Yes, 
the "advanced user interface" that they refer to is probably just a
reference to XML or suchlike in which case they have not even had a look
at Mozilla and if the site doesn't work with it then they are not making
any effort at w3 compliance.

If they are talking about using vbscript instead of javascript then they
have no claim whatsoever to any standards compliance.


On Sat, 2002-09-07 at 11:09, Martin Baehr wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 05:45:25PM +1200, Nick Elder wrote:
> > >TheGooey is built/runs on Linux, Apache and PHP. However when we started 
> > >developing only IE5.5 supported the advanced user interface features we had 
> > >in theGooey. We are waiting for v7.0 of Netscape and Mozilla is now just 
> > >about up to spec, however that  requires a major rewrite that we will do for 
> > >V2.0 of theGooey.
> > Well fellow CLUG list members, I am left confused.  Does Apache or PHP have a 
> > 'advanced user interface' that blocks linux browsers?  (BTW I am currently 
> > running 'drake 8.2)
> 
> since nobody answered your real question,
> i'd like to help out with an explanation:
> (i hope this is understandable, if not, don't hesitate to ask)
> 
> a server provides services to a client.
> in case of a webserver this is data, usually in html format.
> the content of this data is unrelated to the server itself.
> you can serve html, images, mp3s, pdf, 
> anything you like, even word documents
> the server does not care.
> 
> it is up to the client to interpret the data.
> 
> the 'advanced user interface' that theGooey was working on,
> is not an interface for apache or php.
> it is an interface for the client,
> served by apache and created through php.
> for the server that also is just data.
> they could have been serving the same data 
> from IIS or roxen or any other webserver.
> 
> if you only have a text terminal, and the server sends you images
> you will ask: what is that gibberish, it doesn't work in my browser.
> you ask the webmasters why they send you images, and they will answer:
> to appreciate our nice graphical design you will need a graphical browser
> lynx does not cut it.
> 
> so there are different browsers with different capabilities.
> what happened here is, that theGooey only looked at a specific
> subset of browsers to interface with.
> just as a graphic designer will dismiss lynx as it is unable to show
> his nice graphics, theGooey dismissed netscape because it lacked
> features they thought would be needed to make their interface work.
> 
> i am trying to give a technical explanation, i am not defending theGooey.
> so please hold back with any comments on the stupidity of only supporting IE.
> they are off topic.
> 
> greetings, martin.
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