On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:13:34AM +0200, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:46:27AM +0300, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Simos Xenitellis <
> > simos.li...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > The Linux Foundation and Linux Gizmos are running (also) this year a
> > > survey on small-board computers,
> > > 1.
> > > http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/831550-survey-best-linux-hacker-sbcs-for-under-200
> > > 2.
> > > http://linuxgizmos.com/rate-these-sub-200dollar-hacker-sbcs-win-one-of-20/
> > >
> > > This year they include 54 SBCs, out of which 12 are based on Allwinner
> > > SoCs,
> > > a. Two from Olimex
> > > b. One from SinoVoip
> > > c. One from LeMaker
> > > d. Three from CubieTech
> > > e. Three from LinkSprite
> > > f. Two from Shenzhen Xunlong Software
> > >
> > > The result of the survey is to produce a Top 10 list based on popularity.
> > > The purpose of the survey appears to be to gauge interest in open designs
> > > of boards and get manufacturers to work towards that direction.
> > >
> > > Here are the guidelines for the inclusion of a new board to the list,
> > >
> > > http://linuxgizmos.com/rate-your-favorite-open-single-board-computers/#open-sbc-guidelines
> > >
> > > If a company is producing developer boards and satisfy the requirements
> > > for inclusion, they can provide five boards to the Linux Foundation so 
> > > that
> > > they are given away to those that took the survey. At this survey, there
> > > are four different boards to be given away and none has an Allwinner SoC.
> > >
> > > Here is the survey,
> > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2015SBCS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > The 2015 Hacker SBC Survey has ended and here are the results,
> > http://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-stays-sky-high-in-2015-hacker-sbc-survey/
> > 
> > Specifically,
> > 
> > 1. The survey had a special feature where you picked three SBCs depending
> > on how favorite they were to you.
> > Then, it would triple the votes for Choice #1, double the votes for Choice
> > #2 and extract the results.
> > Obviously, such a method favors what has been put as Choice #1, the most
> > favorite.
> > 
> > 2. At positions #1 and #3, the Raspberry Pi 2 and Raspberry Pi
> > respectively. Yep, the single core Raspberry Pi got third place.
> > 3. At position #2 was the BeagleBone Black.
> > 
> > 4. In the top ten, there were three ODROID SBCs. ODROID is doing a great
> > job in promoting their boards.
> > They have a great page showcasing what you can do with their boards (such
> > as
> > http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433),
> > they have a monthly magazine at http://magazine.odroid.com/ and their forum
> > is very active.
> > 
> > 5. Out of the 53 Small Board Computers in the competition, there were no
> > Allwinner boards this year in the top Ten.
> > 6. An easy comparison of the specs for the Top Ten is at
> > http://files.linuxgizmos.com/2015-hacker-sbc-survey-top-10-sbc-specs-comparison.jpg
> > It is interesting to notice that several Mali and PowerVR GPUs make it to
> > the top ten.
> > 
> > 7. The Raspberry Pis have the Videocode IV GPU. When the first RPi board
> > was released, it did not have a free driver for the GPU.
> > Two years later, Broadcom released some source and documentation which were
> > not sufficient.
> > The turning point was in June 2014 when Eric Anholt was employed by
> > Broadcom to write a free driver for VC4,
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore#Linux_support
> > 
> > 8. There were three Cubieboard models which got 357 points
> > and two OLinuXino models that got 195 points.
> > 9. In the 2014 SBC Survey, the Banana Pi got the fifth place.
> > This year, the companies (LeMaker, SinoVoip) that made the Banana Pi
> > decided to split, creating their separate products.
> > The SinoVoip board got 14th place, the LeMaker got the 16th place.
> > 10. The Orange Pi was quite low in the ranking (too new entrant for the
> > survey).
> > 
> > 11. Among the buying criteria, the highest was "Open source software
> > support" (sic).
> > Next came the "Community ecosystem".
> > I think these two are critical for the success of an SBC, and companies
> > that make SBCs,
> > should make effort to create such communities.
> > 
> > Simos
> 
> Amazing how you left the following snippet out:
> 
> "One processor trend did seem clear, however, judging both from the 
> selections and reader comments. The open source community appears to be 
> increasingly frustrated with Allwinner’s Linux support. While three 
> Allwinner based boards made last year’s top 10, there are none this 
> year. After the 11th Place Cubieboard4, with its octacore Allwinner A80, 
> the next Allwinner board on the list is the A31-based Banana Pi M2 at 
> number 14."
> 
> People would think that that is the most relevant statement in that 
> whole survey, but not a hint of it can be seen in your email.
> 
> Stop trying to distort the truth.
> 
> Similarly, i cannot find any mention of your point 7 in that article.
> 
> But thanks for reminding me that that would not have happened if it was 
> not for the fact that i did lima, and that i "corrected" the Raspberry 
> Pi Foundations big but ultimately statement late 2012.

That would be "ultimately false".

Luc Verhaegen.

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