On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:48:07 +0530
Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:15:26AM +0530, Ravindra Jaju wrote:
> 
> > fork(); fork();
> > 
> > 1] Newbies
> > 2] General
> > 3] Geeks

With all due respect, I'd like to point out that segregation on the
basis of a user's level of knowledge is plain wrong and
counter-productive. It's wrong because:

- a user may not be able to judge which list to join based on a
  self-evaluation, w/o knowing the kind of discussions taking place on
  the list. For me the prospect of trawling through the archives just
  to look at the level of discussions is rather repulsive.

- the user may not get a migration path that a general purpose ML
  offers. Looking back at the difference in the kind of mails that I
  used to send when I joined and now, there's a perceptible difference
  (for the better, I hope :p). I could also observe the same with some
  other regulars who joined after me as total newbies and worked their
  way up to be contributors to meaningful discussions.

It's counter-productive because without many geeks lurking around the
newbie list, people won't get to know about the non-existence of Linux
8.0, they would sulk at Linux because it uses a lot of precious little
RAM while the abundantly available swap stays unused etc. Unless some
geek takes up the cause of educating the newbies - something that the
current list also handles nicely.

> I suggest another idea ... something that we do here at KReSIT. When
> someone sends a mail to the list that doesn't fit the guidelines,
> _everyone_ should mail the poster directly saying why they think the
> mail is not good. I use a pre-written template to do this at KReSIT,
> no need to waste time typing things out again and again. Just make
> sure send the mail to the poster and not the list!

This practice is also followed on comp.lang.c++.moderated (if the
message gets beyond the moderators, that is). I agree that this could
be fine with two exceptions:

- not everyone should remind the OP of the guidelines
- the reminder should be posted on the list and no one should bother
  replying to a poster who's been reminded (or reply privately).

A polite reminder and general ignorance by the members does make a
poster review his/her stance.

> That, coupled with a good verbose rant on the list once in a while
> should be enough, I think.

How about taking turns at it >:)


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