On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote:
>
> let me get this straight, you want to keep the dual ppro system but
> put it on a newer motherboard? this sounds like a first class way to
> waste money. the dual ppro should still be a nice system (i still
> enjoy my single and quad ppro boxen -- they're all i've got). if you
> want to spend money, buy more ram. that seems to help me more than
> anything else. 256MB shouldn't be too expensive these days.
>
Well, there's two main reasons I want to upgrade
motherboards: 1) I want AGP video. I'd LIKE to play games
under Linux (Q3, etc.) 2) My current dual-PPro setup is not
working as an SMP machine. Whenever I try to boot to SMP,
UNLESS I DISABLE APIC, it locks solid while scanning the
IDE bus. This happens with either the stock Mandrake 6.0
SMP kernel or a hand-compiled SMP kernel. No problems
running with a uni-processor kernel. Besides, I already
have the adapter boards!
>
> if you are *really* *really* *really* itching to get something new,
> just get a shiny new amd athlon. the single athlon will have at least
> three times the raw megahertz of one of your ppro, probably be
> cheaper, and blow the doors off the dual ppro on even if they're
> hosted on a newer mobo. i mean, i love my ppros but you've got to
> know when it's time to retire them.
>
No thanks. I want SMP.
> > I'd also like one with on-board SCSI (UW, of course <G>)
>
> on-board parts tend to suck. it's bad in windows and worse with
> linux. avoid them if at all possible. get as generic as you can.
>
Well, If it's an Adaptec chipset, it's pretty good. I'm
getting what I think is good advice from a computer tech
friend who's also heavily into Linux.
>
> unless you are really short of pci slots^1 and the uw scsi mobo
> upgrade costs less than $60, you may as well get a symbios 8751sp or
> tekram dc-390f card. i think the adaptec mobo part is stable (i
> haven't seen any posts to linux-kernel about it in months) but it has
> historically been problematic.
>
I don't know Symbios or Tekram. I know Advansys and
Adaptec. I just want to make sure what I get is GOOD
hardware and a good SCSI card AIN'T CHEAP! I've got an
Advansys Ultra SCSI card, but I would like to get UW/U2W.
>
> what if you want to get u2w/lvd? why not get
>a tekram dc-390u2w at > $140 right now?
>
Because my tech friends haven't recommended Tekram, and
I've never heard of 'em.
>
> argh. *never* get on-board audio or video. don't even
> think about it in passing.
>
Agreed!
>
> buy a tulip card for $8-15 (depending on if you want 10 or 100 base).
>
I've got one. Nice Tulip based 10 mbit card. :-)
>
> [1] are there any mobos (not costing an arm and a leg)
> out there > sporting a reasonable number of pci slots -- i
> want at least 6, > preferably 8.
>
Yup. Along with AGP.
So, what motherboard(s) WOULD you recommend for SMP (slot1
boards, that is.)
John
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