Dear Laurent, I appreciate your opinion and you are right in what you say. I am also aware of the problems with proprietary software and I don't blame anybody.
I'm also very thankful to you and people like who make things work under linux. I have helped and still help a lot to improve (debug, develop) software working under linux but it is obvious that a lot of stuff still is not working It just sucks that I can not do few simple things and that makes me angry. I was very optimistic then back in 1998 about linux but it all turns to be more or less a OS for servers and home experiments, because compared to cemercial OS like the stupid MS and OS X I'm spending more time in such community forums as doing things with my pc - I mean I'm more buzy with debugging than using the OS... Sorry if you or someone else feel insulted by what I said, but also you can not deny the fact that it is not working as it should be, because I have evidence that it is not working... As I decided not to use MS years ago I am considering buying Apple next year. I think this is the best solution for me because recently I'm pretty buzzy with my job and familly and I don't have that much time to debug linux. I would recommend using linux in home or small buziness office solutions as a server but it's still far from stability as a workstation. Some hope brings an experiment like EEEC but the future will show if this is a winner. I appreciate your opinion and the work all of the free software community do - it is very important. I'm really sorry speaking so negatively about linux in general. kind regards --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Laurent Pinchart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Laurent Pinchart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Linux-uvc-devel] Skype not working > To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 1:17 PM > On Thursday 17 July 2008, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: > > > Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:13:29 -0700 (PDT) schrieb > Emanoil > > > > > > Kotsev: > > > > What kind of video card and video driver are > you > > > > > > using. May be it's > > > > > > > related to my similar problem using ATI or > NVidia > > > > > > proprietary drivers. > > > > > > An Nvidia Gforce2 on one system and a ATI card on > the other > > > system. > > > Both with commercial OpenGL enabled drivers. > > > > Yes, I have exactly the same experience with skype > with both ATI and NVidia > > cards and the commercial drivers. Basically what > happens is that after > > starting a video conference it slows down and hangs > after a while, forcing > > me to kill and restart skype. I read that there is a > known problem with ATI > > (a memory leak but don't remember if it was a > Skype problem or ATI) also no > > idea when it will be fixed and at which side. I > don't have access on daily > > basis to the PC with the ATI card, but I have replaced > the Nvidia > > proprietary driver with the free NV one and skype is > working fine. > > Unfortunately this is at the cost of the nice 3D GL > support (googleearth > > and other apps are not working), so I am really > thinking of buying an Apple > > PC and solving all of the issues :-( dam it I need few > things to work and. > > As this is not the only thing that's bugging me in > linux I'm getting more > > disappointed, though I really love it. I've been > using it since 1998 and I > > think it was more simple and more stable at what it > claimed to can do. > > In 1998 you obviously didn't have Skype issues, as > there was no Skype at all. > Just uninstall Skype and you'll get back to your 1998 > stability :-) > > > If someone has a solution and a proof for the oposite > please you're > > welcome. we can move this discussion also to another > place as I don't think > > this is the proper place for it. > > > > > Do you really think this may be a problem? What > kind of > > > problem did you > > > have and how did you solve them? > > > > Just change the line in the xorg.conf file > > > > Driver "nvidia" to > > Driver "nv" > > > > It might be also necessary to change few other things > but for me changing > > this line worked, so now video skyping is fine ;-) > > > > > Video playback works well in both systems. And I > could > > > receive the > > > video from the remote skype. > > > > Yes it is the same behaviour as I had. If I send skype > video it works and > > If I receive it works too, but as soon as both parts > send skype video it > > breaks - SH...T! > > > > Hope this helps but I'm getting a little bit angry > > You can't blame Linux as a whole because proprietary > software vendors ship > broken products. That's just not fair. > > Best regards, > > Laurent Pinchart _______________________________________________ Linux-uvc-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-uvc-devel
