Hello,

I wanted to report on my experience with the Supermicro PIIIDME.

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Abstract : running 2 PIII800E with 1Gb on the the Supermicro PIIIDME I
bought proved unstable when making compilations or ssh remote connections
on X, from kernel 2.2.14 to kernel 2.4.0-test3 ; although the latter
solved some of the stability problems, there were segfaults appearing.
Certainly the MTH that has problems with SDRAM (and not only ECC sdram).
I changed for the Supermicro P6DBE which, with the same hardware, is
stable for me.
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I have 2 PIII800E and 4 modules of 256Mb Non-ECC PC100 SDRAM from
Venturatech.

Well, I bought the PIIIDME in the beginning of June, and had many problems
with it, notably a short circuit that wouldn't let me boot the computer. I
use the Supermicro SC-760 case. So I had to remove some of the metal clips
I had put on the chassis.

I then installed SUSE 6.4, with reiserfs support.

But then I had random problems with some IRQ vectors arriving in the CPU
that blocked it, and had some SCSI resets that blocked the computer too,
and some conflicts between the UDMA setting and the SCSI.

I sent a mail here, and many people responded (thank you all !), which
made me check many things (notably the SCSI termination), and upgrade to
kernel 2.4.0-test3 with reiserfs 3.6.10 patch.

It then seemed to work well : no more SCSI resets or IRQ vectors
randomly blocking the CPU, or UDMA problems. But when compiling the 2.4
kernel, I had had some random segfaults. So I was suspicious.

I ran math programs (fourier transforms of images), that took the whole
1Gb memory and even swapdisk, and it looked stable.

I then tried to change some settings in the kernel, and had to recompile
it, which unleashed segfaults ! I went to the sig11 webpage
http://www.BitWizard.nl/sig11/, and found a test that consisted of making
multiple kernel compiles and checking for differences in the output. Well,
the compilations failed after some random time, even rebooting my computer
sometimes !

I also found Doug Ledford's page very useful :
http://people.redhat.com/dledford/

I also devised another very good test for the segfault : I ran an ssh
remote connection to a server, from which I launched netscape, and after
playing around with netscape, I inevitably had a segfault, or a total
blockage of the computer.

My own programs also segfaulted when compiled. Even gnorpm segfaulted !

So, a small program like ssh, using a small part of memory, can put the
i840 on its knees, whereas a program that fills the memory and computes
stuff on it might not. Funny.

I then changed many settings in the bios, but the segfaults were always
there. Also removed all the cards, swapped them, etc. All very depressing.

I then replaced the memory with 2 modules of 64 Mb, and it worked well, no
segfaults. I tested the 1Gb on another computer, no segfaults (these tests
were described in the very useful sig11 page).

Of course, I looked up everything I could find on the web concerning the
PIIIDME, and found some benchmarks that proved its instability even with
SDRAM non-ecc. See http://www.2cpu.com for references.

I then decided to change the board. I bought a P6DBE Rev 3.0, that
supports the PIII800E.

And there was light.

That P6DBE is rock stable with my 1Gb, and 2 PIIIDME 800 under kernel
2.4.0-test3 with reiserfs 3.6.10 patch and my 120 Gb of disk. No
compilation problem, no segfault, happiness !


That's all, I hope it proves useful to someone !

Cheers,

Yann Le Du

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