I am sending this to both lists due to the discussion not moving to 'general' where it shouild be by now. Doubtless Doug will step in shortly and wield the stick, or will Meinherr Kurt enbolden himself: befelen ist befelen <grin>.
Being that I am an Australian 'looking in', I think the term SS was a misnomer and an ill advised usage. If we are to equate apples with apples then the Geheimstatzpolitzi : Gestapo would be a better choice of words. However most internal intelligence agencies then and now: again wartime abwer (the spelling is incorrect but the memory is faulty) was a nearer example to MI6, CIA and NSA than any other german organisation. I am sure as Alma says that you would know the difference if you had the Satzi or Gestapo instead of what you do have. Yes we do have a sort of 'Big Brother' system looking over our shoulders these days, but no one, as far as I know, sees friends or relatives disappear overnight, not to be seen ever again. Mind you I am also sure that in both the US and UK, it could be arranged it the right political atmosphere was present. It is up to each and everyone to make sure it does not. With what I see on TV: that which is fed to us is mostly what the estabishment both wants us to see and act on (propaganda). The recent Iraqi incident, the lead up to it and the brave poiticians (sheep) who followed: Australia and the UK are as much to blame for the outcome as is The Bush administration. Again as Alma said, she is scared: that is exactly what the politicians and the terrorists want us to be, so as we can be controlled/cajoled. From the age of 6 to 22 I was either bombed, shot at, ordered to kill or be mindless. I left the UK because I was sick of all that. Now I have no fear of terrorism and have nothing but contempt for politicians and government. The intelligence services have been self serving in the past and I cannot see them changing now, no matter what name they have. Having typed all that 'bilge water' my arthritis is not giving me hell in both shoulders, my fingers are tired, as for my [EMAIL PROTECTED]&^%(*^) @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@^ (noise) -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
