Agreed, look in the obvious places before you ask. I know of someone on
this list that posted a question recently. He told me at the last
meeting that he hadn't yet looked anywhere for the answer as he was far
too busy. He obviously thought other people had time to do his research
for him. He wasn't a newbie either!! It annoyed me a little.


On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 22:36, Gareth Williams wrote:
> I think most people are willing to help newbies, but get annoyed when someone 
> just *expects* them to do it for them, isn't interested in learning, and is 
> just asking because it's the easiest way to solve their problem, and saves 
> them any work themselves. If someone demonstrates they are interested in 
> learning, and have already tried their best to solve their problem on their 
> own, then I think most people are fairly helpful towards them. Wouldn't you 
> say?
> 
> just my 2c
> 
> Gareth.
> 
> 
> On Friday 04 October 2002 21:09, Andy George ZL3ST wrote:
> > ...to the point that a linux user, who tries to understand the system, is
> > put OFF asking, cause he'll get RTFM'd...  Not a good look...  I myself,
> > will always answer to the best of my ability, and question put of me...  If
> > I dont know, I'll admit, I dont know, but if I *do* know... I am more than
> > happy to...
> >
> > ...SHARE...
> >
> > It's the one thing...  and possibly only thing, that annoys me about Linux
> > people...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sascha Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: clug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Linux +
> >
> > > > There are students, like myself, who took this course as a Linux
> > >
> > > beginners entry point, & may be disappointed at the accelerated pace.
> > > Advertised as (computer) 'industry experience expected', this is
> > > currently being misinterpreted as 'Linux experience expected' - a subtle
> > > but critical difference for newbies to best learn. The immersion is
> > > likely to beneficial, so long as iteration of detail is not forgotten.
> > >
> > > > The problem is, the natural instinct of *nix gurus is not to teach!
> > >
> > > I had a quick squiz at the information avonmore provides and I was under
> > > the impression that the course was aimed at someone who has had around 6
> > > months linux experience - so presumably confident in using the system,
> > > but probably needing some serious pointers in system administration.
> > >
> > > I'll have to have a second look, it does sound like they may be
> > > confusing prospective students who may not have that experience. Time to
> > > submit a bug report maybe..
> > >
> > > And you're right, gurus dont tend to teach in the usual sense, they
> > > provide pointers for you to learn yourself. Its the linux way, RTFM and
> > > search the web ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Sascha
> 
> 


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