Interesting view of the market.
Are you going to the meeting Saturday?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Michael Sokolov
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> Thanks for all the recommendations.
>
> It was reassuring to hear that older hardware will work fine, but I need
> to clarify something: due to my general dislike of the pee sea (PC)
> architecture, I have absolutely no, zero, zip, nada PC hardware already
> on hand, all our existing hardware is VAX, Sun SPARC or mainframe gear,
> nothing even remotely PC-compatible.  Therefore, whether I go with new
> or used, either way I have to buy that PC or the complete set of parts
> for it somewhere.  (The only exception is that we do already have a
> good Viewsonic monitor with PeeCee video input and PS/2 kbd & mouse
> which we intend to use for this workstation.)
>
> Which brings me to the following: if anyone on this list has any old PC
> hardware which meets the specs that have been discussed and which they
> would be willing to sell to us for a price less than what we would have
> to pay at a store for a new low-end system, let's talk.
>
> Chris Penn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A different strategy could be to build a box for speed.  The functions
> > you mention are pretty basic and can be done on a windows machine, so
> > I say make a box that can do them waaaaay faster.
> > [...]
> > Maybe a decent video card for compiz if
> > she wishes she had a Mac.
>
> Comparison with Weenzone/Mac is completely irrelevant in this case
> because the intended user of the workstation in question is my
> girlfriend who has already been required to give all that stuff up as a
> condition for our relationship.
>
> I have a policy that anyone who receives financial and/or emotional
> support from me (spouse, child, whoever) is required to use only those
> computing technologies which I approve on ethical grounds.  Weendoze and
> MacOS are on the black list of prohibited stuff and so are GNOME, KDE
> and most definitely compiz or whatever the hell that is.  If the
> spouse/child/whoever wishes to use Weendoze, MacOS, GNOME, KDE or compiz
> or whatever, they are more than welcome to do so, but in that case they
> must find some other place to live and some other means of support.
>
> > and a gigbit NIC.
>
> Completely useless given that our office network is strictly 10 Mbps
> (true coaxial Ethernet in the data centre, 10BaseT going out to the
> cubicles).  The outside Internet connection is SDSL @ 384 kbps serving
> as an ARPANET replacement.
>
> > You gonna go 64bit?
>
> I would really prefer not to, just to make my sysadmin job easier.  I
> hate admining modern Linux on pee seas as it is, I don't need the extra
> complication of however-in-hell does that Intel 64-bit stuff work...
>
> > [recommendations regarding software RAID]
>
> Completely unnecessary because the PC in question will never have
> anything of any value stored on it.  If the HDD goes up in smoke, we
> throw it out, stick a new one in there and reinstall Slackware.  All
> valuable information is stored only on the mainframe.
>
> > [OpenOffice stuff]
>
> We won't be using OO either, the company policy requires that all TPS
> reports be written in vi on the UNIX mainframe.
>
> As I've said, we need to put this PeeCee together to do web (Firefox),
> MP3s and video, stuff which absolutely positively cannot be done on the
> mainframe.  Anything that can be done on the mainframe, regardless of
> how un-modern and user-unfriendly it is, is done on the mainframe.
>
> MS
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