On Tuesday 25 March 2003 04:52 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Robert E. Raymond wrote:
> > On Tuesday 25 March 2003 03:20 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
> > > On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Robert E. Raymond wrote:
> > > > I've been using only 2.5.xx since mid-October. No data loss or
> > > > anything major- finally have USB again after some issues with ACPI,
> > > > APIC, and VIA's odd implementation.
> > >
> > > I'll admit i've never played with 2.5.x. I've heard/read that it uses
> > > a different kernel configuration mechanism (not xconfig/menuconfig??).
> > > is this the case? if so, could you elaborate on how building a kernel
> > > differes with 2.5.x? maybe a short SxS for folks who are experienced
> > > building 2.4.x kernels?
> >
> > I'll consider that but I can just highlight the differences here:
> >
> > Menuconfig and xconfig are still present in 2.5.x. Menuconfig really
> > hasn't changed much. A few menus, such as the input device section have
> > been changed somewhat, mainly to add more options. Xconfig is *very*
> > different, and I guess I could take a look at it (I've been using
> > menuconfig only for who knows how long). Should be pretty easy for
> > anyone to figure out, tho it does seem to have a qt dependence now.
>
> Qt dependency?? eeek. what kind of crack was Linus smoking when he
> blessed that change? good ole tk/tcl always worked well, especially on
> leaner systems. *sigh*
Ah, not quite true.. From the configs' 'Shared Makefile:
# conf: Used for defconfig, oldconfig and related targets
# mconf: Used for the mconfig target.
# Utilizes the lxdialog package
# qconf: Used for the xconfig target
# Based on QT which needs to be installed to compile it
# gconf: Used for the gconfig target
# Based on GTK which needs to be installed to compile it
So maybe no tcl/tk anymore. Menuconfig's plenty good enough tho.
> > As of maybe around 2.5.6x, make dep is no longer needed, and the
> > instructions say to 'make bzImage' after you get done saving your config.
> > I tend to run 'make modules' anyway, and this builds most of the
> > compiled in stuff anyway, tho make bzImage still needs to be run.
>
> err...'make modules' or 'make dep'?0
I no longer run make dep. The output after menuconfig is:
*** End of Linux kernel configuration.
*** Check the top-level Makefile for additional configuration.
*** Next, you may run 'make bzImage', 'make bzdisk', or 'make install'.
I tend to run make modules out of habit. Entering 'make dep' gives me
***Warning: make dep is unnecessary now.
> > Also you get to replace modutils with module-init-tools. It will keep
> > your old modutils for easy swapping between 2.4.x and 2.5.x kernels.. I
> > think it renames the files to *.old or something. I've not bothered
> > saving them because 2.4.x doesn't like my highpoint 374 for some reason.
>
> so module-init-tools is backwards compatible with 2.4.x kernel builds, or
> does this basically require you to keep both modutils & module-init-tools
> on the system if you wish to build both 2.4.x & 2.5.x kernels?
You have to have both, as modutils appears to be a dependency for
module-init-tools, however module-init-tools has the extra functionality that
2.5.48 kernels and above need.
> > Is that enough, or should I go ahead and write an SxS?
>
> personally, i'd still like a real SxS, if you don't mind, and have the
> time. thanks!
Will do.
Bob Raymond
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