Hi,

> This always winds me up ... and further confusion is caused by the fact
> that Americans describe the octothorpe # as a "pound" sign, whereas
> Brits call it a "hash mark", and reserve the word "pound" for the
> sterling currency symbol ...

Calling the # a pound symbol is plain wrong, and that winds me up also.
Doing things wrong never stopped anyone.
For a interesting discussion on the octothorpe, see:

 http://www.sigtel.com/tel_tech_octothorpe.html

Derek.
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On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jim Cheetham wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 03:17, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> 
> > Watch it time out connecting to security.debian.org.. (Limited internet
> > access at the moment  remember) twice... three times. And its trying to
> > grab stable, I'm using unstable. Shouldn't  all security updates make it
> > to unstable anyway?
> 
> Nope - the security team only work on packages in stable. They avoid the
> high-churn of testing ans unstable.
> 
> Sometimes the fix is in the unstable version, and the stable fix
> follows. Other times, there is only a vulnerability announce and the fix
> goes into stable, and is sent back to the program authors.
> 
> I've noticed by following BugTraq that Debian are generally the first
> distro to announce fixed packages, usually by at least 24 hours. And I
> get the debian-security-announce messages about 12 hours before they are
> posted to BugTraq too ...
> 
> This is a damn good reason for servers to live exclusively in 'stable',
> even to the extent of refusing recent packages. I do have a wrestle with
> my consience every time I want something that isn't in the stable tree,
> however. Occasionally I pluck it from backports.org, but I know that
> they don't have the quality of response to security issues that Debian
> themselves have ...
> 
> [Some may remember my comments from a few months back about trusting the
> distro maintainers. Since then I've been managing about a dozen Debian
> boxen, and had absolutely no problem keeping up with everything. Except
> kernel upgrades, which were done very very carefully on remote machines.
> I'm confident with the Debian stable worldview.]
> 
> > Software selection method, tasksel, aptitude, dselect or nothing. I
> > choose nothing. (We'll deal with this below, most people should just use
> > tasksel)
> 
> For servers, use nothing at all.
> Then install less, (vim|emacs), sudo, screen, lsof and collect the
> fingerprint of your server ssh keys :-)
> 
> > Login.... dammmit I want british english spelling, but US keyboard
> > layout. How on earth did this happen. My Shift-3 gives me a pound sign!
> 
> This always winds me up ... and further confusion is caused by the fact
> that Americans describe the octothorpe # as a "pound" sign, whereas
> Brits call it a "hash mark", and reserve the word "pound" for the
> sterling currency symbol ...
> 
> -jim
> 
> 
> 

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