.
>
>I think thats exactly that what Peet asked for, because he has no idea of
partitioning
>yet.. so as I had when I started with Linux.
>
>It is always hard to plan how much space is used on any partition. one
example: you run
>a mysql server and the database gets bigger and bigger, almost exceeding
all sizes you
>thought to be possible.. finally you have to reinstall or repartition or
move to another
>partition....
>
>As said my setup is also used in computer science lab at my local
university (because I
>administer some machines there). They are mainly used for surfing,
programming and linux
>hacking. It works just fine there and therefore I adopted it on my home
system. Till now
>I didn't run out of diskspace on any partition.
>
>But you're right: it would help to know what the specific needs of Peet
are.
>
>if he just wants to surf, then perhaps two small /var, /tmp and a large /
partition
>would be enough.
>
>I think it is a good idea to keep /tmp and /var separate. if something goes
wrong, it is
>mostly in /var or /tmp. I had to reinstall several times because something
went wrong in
>/tmp or /var (entire partitions died), which at that time were on the root
filesystem
>(bad idea, but I was new to Linux at that time). and this is annoying if
you are running
>a mysql server for your science lab...
>
>I hope I made myself clear now. :-))) I am just kiding when I get serious.
>
>Greetings
>Alex
>
>> Really, no offense meant! :-)
>
>> Dave.
>
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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:52:27 +0200
What volume manager should I use?
Is it possible to re-partition once already installed? Or would I have to
make a full backup, then restore to the split partitions? (This is possible,
will waste about 2 CD's, thinking I'd rather go the hard way...)
Gerhard Roth wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Peet Grobler wrote:
>
>> etc. What is the benefits of doing it like this? I mean, if one partition
>> runs out of space, it's hell to get it fixed. Why not just stuff
everything
>> on one partition, voila, no space problems?
>
>
>Many people already mentioned the advantages keeping things in different
>partitions. But now let's look at it the other way round: if avoiding space
>problems with a single partition is it's only advantage, then it has no
>advantage at all. You can avoid space problems with multiple partitions,
too,
>by using a volume manager.
>
>Gerhard
>
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From: "grendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:35:01 GMT
Thanks for the tip. I was going back into YAST2 and allowing it to detect
the NIC again. This would reinitialize it and get the DNS again. However
what's strange is that I still had a network connection. Just the DNS would
be lost.
"Bill Runge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> grendel wrote:
> >
> > I think the network card powers down after awhile and that's what's
> > happening. Could this cause the loss of DNS settings. (meaning it
changed
> > resolv.conf) This stopped working while using this and sometimes it
works in
> > the GUI so it's not a run level issue. All I can think is a lower down
> > issue. This happens on the same machine (network card powers down) if I
> > leave it alone for awhile.
> >
> > "Dean Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Hi!,
> > >
> > > > I do not run a DHCP server. I am a client not a server. I can not
put in
> > > > the server in debug mode since it's sitting at my ISP.
> > >
> > > But of course you could put your dhcp client into debug mode couldn't
you
> > ?
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > > Dean Thompson
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> >
+____________________________+____________________________________________+
> > > | Dean Thompson | E-mail -
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> > |
> > > | Bach. Computing (Hons) | ICQ - 45191180
> > |
> > > | PhD Student | Office - <Off-Campus>
> > |
> > > | School Comp.Sci & Soft.Eng | Phone - +61 3 9903 2787 (Gen. Office)
> > |
> > > | MONASH (Caulfield Campus) | Fax - +61 3 9903 1077
> > |
> > > | Melbourne, Australia |
> > |
> > >
> >
+----------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
> I believe you've found your problem. My RH 7.1 system does this after I
> power down the modem. I personally like the feature for security reasons
> as this NIC is connected to my DSL modem. To restart the connection all
> that is necessary is to power up the modem (allowing it time to train)
> and issue the command: ifconfig ethx up . If I want to verify the
> connection: ifconfig .
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From: Jaideep Tibrewala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System hangs on Winbond Super-IO Detection
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:54:02 -0500
Hello
I have RH7.1, zip parallel port drive, and Canan printer attached to the
zip drive.
If I have the lprd service to be activated at boot time, my system will
start LPRD and then output
Winbond Super-IO detection, now testing ports 3F0,370,250,4E,2E
on the screen and then just hangs. I have to cold boot it.
Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this? Please cc. to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you
Jaideep
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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replace cd-rom with CD-R / can't find mount CD-R drive
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:43:50 +0100
It seems that on Mon, 21 May 2001 00:39:37 +0100, someone claiming to be
"John Heuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:
> Hi,
> Recently I relpaced my cd-rom with a CD-R drive to my Linux computer
> system. To make the computer see the new CD-R drive I added
> ‘hdc=ide-scsi’. I also added the lines ‘/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi’ and
> /sbin/modprobe sg’ to my rc.local file. At bootup is now detected as
> SCSI 0.0.0, which I think makes it /dev/sda. So far so good.
More likely /dev/scd0, although on my system the IDE name continues to
work.
--
David Dorward http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux install help
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:47:13 +0100
It seems that on Sat, 19 May 2001 21:58:01 +0100, someone claiming to be
"nick nack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:
> hello.
> i have linux redhat 6 ( i know its old! ) and i can't install it. maybe
Its very very old with lots of security problems. There have been a few
years of development and newer version are much friendlyer. Try Red Hat
7.1 or Mandrake 8.0.
> whan i tring to hit "next" i get the message : "no root partition - you
> must assign a root (/) partition to a kinux native partition (ext2) for
> the install to proceed".
Each partition should have an option to set the mount point. One of them
need to be "/", I would also set up others to be "/boot" (10 MB) and
"/home" (however much you need to store personal files for all users).
--
David Dorward http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
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From: Ahmad Al-rasheedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:34:08 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Myriam Abramson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can I install Lilo on the MBR with windows 98? I've read about not
> doing that with Windows NT but is it Okay with Windows 98?
>
> Thanks.
I have the above on my PC. Just make sure you install Windogz first then
Linux.
--
Ahmad Al-rasheedan
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From: "brock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NTFS to FAT32
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 01:43:41 -0700
been working on my first install, want to dual boot with win2k on NTFS
partition. i've read that this won't work, and it didn't. i'd like to
convert from NTFS to FAT32 without nuking my win2k install, and preferably
without buying partition magic. does anyone know of a good
freeware/shareware option for this? or any other ideas?
thanks!
-paul
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From: Gerhard Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why oh why (disk partitioning)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:33:21 +0200
Hello Peet,
Peet Grobler wrote:
> What volume manager should I use?
in case of Linux I know of two Volume Managers:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/evms/
http://www.sistina.com/lvm/
... but I assume this list is incomplete.
>
> Is it possible to re-partition once already installed? Or would I have to
> make a full backup, then restore to the split partitions? (This is possible,
> will waste about 2 CD's, thinking I'd rather go the hard way...)
They all support re-sizing partitions on a running system, i.e. without
reboot or making a backup (although making a backup is always a *good idea*).
The only pit-fall here is: you have to use a filesystem that supports dynamic
resizing, too. I don't think ext2fs does this, but ReiserFS does.
Gerhard
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From: Alexander Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:52:02 +0200
Hello,
Yes, it works just fine. I've seen that it works with NT, too. Not that
I am using any Windoze crap anymore.
Greetings
Alex
Myriam Abramson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can I install Lilo on the MBR with windows 98? I've read about not
> doing that with Windows NT but is it Okay with Windows 98?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> myriam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Apache Setup
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:49:18 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 21 May 2001 13:26:56 +0900, sang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had setup Apache in LINUX7.1 seawolf.
>
> I can access Apache server in LINUX server computer only.
> From this computer i can access WIN NT Apache Server from
> other computer.
>
> Ping is ok too.
>
> What is wrong?
The most common mistake I see is using an incomplete URL (missing trailing
slash when not referencing a specific filename). Apache tries to correct
the mistake by attempting to redirect to the corrected URL. However, by
default it uses what it thinks is its server name (your hostname if
ServerName is not set). So the first question is, can the client find the
server by its hostname?
You can get around this. See UseCanonicalName in apache docs.
--
David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Poul Kornmod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux 7.1 install "sup wit dat"?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:59:29 +0200
Reply-To: "Poul Kornmod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Try fdisk your disk(s) before installation! Just to have a clean environment
before installation!
Poul Kornmod
"gman1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here is what happens when I try to install or update red hat 7.1:
>
> when i get to the "moving install image to hard drive" in the
> installation
> I get the error: "an error occured, probably because you don't have
> enough disk space"
>
> I have:
> /boot - 64 megs
> {swap}- 256 megs
> / - 2.9 gigs(but it doesn't seem to matter how big I make "root")
>
> When I do finally get the install to start copying the files - I get an
> anaconda crash?
>
> ps. I have no problems with any other version of red hat including
> 7.0....
>
> Thanks to all in advance!!!!
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Mandrake kppp dialup problem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:59:35 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 May 2001 21:08:26 -0700, Mike Lapenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am having difficulty etsbalishing connection with my ISP.
> Here is my environment:
> - Mandrake 7.2, external 56K USR modem
> - I am using PAP authentication and kppp to dial
> - Dynamic IP address (this is what my ISP assigns)
> - Gateway is 'default gateway'
> - Assign the default route to this gateway is ON
> - Query Modem appears to run successfully
> (I can dial the same ISP through windows fine!)
> Here is what I've tried:
> - I can dial and I hear the ISP modem accepting connection.
> - The DNS entries and user/password appear correct.
> - In the log window, I see
> ATZ0ATM1L10ADDT4166400281
> - Then in the status line 'Expecting: CONNECT'
> - After connection "apparently" established,
> I get about 50 garbage chars displayed and then kppp eventually hangs up
>
> If anyone has experience with this, I would like to hear from you.
> I don't mind manually configuring if I can be assured I am going to be successful :)
> Thank you,
> Mike
Are you in a location where you have to dial the area code without a 1
prefix?
It could be an IRQ problem. Is the modem ISA (hard jumpered), PnP capable
or PCI? Even if a PnP capable modem is hard jumpered, I have had Windows
change the settings it uses. You might need to use isapnptools, create
/etc/isapnp.conf using pnpdump and edit that for port and irq.
--
David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTFS to FAT32
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:01:32 +0200
> been working on my first install, want to dual boot with win2k on NTFS
> partition. i've read that this won't work, and it didn't. i'd like to
It will work. You made another mistake.
converting to FAT32 will therefor not solve it.
Tell us what failed and how it failed (and what you tried), then we
may be able to help you out.
Eric
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo on MBR with Windows 98?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:04:11 +0200
> Can I install Lilo on the MBR with windows 98? I've read about not
> doing that with Windows NT but is it Okay with Windows 98?
It will work, also with NT.
You should keep a linux bootdisk at hand though, as windows might
destroy your MBR, leaving you with no bootoption. A bootfloppy
will be the easiest way to solve those problems.
(PS. Lilo usually doesn't *need* to be in the MBR)
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: replace cd-rom with CD-R / can't find mount CD-R drive
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:04:35 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 21 May 2001 06:43:50 +0100, David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems that on Mon, 21 May 2001 00:39:37 +0100, someone claiming to be
> "John Heuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:
>
>> Hi,
>> Recently I relpaced my cd-rom with a CD-R drive to my Linux computer
>> system. To make the computer see the new CD-R drive I added
>> ‘hdc=ide-scsi’. I also added the lines ‘/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi’ and
>> /sbin/modprobe sg’ to my rc.local file. At bootup is now detected as
>> SCSI 0.0.0, which I think makes it /dev/sda. So far so good.
>
> More likely /dev/scd0, although on my system the IDE name continues to
> work.
That would be correct if boot messages show it was assigned to sr0. And
you would most likely record to /dev/sg0 (or 0,0,0) (but don't try to
mount that).
--
David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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