Are phat, Win & Demolinux the same thing or work the
same. I used Slackware 2.0 in 95 and it was able to
run from a CD that booted from a floppy with an usdos
partition. Is this the case with the above mentioned
OS,s? And how can I get a copy of the demolinux other
than the ftp site or showing up at the big blowout?
Arvell
972-916-4688
--- Kandy Kay Danner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the latest on that MSN rebate offer in
> California?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [LDD] Hello again
>
>
> > [cc list snipped]
> >
> > Quoting Deepak Saxena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> > > As you can see from the announcement I just sent
> out, I'm trying to
> > > get people to go out and do something to
> coincide with the Win2K
> > > release.
> >
> > As chance would have it, this is two days after
> the first anniversary
> > of Windows Refund Day.
> >
> > > I am also looking at other possible dates
> throughout the year for
> > > massive advocacy events.
> >
> > It seems timely to mention some of the lessons of
> Windows Refund Day.
> > The event was declared unilaterally by Matt Jensen
> of Seattle, who
> > put up a Web site suggesting that people who had
> bought x86 machines
> > with unwanted MS Windows preloads all separately,
> and with a total
> > lack of coordination or publicity, descend upon
> the separate OEMs and
> > demand a refund, on Monday, February 15, 1999.
> The page was immediately
> > Slashdotted, with the predictable horde of people
> declaring this a RAD
> > K00L idea.
> >
> > In setting this up, Jensen was somewhat
> handicapped by lacking Clue One
> > about planning, publicity, organisation, and even
> use of calendars (as
> > I shall explain).
> >
> > Looking on this spectacle from the San Francisco
> Bay Area, a number of
> > us saw considerable potential for disaster.
> Reporters used to toeing
> > the Redmond party line seemed likely to portray
> Jensen's event as a
> > software bootlegging scam on a massive scale,
> giving a black eye to
> > (particularly) the Linux community in so doing:
> All such a reporter
> > had to do was find _one_ kiddie bragging about
> scamming money off
> > Microsoft Corporation while continuing to use his
> Win9x installation
> > thereafter, which the reporter could then sell as
> representative,
> > because large parts of the populace take as given
> that a machine is
> > useless without MS Windows.
> >
> > So, Bay Area Linux publicist Don Marti recruited
> me and Nick Moffitt to
> > run a Bay Area Windows Refund Day information site
> and newsletter, and
> > start planning a local event. Since hundreds of
> computer geeks
> > individually banging on OEM coutertops in
> obscurity was an obvious PR
> > loser, we replaced this notion of Jensen's with
> one of a mass visit to
> > a local Microsoft office.
> >
> > Simultaneously, Don's New York City associate Jim
> Gleason got the LXNY
> > group and Jay Sulzberger involved to plan a local
> event at a Microsoft
> > office there, and Orange County Linux activist
> Deirdre Saoirse
> > volunteered to do likewise in Irvine, California.
> At the same time,
> > Jensen asked someone to take over his Windows
> Refund Day site, since
> > he wasn't prepared for either the traffic or the
> maintenance work, and
> > luckily Mark Bolzern volunteered to take it over
> at his Linux Mall site.
> > Total elapsed time for arranging all this via
> group e-mail discussions:
> > About three days.
> >
> > So, I then checked my calendar, and found that
> Monday the 15th was going
> > to be Presidents' Day, a public holiday in the
> USA. I mentioned this
> > to the other planners, and Matt Jensen reacted as
> if this was calamitous
> > news, saying he was going to change the date (with
> publicity for the
> > event already well under way).
> >
> > I replied that we were _not_ going to change the
> date, not least because
> > Jensen's accidentally picking Presidents' Day
> turned out to be a stroke
> > of good luck: Many businesses would be closed that
> day, such that we
> > stood a good chance of having high turnout at USA
> locations, _but_
> > Microsoft Corporation offices were going to be
> open. Good planning
> > includes checking on such things.
> >
> > Eventually, we attracted equally meticulous
> planners of local Windows
> > Refund Day events in New Zealand, the
> Netherlands/Belgium, France, and
> > Japan, and coordinated with them via private group
> e-mail discussions
> > (_not_ via public mailing lists). We were also
> extremely careful to
> > avoid this being portrayed as a Linux-only event,
> thereby drawing in
> > activists from the FreeBSD, Solaris, NetWare, SCO
> Unix, and BeOS
> > communities.
> >
> > My point, in part, is that considerable damage
> control was necessary,
> > to repair Jensen's poorly-thought-out idea, and
> give the publicity
> > effect some helpful spin control instead of
> leaving that entirely
> > to chance and the sympathies of reporters, a
> minority of whom were
> > outright Microsoft shills. A potential PR
> disaster was turned into an
> > event with a very clear and dramatic message.
> (Hundreds of people
> > attended the march to Microsoft, in Foster City,
> near San Francisco --
> > where we held our press conference and presented
> our written request for
> > reimbursement and justification for it, since, as
> expected, Microsoft
> > reacted to our presence by hiding in the
> building's upper floors and
> > locking those floors out of the elevator system.)
> >
> > My point, with more specific application to the
> present situation,
> > is that any Win2K event had better have a
> well-thought-out, local,
> > physical focus at one or more places. There
> should be a coherent
> > message for the press. There should be contact
> telephone numbers.
> > (If you plan to make news, you need to be
> accessible to reporters.)
> > There should be people in charge, who know how to
> talk to the press.
> > It's best to have publicised Web sites with FAQs
> pitched to the level
> > of the target audience. The event should be
> reportable and packaged
> > as _fun_, colourful news, not just yet another
> boring and confusing
> > nerd non-event. And planning should be among a
> manageably small of
> > people, and in private.
> >
> > Above all, y'all need to think through what
> _specifically_ you're trying
> > to accomplish, where, with whom, and how.
> Logistics, calendars,
> > project planning -- all the tedious, necessary
> stuff. If you aren't
> > prepared to start tackling those tasks starting
> _now_, don't even bother.
> > You could end up being an object lesson of the
> _other_ side's publicity
> > campaign.
> >
> > (Presidents' Day, 2000 is Monday, January 21, in
> case anyone's curious.
> > Microsoft's Win2K launch is scheduled for the
> preceding Thursday.)
> >
> > References:
> > http://LinuxMall.com/misc/refund/
> > http://linuxmafia.com/refund/
>
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Arvell "Kawdog" Hairston972-379-5003http://hoime1.gte.net/arvell/index.htm
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