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On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:16 am, dep wrote:
> begin  Robert Black Eagle's  quote:
> | And the last issue is why some geeks, hackers and just plain end
> | users are joining an effort to get a large enough lobbying group to
> | keep Congress from trying to control everything about the Internet
> | and our personal computers.  They're still trying to force everyone
> | to buy what they misname "secure" computers (a secure computer is
> | one that allows the government to snoop on every computer user
> | connected to a modem, DSL, or WebTV and would outlaw opensource  --
> | secure for government snoops and no one else).  So far enormous
> | efforts have kept this bizarre notion off the floor or being
> | soundly defeated everytime it's come up.
>
> fwiw, this thing is the brainchild of sen. fritz hollings (d-sc), a
> stooge of the riaa. it hasn't made it out of committee because fritz
> is a.) a democrat and b.) a nut job.
>
> but it is certainly worth being vigilant about.

Fritz is well named, although the expression is "on the".

- -- 
Robert Black Eagle      
I prefer a good cat over a bad person.
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