Hi
I am new to this list (subscribed yesterday) and got your messages at first. I am not
in the discussion, but I read the suggestion about temperature tolerance between AMD
chips and Intels, and I think I could add some information.
AMD and Cyrix optimize(d) there chips to get the same "speed" as the Intels; AMDs and
Cyrix' P133+ or P166+ run with 100/133 MHz and are compared to Intels P166 (very old
example, but will do).
AMD and Cyrix optimized those chips and still do (except AMDs Athlon, I think) by
building more transistors on the same space as Intel does. This means that chips have
less "transport ways lengths" inside, but they will get hotter as a fact of higher
density.
Often you can hear of overclocking Intels by 33MHz or 50MHz (or even more with the
Celerons) but you don't hear anything about AMDs and Cyrix' that way, which is a
result of the low temperature range the work within.
Just an additional information - nothing which needs to be discussed (except I am
wrong).
Dietmar
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> > as well as "case-MB" temp. I mounted the unit on one of the "drive slot
> > covers" so it looks like it's part of the PC.
> > That allows me to move the temp probe around from time to time to see if
> > anything is running hot.
>
> I think the Kyrotech boxes have something like that also. The only area
> that has a lull in airflow is between the CPU and AGP slot. I honestly
> wish the AGP port was on the bottom of the motherboard so I could stick
> my slot fan where the G200 is right now. Leaving the case off is not an option
> for me because I have 7 rather active, to say the least, cats.
>
> Like my DEC Multia, it makes a nice little spaceheater. Apologies for going off
> topic but I think people will find this humerous. We had a LAN party in the
> basement of my house with about 15 to 20 computers (space was tight). This
> was in the middle of winter in Michigan (much like the winters in Finland) and
> we had to turn off the heater and open a few windows upstairs from all the
> heat. :)
>
> I have thermal pasted the BX chip now and it hasn't had much effect but this
> box has been really stable. [knock on thin-metal case]
>
> > I recently changed the temp to 50C and haven't had any instability.
>
> Intel's chips seem to take heat better than AMD and/or Cyrix chips. I think the
> tolerances are a bit higher. I've thought about getting the V3 3500 because
> that would eliminate the G200/2 V2's/Hauppauge. I'd just have the V3, SB Live
> and my Tulip card. Much less heat.
>
> > It was easy. Just read August's issue of LINUX Journal on IP masquerade.
> > There's also lots of good howtos on the subject.
>
> I've played with it on a friend's multia and the @Home network people are
> clueless in general. Unfortunately the RJ45 port on that board is toast,
> otherwise it would be working, with 99% of my setup code for the modem setup
> here.
>
> > This will definitely punish your SMP system.
>
> I do that under linux and nt.. but for a barnburner of a test I do:
> 3 concurrent kernel compiles
> RC5DES running on both CPUs
> SETI on both CPUs
> hdparm -Tt in a loop
>
> If something is going to fail, it will then. ;-)
> SETI tends to rob RC5DES but i haven't dinked with nice values.
>
> Thanks for the info.
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