Hi Scott,

Thanks for the suggestions, they'll help.  I'll have to think about
whether I want to try Wine or the virtual machine method you
indicated.  Most of the Windows programs that I don't want to loose
are dictionaries and encyclopedias, which shouldn't be too difficult
to accommodate, but I also want to be able to continue using the music
recorder/converter that comes with MS Plus, as I haven't finished
transferring my album collection to MP3 format yet. 

By the way, you were right to be suspect of my complaint about not
being able to install a 62 bit version of PCLinuxOS on my laptop.  My
memory was faulty.  It was the 62 bit version of Ubuntu that I tried
to install but couldn't.  I was able to boot PCLinuxOS from the disk
but couldn't get anything to work (i.e. Internet, email, etc), and I
don't know enough yet to make toying with it practical.

~Sean

--- In [email protected], Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:39:38PM +0000, kazman1914 wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > So far my experience with Linux has been a misadventure, but I'm
> > stubborn and I'm not giving up.  I have to remind myself that in the
> > early days of Windows I became frustrated often enough enough
then, too.
> 
> Heh, happens to all of us at some point.
> 
> >  
> > My first question: For those who want to eventually throw their
> > Windows programs in the dumpster, is there some way to run Windows
> > programs in Linux?  I have a number of software programs that I really
> > don't want to loose, and their aren't Linux versions available, yet.
> 
> Yes.  There is Wine, and its commercial variety (about $60 and you do
> get a free trial), crossover office.  These allow *some* programs to
> run. 
> However, my usual recommendation to people is to run VirtualBox.  It's
> an emulator that runs at pretty decent speed. It's easy to install and
> you can install Windows on it--it's what's known as a virtual machine.
> There are other products and programs that do the same thing, but I've
> found it to be superior (for my needs) to the also free VMWare server.
> (Also, VMWare server's new 2.0 beta has a number of features that I
> dislike).  You'll probably get other recommendations to use qemu, VMWare
> or KVM, but I prefer VirtualBox.  It's just been bought by Sun.  I have
> no idea whether that will lead to it becoming even better or becoming
> worse, but at present, it suits my needs.
> 
> 
> > 
> > My second question: Is there an easy way to format a hard drive to
> > dual boot without having nightmares?  
> 
> Again yes.  This was simply due to your inexperience and soon you'll
> probably be an old hand at it, believe it or not. 
> The canonical (as in standard, not the company making Ubuntu) :) way is
> to first install Windows.  As you were told, Windows will overwrite the
> boot sector, so if you install Linux first, then install Windows, you'll
> have to reinstall your boot loader. (It's actually usually not necessary
> to reinstall the whole system.)  There's an overview of it in the list
> faq at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/linfaq.html though that
> is a bit dated--it covers RedHat if I remember.  I fear that I no longer
> maintain the faq because it seems no one reads it. <shrug>.  
> 
> The Ubuntu book I have is for the previous
> > version, and the screens have completely changed.  
> 
> Most distros, and I'm sure that Ubuntu does as well, have step by step
> installation instructions somewhere on their website.  It's always good
> to check that, though your decision to use the book was certainly
> reasonable.  
> 
> If you install Windows first, almost all distros will now see it and
> give you an option to include it in your boot menu--they will then
> install their boot program (usually grub) and you should be able to
> continue to boot Windows.
> 
> However, if you install Windows after installing Linux, because Windows
> overwrites the boot sector, you'll no longer be able to boot Linux.
> There are ways around this--as I said, the FAQ mentions some, but it's
> much simpler, if you have the option, to install Windows first.
> 
> > So that's where I am now.  I'm going to reformat again and start from
> > scratch, but I am no pro at formatting hard drives.  I want to
> > partition one for Windows and one for Linux (or is it three for Linux,
> > one for the kernal, one for the swap section, and one for something
> > else?)  
> 
> Install Windows.  Create a partition that will leave you room for Linux.
> Linux really just needs two partitions, / and swap, though you can do
> more--for example, many prefer having a very small /boot partition and
> another separate one for /home.  Most distros will make intelligent
> partitioning suggestions for you, I think Ubuntu is one of them.  
> 
> > 
> > Oh, one more question: I want to dual boot my laptop as well, but I
> > want to install PCLinuxOS on that computer (I'm experimenting with
> > distros).  I downloaded the only version I found and it won't work on
> > my laptop because, even though I just bought the laptop 8 months ago,
> > it's 32 bit (no wonder it was on sale), and the latest version of
> > PCLinuxOS is apparently 64 bit.
> 
> Ok, that doesn't sound quite right.  PCLinuxOS would definitely have a
> 32 bit version.  You probably just overlooked it or misclicked.  (We've
> all been there, done that and gotten the T-shirt.)   If you can't find
> it on their site, post again, and one of us will find it for you.  
> 
> Nothing wrong with buying a 32 bit--amazing as it is, even now, 64 bit
> is way behind the times in a lot of ways--flash still has trouble on 64
> bit machines, etc. etc.  32bit is, by no means, over.  (I just bought a
> 32 bit laptop myself, quite deliberately.  For example, my laptop has a
> wireless card that, at present, is only supported in Linux in 32 bit,
> not 64.)
> 
> > 
> > Any help ya'll can provide would be appreciated.
> 
> Well, hopefully, my answers have helped a bit.  It sounds like you  have
> the right attitude, so I suspect you'll be successful soon--it might not
> be this time (though there's a good chance it will be) and sometimes we
> have to try two or three times. I remember messing up when partitioning,
> years ago, and managing to delete 5 different operating systems in one
> shot. It was depressing.  
> 
> Sooo, to simplify, I'd say start by reinstalling Windows and making sure
> you leave some space for Linux.  (Also, although Linux does need more
> than one partition, it can actually work completely within what are
> called logical partitions, so you don't need 2 extra primary partitions.
> The FAQ has a link to a partitioning guide that might be of some help.)
> 
> >
> 
> -- 
> Scott Robbins
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> Giles: Since Angel lost his soul, he's regained his sense of 
> whimsy.
>




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