o I've found the answer to my original question (see the "Subject:"
  line).  It's "2.4.10" ... sort of.

o After much hacking, I've got:

  o 2.4.10 with my hacked version of se401.c version 0.23 "p1"
  o `modprobe se401` (did by hand before plugging Kensington)
  o `modprobe pwc` (hotplugging doesn't install when Philips plugged in)
  o `insmod -f pwcx-i386` (from usb-pwcx-8.2.tar.gz)
  o uhci (`rmmod usb-uhci ; modprobe uhci`)

o This works.  I'm not sure what in the order of operations (modules,
  hardware plugging) is important.  I'll experiment booting with
  everything plugged in.

o Remaining problems are that plugging in the Philips gives hundreds
  of errors like:

  kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
  kernel: usbdevfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed dev 5 rqt 128 rq 6 len 486
ret -110

o Also got some messages when starting to use the Philips from user
  software:

  freddy kernel: pwc Dumping frame 24.
  freddy kernel: pwc Dumping frame 25.
  ...
  freddy kernel: pwc Dumping frame 44.
  freddy kernel: pwc Dumping frame 45 (last message).

o And, occasionally:

  kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

  (I've *always* gotten these, and posted about it in the past.)


o Where to go from here?  If this system is stable, and the
  maintainers aren't interested, I'll stop now.  I would like to help
  find out why 2.4.10 works and 2.4.19-pre10 doesn't, if only so the
  next packaged distro I buy (2.4.xxx or 2.6) works for me.

o But I'm not going to do a binary search algorithm between approx.
  delta=10 kernel versions (at over an hour each to
  download/build/boot/test)  unless I get an indication that someone's
  interested in the results.  Or preferably some hints along the lines
  of "there were big changes to USB in 2.4.16, so try there first".

o Suggestions (other than "Go to h***" or "F*** off") welcome.


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