Bari Ari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> > Bari Ari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >>For embedded apps. USB is becoming a preferred method for booting since
> >>serial ports are no longer included on the many of the latest chipsets.
> >>
> >
> > Which generally makes using a serial console pretty hard doesn't it.
> > Or in other words what do people use for a console on a board like
> > that. I admit I have heard interesting stories about ring buffers, in
> > ram but that doesn't sound quite approriate either.
> >
> > My memory has it that most serial ports are on superio chips anyway so
> > I don't see their lack of inclusion on a chipset as a problem.
>
>
> For many embedded apps cost and or board space is very much a concern
> and to add the $5 for the superI/O just to get a serial console is out
> of the question.
>
> Intel has been trying to push the serial ports into legacy for the past
> few years, so serial ports have been disappearing from many boxes. A USB
> console may be the simplest approach to development and debug on the up
> coming machines.
I think it is microsoft rather than intel.
But at any rate the specification for removing serial ports
also calls for adding a debug port. Which amounts to a set of pins
connected to the LPC bus where you can plug in a superio chip.
Eric
