David,

I will provide feedback if I can.  You may need to help
me get things in a testable state.  I'm not a developer,
but maybe that can be a good thing.  I'm probably more
like your target audience.

I haven't provided feedback up 'til now because I have been
focused on ORB drive testing.  Plus, I thought you were mostly
looking for technical feedback from the rest of the USB
development team.

Let me know what I can do to help.  If you can provide two
sets of patches for your alternate implementations that I 
can download from somewhere (or e-mail them to me), that
would help.

I'll be in Washington D.C. for the National Spelling Bee this
next week (my wife is on the Word List Committee) and since
I am on childcare duty part of the time, my availability
will be sporadic until the first Friday in June.

BTW:  Speaking as a user, I am greatly anticipating seeing
your work come to fruition!  I think it's really essential
stuff.

Thanks,
        Miles


On Fri, 26 May 2000, David Brownell wrote:

> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:47:17 +0100
> From: David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Johannes Erdfelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Dunlap, Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [linux-usb] [exp. patch] userspace driver binding (and
>     follow ingpatches)
> 
> > > Johannes's devfs patches for USB have been especially difficult
> > > for me to decide and no doubt I have taken a long time on it.
> > > I really couldn't decide.
> > >
> > > Johannes and David Brownell had some good discussion and some good
> > > progress with JE's patch, and my thanks to David Brownell for
> > > experimenting with this patch.
> >
> > David was the only person to give me feedback. Thanks David. I appreciate
> > it.
> 
> For the record, despite all the discussion about wanting a USB Daemon
> to autoload drivers, I've gotten no feedback about the two different
> implementations I provided ... or, more significantly, the shell scripts
> that they share to handle policies associated with driver loading and
> subsequent configuration.
> 
> If folk are serious about dynamically loading USB modules, I'd expect
> to see some more discussion on standards for such administrative policies.
> 
> My tentative conclusion is that not many people have gotten beyond the "yay,
> my device works!!" stage to the "Wow, 2.4 does USB Plug'n'Play !!" stage.
> 
> That's a matter of time of course, but I'll encourage more folk to put
> that higher on their priority lists ...
> 
> 
> > I'll work on splitting out the unrelated features of my previous patches
> > and send them to Randy and the list ASAP. These are unrelated to anything
> > with devfs. I expect this will be sent today.
> 
> Good.  I'd pointed out to Randy that I wanted to see two of them
> (the ioctl to expose driver-to-interface binding, and seeing all
> the device and config descriptors) in 2.4 regardless.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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