On Friday 23 February 2007 5:05 pm, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Greg KH wrote:

> > I have heard rumors that both Intel and mvista are starting to dig up
> > the old patches and want to get this stuff all sorted out and into the
> > main kernel tree.  Hopefully something comes of it...

Certainly I'd anticipate much more email.  Previous discussions have been
inconclusive, IMO basically because they were too much in the category
of "solution in search of problem".  Also, ISTR they didn't even start
to get near device-specific power management... but, maybe you're not
thinking about the patches I'm recalling!


> My crystal ball is looking particularly cloudy today.  Eventually 
> something will have to be done, but will it be done independently by each 
> subsystem?  Or will there be a centralized PM core API with a 
> subsystem-specific hook?  I have no idea.

If I were to bet, I'd say per-subsystem approaches will work better
than any Grand Unified/Centralized Scheme.  Per-driver approaches will
also be needed.


> So it comes down to the same question: Should I submit this USB-only 
> facility for inclusion now, with the understanding that it may need to be 
> changed later?

I'd say submit it, but with a clear statement about how changeable the
interface is.  Such a statement would be a kind of new ground for Linux,
which is needed ... some folk take the wrong lesson about stability of
kernel interfaces, and want all interfaces to be stable.  That's not a
realistic expectation (IMO) in cases where some experimentation is needed
to reach the eventual answer.  But it _is_ realistic to expect that if
an interface isn't fully cooked, it will be declared as such ... so that
userspace developers will at least know they need to communicate with the
kernel developers if they plan to make heavy use of that interface.

- Dave


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